Dingwall Owners Club

[shade_1313]

Ibanez BTB multiscales…sheesh

Edit: Just noticed the scale lengths. Seems like an odd choice... basically start at 37" and reduce 0.5" per string. So you still have a 35" G or 34.5" C string... which seems not great.

The same thing I first commented on. Now, I have a 35” scale six-string, and haven’t had any problems with the feel or sound on it, but I can understand how others may not like that increased tension. I’m curious what strings these ship with, too.

As I said in that thread, I’ll likely try the six out, it might make a good bass for some things. I don’t expect it to supplant my NG3 in any way, but different sounds and setups are always fun to use.

 

[NaH]

Ibanez BTB multiscales…sheesh

These seem cool, overall. That price... wow. I know Dingwall won't ever be able to knock $1k off their prices, but, that's going to put a TONNNN of pressure downward.

Overall, from the photos, they look pretty OK designed. The fretboard/nut area, in typical Ibanez, is ***. The pickups are a total unknown - kinda interested to hear more about them. Mostly it looks like a MS neck slapped on a slightly tweaked BTB. Low effort, but, pretty decent execution.

Edit: Just noticed the scale lengths. Seems like an odd choice... basically start at 37" and reduce 0.5" per string. So you still have a 35" G or 34.5" C string... which seems not great.

I agree - the fretboard/nut to the headstock looks dumb. I personally see no reason to bother. I'll take an original, not a copy cat, thanks.

 

[AB Nate]

I’ll definitely give it a go at the music store when I see it but I don’t imagine it’ll be worth putting any money into.

I’m curious about the pick ups and how it feels for sure. It looks pretty good, Other then at the nut IMO. I think the BTB body and headstock do the MS vibe well.

being fortunate to have the basses I have, when a perfectly good instrument comes along like this might be, they always seem “meh” and “why would I play this vs a dingwall?”

The EHB I had was a fantastic instrument on its own… not on the same field though. An old AB like the beauties posted today win out over this hands down.

 

[AB Nate]

The same thing I first commented on. Now, I have a 35” scale six-string, and haven’t had any problems with the feel or sound on it, but I can understand how others may not like that increased tension. I’m curious what strings these ship with, too.

As I said in that thread, I’ll likely try the six out, it might make a good bass for some things. I don’t expect it to supplant my NG3 in any way, but different sounds and setups are always fun to use.

Id guess Daddarios.

 

[Ryno1330]

Id guess Daddarios.

Yeah they say NYXLs. Didn't know they made long scale - I love them on my regular scale basses. Will have to see how they compare to my Dingwall strings soon.

 

[TTA]

Sorry to increase the budget for your new bass but I doubt you will ever regret getting the chambered body.

I recently ordered a 5 string Fretless from John Fox… thinking it will come this Spring.

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interesting as i got a spring spot in summer 2021. He said the rest were more july/aug. Unless someone backed out.

 

[TTA]

Ibanez BTB multiscales…sheesh

These seem cool, overall. That price... wow. I know Dingwall won't ever be able to knock $1k off their prices, but, that's going to put a TONNNN of pressure downward.

Overall, from the photos, they look pretty OK designed. The fretboard/nut area, in typical Ibanez, is ***. The pickups are a total unknown - kinda interested to hear more about them. Mostly it looks like a MS neck slapped on a slightly tweaked BTB. Low effort, but, pretty decent execution.

Edit: Just noticed the scale lengths. Seems like an odd choice... basically start at 37" and reduce 0.5" per string. So you still have a 35" G or 34.5" C string... which seems not great.

The ibanez afr caught my eye and i was about to buy a grey one… then I discovered dingwall and it was game over.

I got the dingwall cause i wanted a five… and i was sold on the concept of the 37 inch scale. But, to me it is also very much a looks thing. I like nice stuff… but looks has true vito power. The dingwalls are a modern bass design, but they also share a bit of a timeless look to them. They fit in well with fender shaped objects. Not saying they are a fso (talking ab and z), but imho they have a timeless look.

the ibanez linked above i am sure is a great bass… but i cant get into the shape if it. I am weird that way. If i dont like the look, it is a 100% no go.

 

[TTA]

Ibanez BTB multiscales…sheesh

These seem cool, overall. That price... wow. I know Dingwall won't ever be able to knock $1k off their prices, but, that's going to put a TONNNN of pressure downward.

Overall, from the photos, they look pretty OK designed. The fretboard/nut area, in typical Ibanez, is ***. The pickups are a total unknown - kinda interested to hear more about them. Mostly it looks like a MS neck slapped on a slightly tweaked BTB. Low effort, but, pretty decent execution.

Edit: Just noticed the scale lengths. Seems like an odd choice... basically start at 37" and reduce 0.5" per string. So you still have a 35" G or 34.5" C string... which seems not great.

not a fan of the body at all. Hard pass. See my other post.

but the scale length i think is a deliberate design choice. Longer scale for the smaller strings means less fanning required on the fretboard. Compare a dingwall and the ibanez and they reduce fanning on the bridge side of the fretboard. This should make adjusting to playing up high easier. The cost is higher string tension.

 

[J R Knots]

interesting as i got a spring spot in summer 2021. He said the rest were more july/aug. Unless someone backed out.

that sounds about right… I ordered mine in early July

 

[gustobassman]

Welp... surprise, surprise. I found another thing that didn't fly in the prior ads for Moby..

I removed the pickups today so I can add the SF2's this week - turns out this bass did NOT have FDV's. So whomever did work on this bass prior to me not only did it very wrong, they didn't bother to check the pickups. See the pic below.

I ass-u-me that means a few people bought and sold this bass under the guise of it being equipped with FDV's.
Whattya know..

 

[davio]

Yeah they say NYXLs. Didn't know they made long scale - I love them on my regular scale basses. Will have to see how they compare to my Dingwall strings soon.

The taper on the B hits JUST before the nut on my AB1. Otherwise, they're fantastic.

 

[gustobassman]

The FD3's sound waaaay better in the NG3 than they did in Moby. Much more "grunt" and beef than the FD3N's. This is what this bass should sound like. I wired them all in series as well, bridge + middle is absolutely MASSIVE.

Just wish I could have actually tried the FDV's, but it's good to know I'm not crazy... the online descriptions of the FDV's sounded nothing like what I was hearing coming from Moby, lol. At least that issue is solved.

 

[ThisYouCanTrust]

The same thing I first commented on. Now, I have a 35” scale six-string, and haven’t had any problems with the feel or sound on it, but I can understand how others may not like that increased tension. I’m curious what strings these ship with, too.

As I said in that thread, I’ll likely try the six out, it might make a good bass for some things. I don’t expect it to supplant my NG3 in any way, but different sounds and setups are always fun to use.

I was offered a very good price on a btb7 a couple of years ago, what really put me off was the tension on the higher strings.

 

[darren1970]

Quick question for fellow D-roc users.
Are you running Nickel or Stainless strings?
My Standard 5 came with Nickels ( I believe ) and I've gotten another pack for when I change, but can't decide whether to try a set of Stainless.
I'm assuming they have slightly more "zing".

 

[SemiDriven]

Run nickels on my D-Bird.

Yeah, stainless will give you more zing.

If you want more zing, SS is the way to go.

 

[singlemalt]

I run nickels or alloys on all the Dingwalls. I tried SS on the Dbird, because I think it came to me with SS already installed. Sounded great.

Stainless sticks to my fingers. After 10 minutes I was setting it up with nickel DR Pure Blues. The .040 Victor Wooten set. Much better!

I used stainless steel strings for years for that bright Rotosound thing. Got a couple duds in two Rotosound packs, after two trips to the store, and just bought the cheap D’Addario XL’s in frustration. That was in 92. I haven’t used stainless since.

I never realized, up until then, how uncomfortable the sticky stainless steel was. And they go dead so fast. I was always boiling strings toget the zing back, and breaking strings at the worst possible moments.

Nickels start out painfully bright, but quickly get to a long period of nice. I still soak sets I like in alcohol and reuse them. Mostly because it’s a quick change with no cutting winding or setup.

I’ve run Dingwall and Payson nickels for a perfect fit and very little set up fuss. Other favorites are TI flats, Infeld superalloy, Payson flats, and DR pure Blues.

Checking with Jason at FretNation for other choices and singles if you want to roll your own sets.

You might grab a pack of each, SS and nickel Dingwalls and swap them back and forth. There would be little or no set up fiddling around.

 

[Derek Williams]

I run nickels or alloys on all the Dingwalls. I tried SS on the Dbird, because I think it came to me with SS already installed. Sounded great.

Stainless sticks to my fingers. After 10 minutes I was setting it up with nickel DR Pure Blues. The .040 Victor Wooten set. Much better!

I used stainless steel strings for years for that bright Rotosound thing. Got a couple duds in two Rotosound packs, after two trips to the store, and just bought the cheap D’Addario XL’s in frustration. That was in 92. I haven’t used stainless since.

I never realized, up until then, how uncomfortable the sticky stainless steel was. And they go dead so fast. I was always boiling strings toget the zing back, and breaking strings at the worst possible moments.

Nickels start out painfully bright, but quickly get to a long period of nice. I still soak sets I like in alcohol and reuse them. Mostly because it’s a quick change with no cutting winding or setup.

I’ve run Dingwall and Payson nickels for a perfect fit and very little set up fuss. Other favorites are TI flats, Infeld superalloy, Payson flats, and DR pure Blues.

Checking with Jason at FretNation for other choices and singles if you want to roll your own sets.

You might grab a pack of each, SS and nickel Dingwalls and swap them back and forth. There would be little or no set up fiddling around.

I’ve found the Payson steels to be much smoother than the Dingwall steels. Newtone Platinum steels as well, but they go dead faster. Newtone Diamond is somewhere between Dingwall and Payson, but at the same gauge as Dingwall. I bought a half dozen packs of them as they are perfect for me.

 

[NaH]

Welp... surprise, surprise. I found another thing that didn't fly in the prior ads for Moby..

I removed the pickups today so I can add the SF2's this week - turns out this bass did NOT have FDV's. So whomever did work on this bass prior to me not only did it very wrong, they didn't bother to check the pickups. See the pic below.

I ass-u-me that means a few people bought and sold this bass under the guise of it being equipped with FDV's.
Whattya know..

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You still could try FDVs at some point (though I realize you'd have to spend money to do so). If you're ever looking for a set, I have a 5-string long scale bridge/neck set I am selling.

 

[tombowlus]

I run nickels or alloys on all the Dingwalls. I tried SS on the Dbird, because I think it came to me with SS already installed. Sounded great.

Stainless sticks to my fingers. After 10 minutes I was setting it up with nickel DR Pure Blues. The .040 Victor Wooten set. Much better!

I used stainless steel strings for years for that bright Rotosound thing. Got a couple duds in two Rotosound packs, after two trips to the store, and just bought the cheap D’Addario XL’s in frustration. That was in 92. I haven’t used stainless since.

I never realized, up until then, how uncomfortable the sticky stainless steel was. And they go dead so fast. I was always boiling strings toget the zing back, and breaking strings at the worst possible moments.

Nickels start out painfully bright, but quickly get to a long period of nice. I still soak sets I like in alcohol and reuse them. Mostly because it’s a quick change with no cutting winding or setup.

I’ve run Dingwall and Payson nickels for a perfect fit and very little set up fuss. Other favorites are TI flats, Infeld superalloy, Payson flats, and DR pure Blues.

Checking with Jason at FretNation for other choices and singles if you want to roll your own sets.

You might grab a pack of each, SS and nickel Dingwalls and swap them back and forth. There would be little or no set up fiddling around.

Personally, I love the tactile feel of SS strings, and for whatever reason, my strings do not seem to go "dead" (so long as I am the only one playing my basses). I do have a friend (and valued TBer) who can literally kill fresh strings by playing a bass for 5-10 minutes. Crazy!

 

[davio]

Personally, I love the tactile feel of SS strings, and for whatever reason, my strings do not seem to go "dead" (so long as I am the only one playing my basses). I do have a friend (and valued TBer) who can literally kill fresh strings by playing a bass for 5-10 minutes. Crazy!

Yeah I killed strings in a matter of days in college. Ended up being diet and hygiene in my case. If nobody ever told you, teenage and 20-something boys are disgusting.