Dingwall Owners Club

[AB Nate]

The P-tone in mine does a very good job, fitting a split coil just for the look sounds like a load of aggravation for no real benefit.

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But with 3 pick up routing it may not be bad at all…. PG required for fit and finish of course

who knows?
I do feel there is an audible different between the P tone and the P but I honestly have not been able to try side by each on the same bass. I only had one P tone and for a short time….. regurts

 

[SemiDriven]

The P-tone in mine does a very good job, fitting a split coil just for the look sounds like a load of aggravation for no real benefit.

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Nice D-Roc!

I almost want to call that a Z-Roc!

 

[Waltsdog]

I would want it closer to the neck and have the good old VOL/Tone. Maybe even a single stacked pot.

You could put it in the neck position on a regular D-Roc, I prefer the middle position. They are standard V/T though so no changes there.

But with 3 pick up routing it may not be bad at all…. PG required for fit and finish of course

who knows?
I do feel there is an audible different between the P tone and the P but I honestly have not been able to try side by each on the same bass. I only had one P tone and for a short time….. regurts

The difference isn't that much to my ears, but I haven't sat down and recorded them side by side so I'm just going by how they sound in the room. I do have 2 P-tones (ABZ & D-Roc) and 2 split P's and for me the strings make more difference than the pickup type, the scale length makes the Supers a bit more boomy. That said the D-Roc is my favourite sounding and feeling bass to play most of the time now, with that P-tone in the middle and being all passive it just works for everything.

A pickguard isn't gonna work very well on a D-roc cos of the raised middle section, would be fine on the Combustions but the split P spacing will be wrong.

 

[Nuage420]

You could put it in the neck position on a regular D-Roc, I prefer the middle position. They are standard V/T though so no changes there.

yea I'm thinking along the lines of a custom. No pickguard, just the actual split P in the neck position and a single knob. I'm at that point where instead of dropping 3-5k on something built to spec I've bought multiple 1500-2k basses that I'm still upgrading pickups and preamps on. I'm trying to come to my senses and just swallow that large pill on a spec'd out bass.

 

[SemiDriven]

I do have 2 P-tones (ABZ & D-Roc)....

Where do you have your P-tone on the ABZ?

Mines in the neck.

 

[AB Nate]

You could put it in the neck position on a regular D-Roc, I prefer the middle position. They are standard V/T though so no changes there.



The difference isn't that much to my ears, but I haven't sat down and recorded them side by side so I'm just going by how they sound in the room. I do have 2 P-tones (ABZ & D-Roc) and 2 split P's and for me the strings make more difference than the pickup type, the scale length makes the Supers a bit more boomy. That said the D-Roc is my favourite sounding and feeling bass to play most of the time now, with that P-tone in the middle and being all passive it just works for everything.

A pickguard isn't gonna work very well on a D-roc cos of the raised middle section, would be fine on the Combustions but the split P spacing will be wrong.

My P tone and P explorations I think are too different from each other due to the scale length. The P tone was in the Prima Z. I think the scale is too drastic to be a fair comparison

 

[Waltsdog]

Where do you have your P-tone on the ABZ?

Mines in the neck.

The ABZ it is in the neck, it's one of the older square pickup 3x ones.

 

[spiritbass]

I like the P in Combustion/NG idea. Or one further Super PJ Combustion/NG. Anyone done that?

The thought crossed my mind to have someone route my NG-2 for a FD-P pickup I happen to have in my parts drawer, but I never went for it (the NG has a happy new owner now).

 

[shade_1313]

All this has me considering dropping a p-tone into a D-Roc. Middle, I guess.

 

[spiritbass]

All this has me considering dropping a p-tone into a D-Roc. Middle, I guess.

You know how to have fun. That middle position is a totally sweet spot. The only instrument I've had a P-tone in was at the neck position of my first (two pickup) AB. It was cool, but I think it would be better in that sweet spot. Would the magnet orientation of a P-tone be compatible with the neck & bridge pickups on a 3x?

 

[kirkdickinson]

You know how to have fun. That middle position is a totally sweet spot. The only instrument I've had a P-tone in was at the neck position of my first (two pickup) AB. It was cool, but I think it would be better in that sweet spot. Would the magnet orientation of a P-tone be compatible with the neck & bridge pickups on a 3x?

I bought a P-Tone and a T-Bird Switch. I made a post about this nearly 4 years ago and didn't get any answers. I still have the parts in a box. I even drew a picture in Photoshop of the pickups and magnetic polarities.

My guitar guy thought we could flip the P-Tone upside down and use it in the neck position. We didn't try it.

Link here: Dingwall Owners Club

 

[spiritbass]

I bought a P-Tone and a T-Bird Switch. I made a post about this nearly 4 years ago and didn't get any answers. I still have the parts in a box. I even drew a picture in Photoshop of the pickups and magnetic polarities.

My guitar guy thought we could flip the P-Tone upside down and use it in the neck position. We didn't try it.

Link here: Dingwall Owners Club

I recall your post. Did you query Dingwall's tech?

 

[Selta]

I recall your post. Did you query Dingwall's tech?

+1 to this!
Also, worst case you rotate the pickup and the logo won't line up, but you'll be fine.

 

[kirkdickinson]

I recall your post. Did you query Dingwall's tech?

You know, It has been so long that I don't remember. Seems like I did, and was encouraged to wait for the 3x upgrade kit that was soon to come. I don't ever remember seeing that kit though.

 

[spiritbass]

You know, It has been so long that I don't remember. Seems like I did, and was encouraged to wait for the 3x upgrade kit that was soon to come. I don't ever remember seeing that kit though.

The 3x kits have been out for a while.

 

[CoarseBass]

P tone in the middle of my D -Roc... could be amazing. I often find, depending on how else I'm contorting my signal, that the stock middle pickup is too thin/middle mid focused. I'd hate to lose my position 3 middle/bridge sound, though... too many options.

 

[kirkdickinson]

The 3x kits have been out for a while.

I haven't looked in a while. The 3x kits that I saw before wouldn't work in my bass. They were only for the newer ones with the rounded pickups that come factory routered for 3x pickups. Not the ones with square pickups that needed the added router. Has that changed?

 

[shade_1313]

A few days ago, Dingwall put a picture of a black/red ceruse on FB, and I commented that black/bright green was more to my taste. Then they posted that Matrix black/green, and I now know what I want my eventual ABZ fretless six to be.

I have something like three basses already planned, and I haven’t even gotten the first Canadian bass in my hands yet (August).

 

[spiritbass]

I haven't looked in a while. The 3x kits that I saw before wouldn't work in my bass. They were only for the newer ones with the rounded pickups that come factory routered for 3x pickups. Not the ones with square pickups that needed the added router. Has that changed?

I don't think so.

 

[AB Nate]

A few days ago, Dingwall put a picture of a black/red ceruse on FB, and I commented that black/bright green was more to my taste. Then they posted that Matrix black/green, and I now know what I want my eventual ABZ fretless six to be.

I have something like three basses already planned, and I haven’t even gotten the first Canadian bass in my hands yet (August).

It can be problematic