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Dingwall Owners Club

#37,067
howardf said:
I've wanted a pair of their 18 driver IEMs forever, but they're more than a new Combustion. I have some Campfire Andromedas that weren't exactly cheap, and sound amazing, but are a little heavy in the ear.
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There's definitely no compelling reason to go with more than 4 drivers for live use. Even 2 is just fine for it, in my experience (~7 years using IEMs for live performance). For pleasure listening, I've found that once you get above 8, the "improvements" become less and less noticeable.
 
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Selta said:
There's definitely no compelling reason to go with more than 4 drivers for live use. Even 2 is just fine for it, in my experience (~7 years using IEMs for live performance). For pleasure listening, I've found that once you get above 8, the "improvements" become less and less noticeable.
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This is probably where I’d end up

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but. The next step up are N8s sooooo

Get it N.....8s. N8s. Nates...... ah. Nvrmnd. :bag:
 
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AB Nate said:
This is probably where I’d end up

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but. The next step up are N8s sooooo

Get it N.....8s. N8s. Nates...... ah. Nvrmnd. :bag:
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If I were buying right now, I'd probably go A4t. My current ones are Qi's, which are pretty much the same thing just like, 2 generations older now. Still very comfortable and holding up very well though, so no need or want to change it up.
 
#37,070
Hey, fellas. What's up? Been on a hiatus from the internet for a while and I've enjoyed it! Can't really say that I've practiced more(although my shoulder feels better, and old wrist injury has suddenly decided to make an appearance...:rage:), but we've started gigging again, although that could change within the next few days. Just wanted to drop in and say hey, and see how everyone was getting along...:thumbsup:

ThisYouCanTrust said:
That's the thing : I need high isolation but ideally still would prefer not to need a full mix.
Maybe that's just not possible, I realize it is at least partly contradictory.
I'll sleep over it I guess :)
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Like a few others, I'm using IEMs for gigging purposes. My setup looks like this:

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The Sennheiser is my bass wireless, the Shure is my IEMs, and the EV is my vocal mic. Since the Shure has multiple inputs, I run a splitter from my EV output, one side goes to FOH, and the other side goes directly to my IEMs, so I get a solid vocal signal. The other input gets my standard monitor feed(Little kick, little snare, little lead vocals). I could run a splitter from my Sennheiser bass or from my amp's DI straight into my ears, but I don't need that. Another option, which I've done with some success, is to run a line mixer of some kind. I was using a Denon DN-312X, but I don't have space for it anymore. I could run a line from my bass, a line from my mic, and my usual monitor mix, and just mix them to my taste. Shure makes a half-rack 4-ch mixer that I might look into at some point, but I really don't need that. Having my vocal mic directly feeding my ears gives me enough ambience to keep me connected.

I was using the original custom 64 Audio A4's, but something is wrong with them. I need to get a new cord and see if that solves the problem. I needed a quick replacement, so I just got some SE215's, which I hated, so I sprung for some Westone AM Pro 20's, which weren't bad, until one side actually broke off. So, again, I needed something quick, and Sweetwater was blowing out the Westone UM Pro30's, so that's what I'm using now, until I can either get my current A4's up and running or invest in some newer one's.

Hope whatever you decide to do works for ya'...;):thumbsup:
 
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#37,072
deadline_ said:
Did Mr. Dingwall mention on one of his Q&A sessions, that more import basses are in the works?
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He certainly implied that, he said they are working on new things but not how far along those are.
I wouldn’t expect to see anything that soon. For example, the D-Roc 5 standards haven’t hit the stores yet and that design has been around for a while.
 
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BurningSkies said:
I'm using the AM-30 which lets more ambient sound in than the others, but still without being able to hear the whole band clearly, it probably wouldn't be pleasant as far as I'm concerned. If you're used to hearing your mix through pretty standard foam ear-plugs you might be ok with it though.
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I have a set of the AM-30's, as well, and I like the fact that when I can hear some of the ambient stage sound, I don't need EVERYTHING in my in-ears mix. I mostly run just vocals, bass (though I do run a live rig, at lower volumes, as my drummer prefers it), and a little bit of the instruments from the far side of the stage.

I later picked up a set of Sensaphonics active ambient in-ears, which are beyond awesome (full isolation, allows you to adjust the volume of the ambient mix and has a "set break" mode, which is full volume ambient), though they are quite expensive. The Westone's are a much better bang for the buck.
 
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Re: IEM setups... I would only suggest using them if you have your own soundman and sound system with you every gig. Trying to get your 'average Joe' FOH guy to run an individual monitor mix for 3-5 or more band members for a 45-50 minute set (shared with 2-4 other bands) usually never works. I have played though with numerous acts where we had our own sound/FOH and it was amazing. I've always used Shure wireless systems, with Westone molded IEMs.

At church in the past I've used Avioms with IEMs and that was great also. My favorite was a small pedalboard into an Avalon U5 as DI. Overkill for sure, but, that unit is/was amazing.
 
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ThisYouCanTrust said:
That's the thing : I need high isolation but ideally still would prefer not to need a full mix.
Maybe that's just not possible, I realize it is at least partly contradictory.
I'll sleep over it I guess :)
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#37,077
tombowlus said:
I have a set of the AM-30's, as well, and I like the fact that when I can hear some of the ambient stage sound, I don't need EVERYTHING in my in-ears mix. I mostly run just vocals, bass (though I do run a live rig, at lower volumes, as my drummer prefers it), and a little bit of the instruments from the far side of the stage.

I later picked up a set of Sensaphonics active ambient in-ears, which are beyond awesome (full isolation, allows you to adjust the volume of the ambient mix and has a "set break" mode, which is full volume ambient), though they are quite expensive. The Westone's are a much better bang for the buck.
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Had these been on my radar when I bought the AM-30's, I would have gone for it. That looks like a great system. I have set up condensers for audience sound and it's never quite worked. Looks like they've sort of bolstered their tech with this:

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I've always been one who gets 'taken out of the music' if I can't hear the room and the audience feedback.
 
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BurningSkies said:
Had these been on my radar when I bought the AM-30's, I would have gone for it. That looks like a great system. I have set up condensers for audience sound and it's never quite worked. Looks like they've sort of bolstered their tech with this:

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I've always been one who gets 'taken out of the music' if I can't hear the room and the audience feedback.
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Yep, that's the system I mentioned in my second post. I have not tried that one, but I am extremely pleased with my current Sensaphonic system. Total game-changer, and it makes dialing in the IEM mix so much easier. I typically run our sound using a Mackie DL1608, and each player gets their own mix. Only three of the five of us are running IEMs/phones, so the other two get monitors. My lead singer has a set of non-ambient Shure IEMs, and hers is the hardest mix to dial in, by far.
 
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tombowlus said:
Yep, that's the system I mentioned in my second post. I have not tried that one, but I am extremely pleased with my current Sensaphonic system. Total game-changer, and it makes dialing in the IEM mix so much easier. I typically run our sound using a Mackie DL1608, and each player gets their own mix. Only three of the five of us are running IEMs/phones, so the other two get monitors. My lead singer has a set of non-ambient Shure IEMs, and hers is the hardest mix to dial in, by far.
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We moved to using a click for the whole band from just our drummer using it. That tightened everyone up, but also meant everyone needed to be IEM compliant. Luckily everyone has control over their own mix...but even so, we do have live guitar, bass & drums on stage. I tended to use a bit of kick & hat and leave the toms out, with a 135w Twin on stage next to my rig, I also put in very little guitar amp. The biggest problem by far was getting the audience sound in correctly, which having condensers on each IEM would be a huge improvement from having a stage mic pointed at the house.
 
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