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Did this dad overreact??
- Thread starter JacoLesFlea
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+1,000,000 to Jazz Ad and Depth Charge, it can get to a point where the Father wants his daughter to remain his little girl to such an extent that it interferes with her life and makes the Father look a little pathetic.
I certainly would have asked questions before I lashed out like a Neanderthal - a guy standing naked over a girls bed and she isn't screaming or trying to get away sounds a lot like a situation that can be diffused through talking and, if need be, putting the guy in a hold and getting your daughter to call the police. We evolved higher reasoning powers, we should use them.
I certainly would have asked questions before I lashed out like a Neanderthal - a guy standing naked over a girls bed and she isn't screaming or trying to get away sounds a lot like a situation that can be diffused through talking and, if need be, putting the guy in a hold and getting your daughter to call the police. We evolved higher reasoning powers, we should use them.
"Why do fathers have to be such idiots when it comes to their daughters ?
WHat happened to trusting your little girl and respecting her choices ?
Do you think you own her or what ? Are you affraid she won't be worth as much money if she's not a virgin anymore ?
One might consider a 15 yo couple too young for sex and it could be a valid point. These cases solve by discussion, not pipe beating."
I agree with this but really wonder why the daughter didn't say anything while her father is swinging a pipe at her boyfriend.
Violence in this situation will only make for more problems for everyone concerned. What really needs to be looked at is why she didn't tell her father about the existence of the boyfriend.
WHat happened to trusting your little girl and respecting her choices ?
Do you think you own her or what ? Are you affraid she won't be worth as much money if she's not a virgin anymore ?
One might consider a 15 yo couple too young for sex and it could be a valid point. These cases solve by discussion, not pipe beating."
I agree with this but really wonder why the daughter didn't say anything while her father is swinging a pipe at her boyfriend.
Violence in this situation will only make for more problems for everyone concerned. What really needs to be looked at is why she didn't tell her father about the existence of the boyfriend.
A big +1 to Jazz Ad.
Whilst it is difficult for some people to control their emotions in situations like this, it is dealing with it in a civil manner that separates modern day humans from the cave men we evolved from.
The general age for most teenagers to have sex is getting younger by the generation, and it seems that the older generations have a difficult time coming to terms with that, but regardless a beating with a pipe is totally out of order in ANY situation including this one.
I'm not a father, and god willing one day I will be, maybe of a daughter. Likewise I hope that I will be a father who is able to deal with affairs such as this one in a humane manner and not resort to and neanderthal tactics like this fellow.
I'm sorry to all those dads out there who agree with what this guy did, but it was nonsensical and immature. A 45 year old bloke should know better, he probably had a girlfriend at that guys age and I'm sure he wouldn't agree to getting a beating when both parties consented.
Whilst it is difficult for some people to control their emotions in situations like this, it is dealing with it in a civil manner that separates modern day humans from the cave men we evolved from.
The general age for most teenagers to have sex is getting younger by the generation, and it seems that the older generations have a difficult time coming to terms with that, but regardless a beating with a pipe is totally out of order in ANY situation including this one.
I'm not a father, and god willing one day I will be, maybe of a daughter. Likewise I hope that I will be a father who is able to deal with affairs such as this one in a humane manner and not resort to and neanderthal tactics like this fellow.
I'm sorry to all those dads out there who agree with what this guy did, but it was nonsensical and immature. A 45 year old bloke should know better, he probably had a girlfriend at that guys age and I'm sure he wouldn't agree to getting a beating when both parties consented.
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If it had been my daughter, I would have respected her choices and left the dude alone.
I'd have a talk with her afterwards and make sure she's using condoms, though.
Teenagers have sex - so what? There's no reason to go hitting people for normal human behaviour.
I'd have a talk with her afterwards and make sure she's using condoms, though.
Teenagers have sex - so what? There's no reason to go hitting people for normal human behaviour.
If I find a stranger in my house I'm going to do everything in my power to leave him incapacitated/crippled.
You've all been warned!
You've all been warned!
I think the two camps are coming from two directions on this. In this situation, the fact that my daughter was having sex isn't the issue, it's a sidebar.
It's my waking up and finding a naked stranger in my daughter's room in the middle of the night. If I'm not aware she's dating, the possibility that he has been invited into there is pretty foreign. I would react the same if I found him naked in my room, or the living room or fully clothed in the closet or doing jumping jacks in the hallway.
This isn't a "teenage sex" issue for me. My wife's cousin recently approached her father with her current boyfriend to tell him that she is pregant. The father literally tried to kill the guy and I find his reaction completely stupid. Kid will have sex. I expect that.
What I don't expect is people I don't know showing up in my house uninvited in the middle of the night. They don't get any quarter unless they can explain the situation before they lose consciousness or can run faster than me.
Mike
Yeah why didn't she tell her father about this ?
Did she think he'd overreact and beat the guy with a pipe or something ?
Did she think he'd overreact and beat the guy with a pipe or something ?
We could expound on any one of the multiple facets that are not covered in this and arrive at any conclusion if you wish. Given the few facts available in the article, I stand by my reaction.
However you could have just as easily asked what took place that caused him to get the pipe. You assumed that he was predisposed to violence and over reaction. It's just as likely that his daughter screamed when he entered the room, further causing him to think that his daughter was in danger.
Spinning this into the unknown for our own argument is great. Now let's pretend he had a shotgun and gave him two to the chest as the naked guy approached him and his daughter screamed rape in an attempt to look innocent. What say you?
Mike
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Honestly people, come on. You are unaware that your daughter is dating someone, much less having sex with people. You see a naked guy standing over her bed at 4am after you heard a noise. I can think of a dozen reasons flashing through the guy's head why his daughter didn't scream.
If you really were him, would you knock on the open door and say "excuse me, I'm Fred, whats your name? What're you doing? Oh, just banging my daughter? Well then... I guess I'll just have a glass of hot milk and go to sleep."
I don't think many people would do that.
This is also why its probably a bad idea to screw and angry plumbers daughter, since his pipe is made out of metal and hurts much more.
I'd still be pissed at my daughter for being up past her 8pm bed time.
My girlfriend and I were engaged in a activity simply referred to as a number when her father walked in. My girlfriend with her mouthful begged her father not to turn on the light. He did. I remember at that exact moment I was nothing more than a pair of eye peering over his daughters bare butt. At which point he promptly turned them off again and informed us that we had a minute to get dressed before be grabs his shotgun. We were downstairs at 3 in morning while her father was asking me how I plan to take care of his daughter if she gets pregnant. Safe sex. The whole gambit. The whole conversation took place with a shotgun on his lap. Good thing my bowels were empty.
I'm quite possibly the least violent person you will ever meet, anywhere.
However, I'm right there with mike_v_s on this one. If I walk into my step-daughter's room after hearing a noise in the middle of the night and am confronted with a naked male...let's just say the kid in Florida is lucky, because he left under his own power. He wouldn't have left my house in the same state.
It's got absolutely NOTHING to do with teenagers having sex, I know damn well they either do or will. I was one once too.
The real issue here is a home invasion and potential threat to your child (i.e. rape).
I'm not saying that I would CONDONE such activity in my home, but if my kid comes to me and says "Daddy G (that's what they call me
), look, I really care for (insert name here - gender not an issue either!), and we are going to be intimate (or use whatever euphamism)", my response would not be a knee-jerk "THE HELL YOU ARE!!!". It would be a long discussion, bringing in several elements such as the physical and emotional repercussions of the decision, the dangers, the potential outcomes (teen pregnancy is an ugly experience, I witnessed it up close and personal when my sister got preggers at the age of 16, turned out OK, but man...what a mess), and options to minimize the negative outcomes. I know my kids are smart, and will make the right decision for themselves in this situation, because I've helped to raise them to do so, and their mother and "real" dad has as well.
The jack@$$ in the story here, and his little girlfriend, BOTH deserve a buttwhuppin'. The boy, physically (again, for being a potential and unknown threat to my family), the girl not physically, but when I got done with her, she'd probably wish it had been physical.
If the girl in the story hadn't been sneaking around behind daddy's back, this wouldn't have happened. If anyone in the whole story is culpable for damages, it's the daughter, not the dad (which of course brings it back around to dad & mom, as she is a minor, and the parent is responsible for their actions...the real issue here may be poor parenting, but that is not directly the topic).
However, I'm right there with mike_v_s on this one. If I walk into my step-daughter's room after hearing a noise in the middle of the night and am confronted with a naked male...let's just say the kid in Florida is lucky, because he left under his own power. He wouldn't have left my house in the same state.
It's got absolutely NOTHING to do with teenagers having sex, I know damn well they either do or will. I was one once too.
The real issue here is a home invasion and potential threat to your child (i.e. rape).
I'm not saying that I would CONDONE such activity in my home, but if my kid comes to me and says "Daddy G (that's what they call me
), look, I really care for (insert name here - gender not an issue either!), and we are going to be intimate (or use whatever euphamism)", my response would not be a knee-jerk "THE HELL YOU ARE!!!". It would be a long discussion, bringing in several elements such as the physical and emotional repercussions of the decision, the dangers, the potential outcomes (teen pregnancy is an ugly experience, I witnessed it up close and personal when my sister got preggers at the age of 16, turned out OK, but man...what a mess), and options to minimize the negative outcomes. I know my kids are smart, and will make the right decision for themselves in this situation, because I've helped to raise them to do so, and their mother and "real" dad has as well.The jack@$$ in the story here, and his little girlfriend, BOTH deserve a buttwhuppin'. The boy, physically (again, for being a potential and unknown threat to my family), the girl not physically, but when I got done with her, she'd probably wish it had been physical.
If the girl in the story hadn't been sneaking around behind daddy's back, this wouldn't have happened. If anyone in the whole story is culpable for damages, it's the daughter, not the dad (which of course brings it back around to dad & mom, as she is a minor, and the parent is responsible for their actions...the real issue here may be poor parenting, but that is not directly the topic).
Saved by a number.
Betcha anything you like that had daddy had a clean shot at you, the outcome would have been different...
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...somewhat different situation, here, daughter is engaged in what is quite apparantly a consensual act, however surprising it might have been to dad.
My reaction would have been similar to his in this case, with the addendum of letting daughter get an earful of my opinion of her doing said activities behind my back yet under my roof. And yes, in front of boyfriend.
I'm quite possibly the least violent person you will ever meet, anywhere.
However, I'm right there with mike_v_s on this one. If I walk into my step-daughter's room after hearing a noise in the middle of the night and am confronted with a naked male...let's just say the kid in Florida is lucky, because he left under his own power. He wouldn't have left my house in the same state.
It's got absolutely NOTHING to do with teenagers having sex, I know damn well they either do or will. I was one once too.
The real issue here is a home invasion and potential threat to your child (i.e. rape).
I'm not saying that I would CONDONE such activity in my home, but if my kid comes to me and says "Daddy G (that's what they call me
The jack@$$ in the story here, and his little girlfriend, BOTH deserve a buttwhuppin'. The boy, physically (again, for being a potential and unknown threat to my family), the girl not physically, but when I got done with her, she'd probably wish it had been physical.
If the girl in the story hadn't been sneaking around behind daddy's back, this wouldn't have happened. If anyone in the whole story is culpable for damages, it's the daughter, not the dad (which of course brings it back around to dad & mom, as she is a minor, and the parent is responsible for their actions...the real issue here may be poor parenting, but that is not directly the topic).
Can I change my answer to what he said.
First thing I thought of, was her getting scared, and something either gaseous or squishy coming out her butt hole.
...and given the position it would most certainly not be a fun experience for either party...
Ok this is a meessed up story .. the father sees a naked guy in his duaghters room .. then i don't care what the kids age is its open game ... you don't know whats going on .. could be some sicko trying to rape his daughter .. plus thats is someone in his house he had no clue about .... I have a daughter and i would of done the same thing..
ok first of all.. this girl obviously didn't tell her Dad about her boyfriend for a reason.. and it is not because he is a rational minded, supportive father..
secondly.. I severely doubt it is that tough to figure out if your daughter is being raped, or just sneaking guys in through the window. I never raped anybody but if I did I am pretty sure if I was going to, I would not strip down butt naked.. just whipping it out through the zipper would be fine..
secondly.. I severely doubt it is that tough to figure out if your daughter is being raped, or just sneaking guys in through the window. I never raped anybody but if I did I am pretty sure if I was going to, I would not strip down butt naked.. just whipping it out through the zipper would be fine..
