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Dingwall Owners Club
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I'd prefer the headstock of the Moses.
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MDBass, that is a beeeyootyfulll four-string Ding you got.
Wank away. Everything is within reach. You do have to get used to it. You might rethink how you go for chords, maybe use a different shape.
On a six string, the side markers seem to be further up the neck than the notes on the high strings, kind of an optical illusion thing.
You'll get used to it, and the clarity of the notes will be your reward for perservence.
Fire up the looper and spend some time up there.
On a six string, the side markers seem to be further up the neck than the notes on the high strings, kind of an optical illusion thing.
You'll get used to it, and the clarity of the notes will be your reward for perservence.
Fire up the looper and spend some time up there.
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Upper register wankery is quite doable but the lower register sounds so good it often gets priority. Chording does sometimes take a slightly different approach.
FWIW, every note on my Dingwall plays true and in tune, the bass is not a limiting factor.
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Beautiful instrument! I'll bet there aren't that many tones you couldn't dial in with that setup. Is the tone and feel of that all wenge neck and FB noticeably different than a maple neck?
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The feel certainly is, with the open grain and satin poly finish, and though I haven't been able to do a direct AB comparison I believe the tone is as well.
Wenge, to my ears, is throatier with a more aggressive midrange than maple, but with a similar attack and rock solid fundamental.
In between services at my church gig at the moment, literally every single member of the worship team has commented about 'how great the bass sounds today'
I'd prefer the headstock of the Moses.
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MDBass, that is a beeeyootyfulll four-string Ding you got.
Has anyone tried one of these Moses drop-in replacements? I'm a carbon fiber guy (I own two Warmoth basses with Status Graphite necks), so I'm inherently drawn to this. Weird placement of the level fret which creates a sort of unidirectional fan, but still intriguing.
Drop in what exactly? That neck would not drop in anywhere near a Dingwall, reading what their webpage states it might be "drop in" for a Fender style body, but even that requires some kind of adjustment of saddles and setup. I would stay well clear even with a standard bass. That neck is what I would describe as an attempt to "bodge" a fan fret, or indeed a half-assed attempt at that frets look fannded from 0-12 and they look parallel towards the top end. Nah.... thanks it looks a mess. If you've got a Fender and want a carbon neck get a Modulus replacement, stick with parallel frets at least you know that works even Sting had one of them.
I haven't read great reviews on Moses necks. They're good quality I guess, but a lot of times, the customer service sucks.
Sheldon and crew know how to make necks. I only adjust my truss rod maybe once every six months when the weather changes.
And as for playing up past the 12th fret? Just takes a little more practice. I'll spend some time up there soloing with my funk ensemble when we gig next month and post video for the upper-fret naysayers.
Sheldon and crew know how to make necks. I only adjust my truss rod maybe once every six months when the weather changes.
And as for playing up past the 12th fret? Just takes a little more practice. I'll spend some time up there soloing with my funk ensemble when we gig next month and post video for the upper-fret naysayers.
I built a Warmoth with a Moses neck some years ago. It did take a few weeks longer than expected and there were some minor imperfections, functionally it was just fine. I think Sheldon has the right idea using the graphite on the inside, IMO nobody builds a better neck. I'm lucky enough to live near the coast and avoid drastic changes in humidity and temperature, I've adjusted my truss rod about 5 times in 20 years, mainly to compensate for alternative strings and once or twice while on the road.
I've no experience with Moses, I just thought the traditional Fender headstock shape was much better looking than the fugly abomination of Novak's failed attempt to copy the only slightly-less-ugly Fury bass headstock. JMO.
(I'd like a vintage Fury with the funky rounded headstock shape, though – Holy Grail).
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I've got nothing against the All Bout the Bass song, 'cause Kate Davis' cover was my first encounter with it, and is what comes to mind when somebody mentions the song:
(I'd like a vintage Fury with the funky rounded headstock shape, though – Holy Grail).
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I've got nothing against the All Bout the Bass song, 'cause Kate Davis' cover was my first encounter with it, and is what comes to mind when somebody mentions the song:
Oh yeah I forgot to mention has anyone seen Alessandro Stellano's new Super P? See below:
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I had a coffee-shop gig last night. I was going for a fat, organic sound, so I took my Fender Rumble 100 V3 combo, and parallel-fret P-bass. First time the Precision has been out in a couple of months. I'd forgotten how much I enjoy that tone in the right setting.
Interesting development, though: I was surprised to notice a bit of strain in my left hand, mostly down in the first and second positions. Although I'm a big guy, I don't have "spider hands"- I wear regular men's L gloves. I'm just over the one-year mark with my ABZ (picked it up in September 2013), and my nervous system has had time to really get rutted into the fanned-fret ergonomics.
This is disturbing, considering that we're talking a 37" long-scale ABZ 5 vs a 34" Precision V.
Especially since the comparison is pretty much apples-to-apples. Both neck profiles suit my hands, and the P5 is a Squier VM, so both have 18mm string spacing. They are both set up with a flush-mount Straplok in the back, and I have lightweight tuners on the Squier. As a result, the standing and seated balance and positioning are identical, and the weight is within about half a pound. I have light-gauge, balanced-tension nickel rounds on the P-bass, so even the string tension is pretty close.
I think that this says a lot about the ergonomic benefit of Sheldon's implementation of the fanned fret system, and the ease of playing a long-scale Dingwall. This is not to say that a Super P or J wouldn't be even easier, but still...
Interesting development, though: I was surprised to notice a bit of strain in my left hand, mostly down in the first and second positions. Although I'm a big guy, I don't have "spider hands"- I wear regular men's L gloves. I'm just over the one-year mark with my ABZ (picked it up in September 2013), and my nervous system has had time to really get rutted into the fanned-fret ergonomics.
This is disturbing, considering that we're talking a 37" long-scale ABZ 5 vs a 34" Precision V.
Especially since the comparison is pretty much apples-to-apples. Both neck profiles suit my hands, and the P5 is a Squier VM, so both have 18mm string spacing. They are both set up with a flush-mount Straplok in the back, and I have lightweight tuners on the Squier. As a result, the standing and seated balance and positioning are identical, and the weight is within about half a pound. I have light-gauge, balanced-tension nickel rounds on the P-bass, so even the string tension is pretty close.
I think that this says a lot about the ergonomic benefit of Sheldon's implementation of the fanned fret system, and the ease of playing a long-scale Dingwall. This is not to say that a Super P or J wouldn't be even easier, but still...
Yes it is a Super JP and its passive by the way chambered body to add more details tuned E to C as all other Ale's basses are 
