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#24,461
Proton Lenny said:
Nice! I can also bring a LOT of effects pedals to noodle with as hors d'oeuvres (kind of my thing....)
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Cool. I’m an admitted effects novice, but I have been thinking about putting together a small board soon. Maybe I just need a gentle nudge in the right direction ;)

I have a couple MAS cabs and a new-to-me Positive Grid Bias Amp Head that might be fun for others to check out.
 
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spiritbass said:
Now that sounds intriguing...:cool:
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Yeah, I thought so too. I want to spend more time with it before commenting much, but first impressions are very favorable! I’ve just scratched the surface, but convincing tube amp models that be changed with a swipe of the finger are great fun so far. With its ICE based power amp that’ll drive cabs from 4 to 16 ohms, it’s light and very versatile. I still need to try it with electric guitar. The clips I’ve heard online are pretty impressive.
 
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I've been thinking of pairing my Z3 with the Line 6 Helix Floor...

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I'm still in the "Fractal is better than Line6" camp, but that's for me annd my uses, and to my ear. Whatever works for you :). I'm mostly just happy to see more folks embracing modeling... bass players have been much, much slower on the take up than guitarists for some reason.
 
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Selta said:
I'm still in the "Fractal is better than Line6" camp, but that's for me annd my uses, and to my ear. Whatever works for you :). I'm mostly just happy to see more folks embracing modeling... bass players have been much, much slower on the take up than guitarists for some reason.
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IMO YMMV, I firmly believe this is because of the "gap" when playing live vs practicing/rehearsing.
Guitarists could effectively pick a small FRFR combo, or go straight to FOH with wedges and 90% of the time get either a very usable or very awesome experience.
Bass...not so much. Bit more difficult.

I was a Fractal user too, and I think they've come leaps and bounds since I had my AxeFXII. I'm super stoked with my HX Stomp though, incredible piece of kit for the size of it.
 
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Selta said:
I'm still in the "Fractal is better than Line6" camp, but that's for me annd my uses, and to my ear. Whatever works for you :). I'm mostly just happy to see more folks embracing modeling... bass players have been much, much slower on the take up than guitarists for some reason.
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I have watched these units come into use and really, it seems that at first (and still today to a certain extent) they were all about guitarists with an "Oh BTW, here's a few sounds for you bass players". The fact is that whether Fractal or Line 6, us bass players will never use most of what's built into these units. That's a lot of money being spent on features we don't need. For years I used a Boss GT-6B and it worked well for me even though I know the effects were only average in some cases. This technology has come a long way and I'm hoping to take advantage of it.
 
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Selta said:
I'm still in the "Fractal is better than Line6" camp, but that's for me annd my uses, and to my ear. Whatever works for you :). I'm mostly just happy to see more folks embracing modeling... bass players have been much, much slower on the take up than guitarists for some reason.
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I have resisting the modeling trend (more like a wave at this point). Essentially because I've always preferred analog bass effect pedals to digital. (And, yes, I dig tube preamps too.)
But I'm trying to keep an open mind. And, yeah, everything seems to be guitar-centric. High frequencies model better than low? Because there are more guitar players in the world than bass players, thus bigger market? I suspect its the latter.
 
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Bassheart365 said:
I have resisting the modeling trend (more like a wave at this point). Essentially because I've always preferred analog bass effect pedals to digital. (And, yes, I dig tube preamps too.)
But I'm trying to keep an open mind. And, yeah, everything seems to be guitar-centric. High frequencies model better than low? Because there are more guitar players in the world than bass players, thus bigger market? I suspect its the latter.
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Because musicians are still stuck on the absurd notion that basses should be 4 stringed and plugged directly into an amp or DI box.
 
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been_effected said:
IMO YMMV, I firmly believe this is because of the "gap" when playing live vs practicing/rehearsing.
Guitarists could effectively pick a small FRFR combo, or go straight to FOH with wedges and 90% of the time get either a very usable or very awesome experience.
Bass...not so much. Bit more difficult.

I was a Fractal user too, and I think they've come leaps and bounds since I had my AxeFXII. I'm super stoked with my HX Stomp though, incredible piece of kit for the size of it.
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Is there a bass synth in the HX Stomp?
 
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Smallmouth_Bass said:
Is there a bass synth in the HX Stomp?
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One very key thing with modelers is to stop thinking about instrument-centric ideas and instrument-specific "amps", "cabs" or "fx". Basically, throw everything you think you know about all of the above away, and start over. The general idea in modeling is use whatever in the box will get you what you're going after, regardless of what name or "type" of component it would be in the real world. It's a difficult thing for some folks to grasp -- they feel that if XYZ thing isn't present, then it won't make XYZ sound, when the truth is much more intricate than that.
 
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Smallmouth_Bass said:
I am intrigued by its size. I don't use amp modelling, but I do use effects sparingly. I don't like having to lug around a big board for a few different effects.

The only amp model that I like that I know of is the SansAmp.
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The fun really starts to happen when you realize that amps and cabs can be used as effects to achieve certain goals ;)
 
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Smallmouth_Bass said:
I am intrigued by its size. I don't use amp modelling, but I do use effects sparingly. I don't like having to lug around a big board for a few different effects.

The only amp model that I like that I know of is the SansAmp.
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That is why I got HX Effects. I didn't feel the need to amp model (and HX Stomp wasn't an option at the time), but I like the amount of accessible switches on it more than the Stomp). Still working into what I want. I like my Markbass Chorus better than the defaults on the HX Effects, but I think if I sit and mess with it, I'll get it. I have two Markbass Chorus pedals and one of them just fried, so I need to get moved over soon before the other one died. Last week in rehearsal I tried some of the chorus effects and when it came to actually playing the song I ended up just going clean. Some days that is all you need.
 
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johnsonabq said:
Ah... Now we have hit on good question. Why don't we consider the specifically voiced amplifier and speaker cabinets we use as effects? When I truth, they are just that.
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Yup. When you're working in a purely modeled world, treat everything as just a mechanism to alter the signal. The lines between an "amp" versus an "effect" are very blurred. It takes awhile to get there, but once you do, a whole new world of possibilities open up!
 

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