Dingwall Owners Club

[Element Zero]

Doesn’t work to get some stubborn knots out too!?

Right at my lower left shoulder blade.

 

[AB Nate]

Right at my lower left shoulder blade.

Hmmm. Well now I’m tempted.

 

[retroXvertigo]

At home is easy enough thru the interface and such in my set up but new project is “more dynamic” then previous ones with lots of tempo changes and such. We would look to run a click track via the IEMs is my main consideration. That and of course no matter how bad a stage sound is you can still have a good mix in your ear.

I was in a band last year that had some synth, vocals, and guitar in backing tracks.

That was run with a click. I used the same set up.

 

[AB Nate]

I was in a band last year that had some synth, vocals, and guitar in backing tracks.

That was run with a click. I used the same set up.

The problem with being someone who has the desire for such pricey things like dingwalls is that it also transcends to rest of the set up! I could almost buy another dingwall for the price of a 64 audio and sennheiser set up.

 

[silky smoove]

I was in a band last year that had some synth, vocals, and guitar in backing tracks.

That was run with a click. I used the same set up.

Same here. My GB group can scale from 2 members all the way up to 10 depending on how much the client can afford for the event. Despite the reduced number of members they still want a big show. Fewer members means more “stuff” in the backing tracks. More members, less “stuff.” The click track is ubiquitous for bands running tracks and one of the things I keep highest in my IEM mix.

 

[Smallmouth_Bass]

Love my BackBeat. Works very well although it’s pretty prone to feedback when I play a low B if I have the units volume all the way up… and MAN is that sucker strong.

I ordered one of the new generation BackBeats and look forward to getting it.

I have been playing with in-ear monitors for the past several months and really like it. I am also using a stage amp as that is what I am using to carry the room, but the stages (if there are even ones) that I play are so small that the cab is usually firing at the back of my legs. I am currently hooking up with a wired setup. I don't find I have to adjust my IEM levels too much; mostly the guitar because he often doesn't send the same signal level to the PA every time.

 

[retroXvertigo]

The problem with being someone who has the desire for such pricey things like dingwalls is that it also transcends to rest of the set up! I could almost buy another dingwall for the price of a 64 audio and sennheiser set up.

Amazon has some pretty nice IEM buds that are really good for the money. AZ10s, maybe?

 

[Smallmouth_Bass]

Amazon has some pretty nice IEM buds that are really good for the money. AZ10s, maybe?

I bought some cheap-ish KZ7's off of Amazon to try and see if I liked it without dumping some money into them. They've worked well so far and now I am debating on getting some custom molded ones now that I know that they work well for me. I am not in a rush as these ones are doing the job and are comfortable.

 

[silky smoove]

Amazon has some pretty nice IEM buds that are really good for the money. AZ10s, maybe?

I’ve got the 12-driver CCA models from Amazon. I think all of the KZ and CCA models are made in the same factory so it’s hard to go wrong. My CCA models are okay. The isolation won’t blow you away but the sound quality is surprisingly decent. Compared to my custom 64 Audio N8s they’re not even close to the quality but not every use-case needs something that high quality and expensive. The CCAs were pennies by comparison.

 

[AB Nate]

I’ve got the 12-driver CCA models from Amazon. I think all of the KZ and CCA models are made in the same factory so it’s hard to go wrong. My CCA models are okay. The isolation won’t blow you away but the sound quality is surprisingly decent. Compared to my custom 64 Audio N8s they’re not even close to the quality but not every use-case needs something that high quality and expensive. The CCAs were pennies by comparison.

The N8s are what I have my sights on. I’ve got some generic ones and I’d rather where my head phones. Comfort, sound, meh. If it’s to integral to my set up I don’t mind the extra expense. I know a few people who have upgraded to the 8-9 driver 64 Audios from a 6 or less and have made mention that it’s a significant difference.

 

[silky smoove]

The N8s are what I have my sights on. I’ve got some generic ones and I’d rather where my head phones. Comfort, sound, meh. If it’s to integral to my set up I don’t mind the extra expense. I know a few people who have upgraded to the 8-9 driver 64 Audios from a 6 or less and have made mention that it’s a significant difference.

The N8s are incredible. I’ve been using mine for a couple years and couldn’t imagine anything else. The dual dynamic drivers for low end is a revelation compared to balanced armature drivers for that task.

 

[groovaholic]

Amazon has some pretty nice IEM buds that are really good for the money. AZ10s, maybe?

I used a set of KZ AS-12s with Comply tips; total investment was less than $100.

Isolation was better than earplugs and sound quality was on par or better than my over-the-ear headphones (Sennheiser HD280Pro or AKG K240)

I’m sure there are better earbuds out there; I am NOT sure any of them offer a better value.

 

[Smallmouth_Bass]

Yikes! 64audio N8's are $1699 and you'd still have to pay an audiologist to take the in-ear molds.

 

[AB Nate]

Yikes! 64audio N8's are $1699 and you'd still have to pay an audiologist to take the in-ear molds.

Yep

 

[kirkdickinson]

I used a set of KZ AS-12s with Comply tips; total investment was less than $100.

Isolation was better than earplugs and sound quality was on par or better than my over-the-ear headphones (Sennheiser HD280Pro or AKG K240)

I’m sure there are better earbuds out there; I am NOT sure any of them offer a better value.

I have been using KZ AS-10's for a while, ($60) I found them cheaper and better than the Shure 215s ($99) that I was using before.

I just saw these:
https://www.amazon.com/Balanced-Armature-Earphones-Professional-Headphones/dp/B09XTYFF6Z/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2K1D50ULTOH0J&keywords=KZ+AS-12s&qid=1661450700&sprefix=kz+as-12s,aps,259&sr=8-1-spons&th=1

That looks like quite an upgrade.

Are these the Comply tips you were talking about?
https://www.amazon.com/Comply-Cance...1661451062&sprefix=comply+tips,aps,134&sr=8-5

I have been using these which look similar:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071HT121...colid=96EIUK9GW2I6&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

 

[kraken_kr]

I used a set of KZ AS-12s with Comply tips; total investment was less than $100.

Isolation was better than earplugs and sound quality was on par or better than my over-the-ear headphones (Sennheiser HD280Pro or AKG K240)

I’m sure there are better earbuds out there; I am NOT sure any of them offer a better value.

Second the KZs! I have a pair of KZ ZS10Pro...very similar to the AS...With cable and ear tips upgraded..those are very hard to beat in values.

JVC Spiral dots is another great option for eartip upgrade.

 

[silky smoove]

Yikes! 64audio N8's are $1699 and you'd still have to pay an audiologist to take the in-ear molds.

For a cost reference, the molds for my N8s were about $75 in the Seattle area. 64 rejected the first molds and I had to have them redone and the audiologist did not charge me for the second set of impressions.

 

[ThisYouCanTrust]

I use a combination of analog and ADAT in my studio. MADI, Dante and AVB are all cool but only make sense if you need an expansive quantity of I/O. If you need 16 or fewer inputs I don’t see the need beyond standalone converter bank interfaces like the MOTU 16A or even smaller standalone interfaces.

If I'm honest for what I do I could probably live with 4, or maybe even 2 channels .. with 8 I suppose I would never need to unplug another cable again lol.
However I'd really like a PCIe card rather than external usb/fw, and then it begins with the interface game

But clearly I'll never need 16+ channels, I mostly mix, sometimes have to redo takes over DI, kemper and this kind of stuff. Almost entirely microphone-free, and outboard-free - everything ITB.

 

[silky smoove]

However I'd really like a PCIe card rather than external usb/fw, and then it begins with the interface game

This will obviously depend on your computer, but PCI/PCIe and FW are effectively dead at this point. USB-A is still around and kicking, and is perfectly fine for most applications where your I/O count is low. USB-C is the new standard and has sufficient bandwidth for basically any application. I’ve run 32 simultaneous tracks via USB-C without so much as a hiccup.

 

[groovaholic]

Are these the Comply tips you were talking about?
https://www.amazon.com/Comply-Cance...1661451062&sprefix=comply+tips,aps,134&sr=8-5

Yes - IIRC, I ordered them in large and maybe could have gotten away with medium