IIRC it happened the same year the veneered top combustions came out. The amethyst one being the 10 yr anniversary bass. 2020?
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IIRC it happened the same year the veneered top combustions came out. The amethyst one being the 10 yr anniversary bass. 2020?
Oooh, I probably still have one of those around here somewhere. However, once I figured out that the top strap lock needed to be reversed, one of my wider straps worked really well, and has a perfect color for the bass.
This strap was custom made by our own AB Nate several years ago for a different Dingwall! He distressed the leather and it took on this great orangy reddish brown color. It couldn't be any better of a match given the wood is entirely wenge and that Satin Blaze color. Thanks again Nate!!
This looks neat! I'm curious what it looked like before? Is that fretmarker painted as well?!
Replacement Neve is here for the Prima, as of today. Dang they sent that fast! Came via DHL. I was really expecting it to take at least several more days. I'll make some time this weekend to swap it + DRoc rotary switch in.
Yes 12th fretmarker is painted on
This was the matte black 6 for sale that Jason from Fretnation had a couple years back
I’m so in love with the Z series this one’s super fatties darkglass dual ash and I get it to have that classic rock sound that I truly love but changing the strings makes a world of difference in sound on these basses Dingwall’s that metal
Sound DR’s more classic tones Earnie balls even better This is my super J 2016 CS with a PTone up front and a superF out back with a Glock pre and DR black beauty’s
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I wanted to get my hands on the Prima 2025 but cash wasn’t available then Loved the look and overall sound
Oh that's ABNate's old squeee. Killer SJ for sure.
I'm curious how long the paint will last on the fretboard. Maybe not much play time at the 12th fret in classic rock though, depending on what that means now a days haha.
Are those simulated bullet holes on the front, leaking some sort of fluid like steam or fuel? It's amazing how the artist achieved the three dimensional effect so well!
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The Artist is Donavan Leaming screamin Leaming of BCRich in Arizona I had my first BCRich and still have it over 41 years. That had battle scars so I did a 40th anniversary gift to myself and had the bass restoration done and he also did work on it and I asked Hey I have a Dingwall can you do something. I need to show you the sides there’s so much to this graphic I like one off stuff can’t afford a prima but I have my own Z
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I just received the new Genzler 800+ it’s. An incredible piece of work! I highly recommend it
I use two set ups the new 800+ and
3 genzler cabs 2. 1/12 bass array and 1. 1/15 bass array to get the full 800 watts
And a Mark Gauch Mark bass800
With a Mesa 6/10. The Dingwall sounds amazing through the clearing of the Genzler and the high pass low pass filters and new eq Check it out plus adding the darkglass anogram just unstoppable
I use two set ups the new 800+ and
3 genzler cabs 2. 1/12 bass array and 1. 1/15 bass array to get the full 800 watts
And a Mark Gauch Mark bass800
With a Mesa 6/10. The Dingwall sounds amazing through the clearing of the Genzler and the high pass low pass filters and new eq Check it out plus adding the darkglass anogram just unstoppable
Can you compare it to the original 800? It makes me curious about what I may be missing out on still playing the 800. Do the filters make a big difference?
I’ll take pictures of the face of the amp It has the clean and Driven channels like the 800 but the EQ set up is totally different
Bass Hmid Llowmid Treble are all sweep able . There stacked knobs
Then incorporate the high pass filter and low pass filter It’s the most flexible amp I’ve seen out there brand new technology. If you can’t find your tone. Your tone def
PLUS on a Dingwall with toggles holy hell and your bass pre amp and you haven’t even added a pedal cause the amp has a pedal to switch channels on the fly
Say you want Stings Police sound no problem thumpy but CLEAN and Clear the ability to find your frequency you want treble but no harsh bite roll down the frequency some times the mids are to honky and full Roll those back
I had just bought the 800 100 days earlier and I just traded the amp in and preordered the new head. And it’s LOUD and clean and clear or driven
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I recently posted a comparison over on the amps forum in a Genzler thread.
I recently received an 800+ in for review, but I wanted to share my first impressions with y'all. I was hoping to have band practice tonight and to be able to hear it in a band setting, but unfortunately, practice was cancelled tonight. I did spend some time playing through the three 800w Genzler heads, though, and here are my initial reaction thoughts.
The 800 seems to be a little bit more mid forward and very slightly on the woolly side in comparison to the 800+. Please bear in mind that in general, I consider the 800 to be a very well balanced and fairly neutral amp, so I am not saying it is excessively mid forward or woolly. Just that I noticed a bit of that in comparison to the 800+ when both amps have their controls set to noon.
By comparison, the Kinetix with all controls set to noon (switch set to Fat) has more clarity in the high end and a bigger low end than either the 800 or the 800+. In truth, the Kinetix sounds very refined with Gain, Volume, and all tone controls set to noon. With the switch set to Lean, it sounds definitely more like the 800+, though it still has a bit more brightness and excitement in the high-end. To an extent, with all controls on all amps set basically to noon, the 800+ sounds a bit like a middle ground between the 800 and the Kinetix.
Some additional random thoughts from my notes:
The variable high pass filter is just great and still still retains functional low end even at its highest setting.
Despite having just one knob to engage the Drive function on the 800+, you can still dial it in just fine using the pre-amp Gain and master Volume controls. To my ears, the drive on the 800+ is a bit improved from the 800 and it sounds thicker and richer and more natural, but we are not talking dramatic differences - but nevertheless audible differences. By engaging the boost and tweaking the Gain and Volume settings, the Kinetix can dial in a very excellent drive, which I do slightly prefer to that of the 800+. But again, it’s not a massive difference, which is pretty impressive for the 800+.
The real difference between all three of these heads is how you dial things in from a tone stack perspective. The Kinetix starts things off with the Lean/Fat/Thick switch and then gives you a straightforward five-band EQ. The 800 gives you the two Contour options, but with just one knob shared between the two, and then a three-band EQ with parametric meds. The 800+, in addition to the high pass filter, gives you separate knobs for each Contour curve and the ability to switch between the two, and then gives you a four-band EQ with semi-parametric low-mids and high-mids.
None of the amps give you center defense on any of the tone controls, but fortunately, all of the knobs are easy to see.
I could easily gig with any one of these as my primary gigging head. My MG-800 has been to the most gigs, by far, but the Kinetix totally won me over. The 800+ takes the rock-solid performance of the 800 and adds some undeniably useful and excellent features. But as I mentioned above, it also just sounds slightly different - slightly more "Hi Fi" - than the 800, which for me is a positive, but I can absolutely see some people preferring the native tone of the 800. Of course, with the tone controls on hand, you can dial in a bit more midrange fullness pretty easily on the 800+
Can't wait to dig in further, but wanted to share my initial thoughts with you all!
Keep up the great work, Jeff!
This is the kind of review content I love. Thank you for this write up. While I walked away from having an amp a long time ago (been all-in on modelers since original AxeFx days), it's nice to read such detailed breakdowns!
Thanks Tom for your review of these three Genzler amps. The Magellan 800 is my primary gigging amp (run through a Magellan 212T cab). When I saw the news on the 800+, I was very intrigued. After reading your review, I think I'm in the position of "if it isn't broke, why fix it". While I'm sure I would dig the 800+, the 800 is a really fine amp and it probably isn't worth changing.
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Have you reviewed the Mesa Subway 800 Series amps, and if so where do they stack-up with these Genzlers?The MG-800 is still absolutely a phenomenal amp.
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We did not do a formal D-800 or D-800+ review, but I did review the WD-800, and I also own a TT-800 and a Bass 800D. We are definitely in the "different flavors of great" category. The entire line of Subway heads are super competent, and share a lot with the Genzler heads in terms of functionality, power, and reliability. But they all have not only their own voices, but there own way of dialing things in. I could happily gig with any of them, from either brand, but if you made me choose just one head from each brand, I'd go with the Kinetix from Genzler and the B-800D from Mesa. But again, they are all so very good.
