Dingwall Owners Club

[Applejacks]

Per Don Knuth. Beware of bugs in the above diagram. I have only proved it correct, not tried it. (Although I believe someone did a few days ago)

Thanks Packrat. How do I tell which contacts I use on the rotary? LOL

 

[Applejacks]

Does the 3X Sklar also have an unusual ordering the way a 2x does?

No it doesn’t. It’s the same as the standard 3X switch wiring. The DBird switch is an option too but mine doesn’t have it.

 

[packrat]

Huh. That’s surprising. I recall someone mentioning Lee being super impressed with the all three pickups option on a 3x dingwall.

 

[packrat]

Thanks Packrat. How do I tell which contacts I use on the rotary? LOL

you can stare at the switch mechanism which will be pretty obvious (two banks of wiper over 6 contacts per level) or check it with a multimeter. The data sheet will likely be of some use if it’s easily available.

 

[Applejacks]

Huh. That’s surprising. I recall someone mentioning Lee being super impressed with the all three pickups option on a 3x dingwall.

I read that somewhere as well and was surprised to find that it has a standard 3X. Checked the site and my setup is correct

 

[DiabolusInMusic]

I guess they look about the same, but frankly it's so tiny that I would not trust my (aging) eyes on this.
Is there an easy way to measure it ?
Maybe plastigauge or something ?



Did that already, and yes the buzz disappears.



Yeah well the nut is new because the bass is new, but sure I could try and avoid any cyanoacrylate dropping on my wenge fingerboard ..

As @TheEmptyCell pointed out, just put some tape down and your board will be fine. Superglue and baking soda isn't a simple fix if you don't know how to cut a nut slot though. You would have a better shot at winning the lottery than getting the patch to be perfect.

Another option (less susceptible to string wear and also less danger from CA drips) is to remove the nut and build up a couple thin layers of superglue on the underside of the E/A end.

Basically a permanent, paper-thin shim.

I’d agree that it stinks to need this on a new bass, but this issue probably didn’t show up until you got the bass and set it up to your liking; the issue probably didn’t present itself with more relief in the neck and the bridge saddles set higher.

I also like a really easy-playing bass, so I’ve run into the same several times - but generally coming from the other side (the nut needed to be filed lower)

I wouldn't suggest building the nut up from the bottom because it would throw off the rest of the geometry. You are much better to drop some on top and cut again.

That all being said, if this is a black nut, I wouldn't suggest the superglue fix. Maybe if you dyed the baking soda but I have never experimented with that.

 

[Salciniclas]

Per Don Knuth. Beware of bugs in the above diagram. I have only proved it correct, not tried it. (Although I believe someone did a few days ago)

yeah I did and it works 100%. I used @packrats shematic and a picture I found where I ordered the switch. Was pretty straight forward and the job was done in about an hour. Only "proplem" was like I said, I had to drill the Potihole 0,5mm bigger but that's just fine.
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[The_Owl]

Time to record some music tomorrow, or at the very least dial in the tone to use. Hopefully, all goes well.

 

[ThisYouCanTrust]

Plastigauge is an interesting idea. We've not tried it. The tolerance over the 1st fret when fretted at the 2nd is .005" to .008". Just to make sure. When you re-strung the bass, did you install Dingwall strings?

Yeah no, I was throwing plastigauge out there like that but it needs more contact surface to work than a string against a fret can provide.

Anyway, I asked my colleagues from the mechanical dept and they lent me a feeler gauge.
I measured .006" at fret 1 when fretting on 3, and .005" at fret 2 when fretting 1 and 4.

I used DW SS strings, yes, 127 98 75 58 45 IIRC.
I suppose the bass came with DW nickels on but not sure.

That all being said, if this is a black nut, I wouldn't suggest the superglue fix. Maybe if you dyed the baking soda but I have never experimented with that.

Yup, I thought about that yesterday evening. It would look like shlt.

 

[Wyvern]

There is a kit I have from "monster" that is super glue and black powder.
There is also permatex black plastic weld that looks interesting, but not sure how it would react.

 

[Sheldon D.]

Yeah no, I was throwing plastigauge out there like that but it needs more contact surface to work than a string against a fret can provide.

Anyway, I asked my colleagues from the mechanical dept and they lent me a feeler gauge.
I measured .006" at fret 1 when fretting on 3, and .005" at fret 2 when fretting 1 and 4.

I used DW SS strings, yes, 127 98 75 58 45 IIRC.
I suppose the bass came with DW nickels on but not sure.



Yup, I thought about that yesterday evening. It would look like shlt.

Thanks for checking. Your nut is not too low. Raising it will only mess up your intonation in the lower frets. It sounds like the SS strings that are buzzing are just small enough to rattle in the nut slots. I can't say for sure but it could be that winding the string down further on the tuner posts is causing the string to rest on the back of the slot. The chances of this are slim but worth testing by raising the string on the post. 7 degrees of downward angle is all you need.

If this doesn't help then the slots are slightly too large for the SS strings. The easiest fix would be to install Nickels. To make the SS strings work in the slots, a smaller slot can be cut at the bottom of each of the problem slots. These smaller slots are extremely shallow. Maybe .002" deep using a file that is 50% - 75% the diameter of the string.

 

[pbass6811]

My dealer hit me up and asked about paint, I think/hope that means the fine folks at Dingwall have started a couple of my basses!!

We've got a semi-high profile gig next month and some of my basses are supposed to be done around that time. I've got every digit crossed, hoping that they show up by then...

I don't wanna rush perfection, but if you could help a brotha' out, @Sheldon D. ...

 

[AB Nate]

Some sweet afterburner action here:

as much as I really don’t like Adele....
This is a really great video and this rendition is far better then the original.
Is this you?

either way thanks for sharing it.

that said......c’mon now. Hardly enough AB action shots!!!

 

[B.C.]

as much as I really don’t like Adele....
This is a really great video and this rendition is far better then the original.
Is this you?

either way thanks for sharing it.

that said......c’mon now. Hardly enough AB action shots!!!

It is a really good reharm for sure! Not me, though that would be awesome! Adam Neely is a YouTube personality and jazz educator and a very tasty player.

At this point, I'm still very much a club lurker as I don't own a dingwall yet! Still looking for a good active abz or super J after falling in love with them at the Chicago music exchange.

 

[AB Nate]

It is a really good reharm for sure! Not me, though that would be awesome! Adam Neely is a YouTube personality and jazz educator and a very tasty player.

At this point, I'm still very much a club lurker as I don't own a dingwall yet! Still looking for a good active abz or super J after falling in love with them at the Chicago music exchange.

I see. Honestly, I did miss a few moments of the vid. I’m a crappy multitasker.
Good luck on your search. Something will come up for sure. Are you looking for a 4,5,6?

 

[B.C.]

I see. Honestly, I did miss a few moments of the vid. I’m a crappy multitasker.
Good luck on your search. Something will come up for sure. Are you looking for a 4,5,6?

Haha no worries, me too! Thank you! I'm looking specifically for active 5s. I was just absolutely blown away by the instrument I played, but in an attempt to avoid an impulse buy, I held off. Should of jumped on it then, but ah well!

 

[AB Nate]

Haha no worries, me too! Thank you! I'm looking specifically for active 5s. I was just absolutely blown away by the instrument I played, but in an attempt to avoid an impulse buy, I held off. Should of jumped on it then, but ah well!

Do you have a preamp preference, color and budget point?

 

[Selta]

This one's for sale on the dingwall facebook group:
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[ThisYouCanTrust]

Thanks for checking. Your nut is not too low. Raising it will only mess up your intonation in the lower frets. It sounds like the SS strings that are buzzing are just small enough to rattle in the nut slots. I can't say for sure but it could be that winding the string down further on the tuner posts is causing the string to rest on the back of the slot. The chances of this are slim but worth testing by raising the string on the post. 7 degrees of downward angle is all you need.

If this doesn't help then the slots are slightly too large for the SS strings. The easiest fix would be to install Nickels. To make the SS strings work in the slots, a smaller slot can be cut at the bottom of each of the problem slots. These smaller slots are extremely shallow. Maybe .002" deep using a file that is 50% - 75% the diameter of the string.

Well, thank you for assisting me !
I'm not sure what you mean by rest on the back of the slot (english is not my mother tongue) but I can sure try raising the string on the post.

This raises an important question by the way, namely how should we restring.
When the bass arrived it had like one single wrap of string around each tuner post, which is the fewest I had ever seen.
But then the strings held good and didn't buzz so I guess it was enough ?
I must also say that the slot into the tuner post is the deepest I have seen, it doesn't go as low on my other basses but I guess that's a desirable feature on this bass ?
In any case on these tuner posts I would say I can get maybe maximum 3 wraps around the post, on other basses I can get 6 or more .. but then you seem to imply that less can be better than more ?

In any case I just ordered 2 sets of DW nickels to test that possibility.
It would be stupid it that was the only solution, but I don't feel too comfortable trying to cut a secondary slot for the moment.
If in the end it turns out that's the thing to do then I will look further into it.

 

[Peter Lufrano]

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Anybody tried one of these? I am wondering if they are a direct replacement for the stock Super J bridges?