All the time, I see people looking for a Doctor. Do people not know how to get a referral or something?
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Doctor Who
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Nice to see the new Ice Warriors look almost exactly like the old ones, although, by the look of it, they've lost the Lego Minifig hands. 
John Barrowman was on TV today saying he's "in discussions" for the DW 50th Anniversary - does this mean Eleven is going to meet Captain Jack?
John Barrowman was on TV today saying he's "in discussions" for the DW 50th Anniversary - does this mean Eleven is going to meet Captain Jack?
Of course. I'd forgotten about the whole Cap'n Jack/Face of Bo story arc. Magnificent.
Ice Warriors....now we're talking.
Ice Warriors....now we're talking.
I can't stand the Matt Smith Doctor. I wish they'd hurry up and kill him off. And the goofy writers too.
Either that or rename the show to Woosy Doctor and the Spagetti Story Line.
Either that or rename the show to Woosy Doctor and the Spagetti Story Line.
Matt's excellent as The Doctor, and I've been watching since Tom Baker, when I was 4. He's got the old-yet-young thing down to a tee. I'll be sorry to see him go when his time comes, and whoever gets to play Twelve is going to have some big boots to fill.
And Steven Moffat, the current showrunner, wrote pretty much all the best episodes since Who came back in '05 - The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Blink, The Girl In The Fireplace, Silence In The Library, The Eleventh Hour, etc, etc... he's hardly a slouch.
I have noticed quite a few people missing Russell T Davies' style of writing since he went away, and RTD was great, just maybe not quite as good a sci-fi conceptualist as SM. There have been a few duds during Moffat's tenure, but nothing as bad as "Fear Her" or "Love And Monsters" from RTD's tenure.
I'm just excited to see what they do for the anniversary. Filming starts later this month, apparently.
^exactly. Matt Smith, whilst taking a few episodes to win me over, has the part nailed. I prefer him to Tennant, but not quite as much as Ecclestone. And yes, I'm also an old school Baker fan.
For someone to say they hate him and can't wait to see him killed off....well that kinda misses the whole spirit of the show IMO.
And 'Blink' is possibly one of the best one-hour sci-fi shorts TV has ever seen.
For someone to say they hate him and can't wait to see him killed off....well that kinda misses the whole spirit of the show IMO.
And 'Blink' is possibly one of the best one-hour sci-fi shorts TV has ever seen.
I'm with you guys. Matt Smith is excellent, and the show has never been better. I've been watching since Tom Baker was still the actual Doctor. I enjoyed the passive Doctor, (Peter Davison,) and I don't know why Colin Baker was so disliked, as his grouchy, pompous Doctor was a scream, and I've enjoyed every Doctor since. My biggest thing with Doctor Who is, LET'S HAVE ONE. My only complaint with the show was when it wasn't on.
Eccleston was fantastic, Tennant was too, and now Matt Smith is just tearing it up, in my estimation. I couldn't be more psyched!
Eccleston was fantastic, Tennant was too, and now Matt Smith is just tearing it up, in my estimation. I couldn't be more psyched!
I got through season 4 of the new ones and I got really tired of them. It just became really formulaic for me: Doctor and companion touch down in some random place, discover new alien wreaking havoc, Doctor attempts to talk them to death, doesn't work, uses formerly unknown piece of information to defeat aliens, everyone lives happily ever after.
That's pretty much entirely the way Star Trek worked in its most recent TV outings - invent some technology containing the words "quantum", "neutrino", "particle" or "graviton", then make it the inexplicable techie get-out for the tricky situation the crew find themselves in. DW did go down that route a little bit towards the end of RTD's tenure, but it seems to have disappeared during SM's reign - the stories are quite a bit more "fairytale" in their execution in the last couple of series with less reliance on tech and "convenient" explanations. Sure, the sonic screwdriver is still a bit of a "deus ex machina" plot device, but it doesn't seem to get overused like the Tenth Doctor's did - although it does seem to have picked up a few new abilities.
Sorry, from my perspective Matt is just like the silly but not funny goofy doctor. He's like an effeminte stoned rodeo clown. Here comes the pie in the face, splat, laugh track please. Honk your nose! Wedgie time! How many doctors can you fit in the tiny Tardis?! Run in circles flopping around like a marionette. Plus this Dr seems like he could get his butt whipped by an eight year old girl...hands tied behind her back, and out smarted by her too.
I much prefer Tenant or Ecclestion. They were at times humorous but also serious and intense. There was a more adventurous, I live for danger kind of tone to the show.
Now I feel like I'm watching the three stooges only not even remotely funny. And I really don't like the spagetti story line. I guess I prefer the 'some aliens causing trouble and the Doctors going to solve the mystery and set things straight' kind of story.
To each his own but I'm just hoping they move on. I loved the past Drs but just can't watch this. I stuck patiently with it for a while but now I'm just wore out and no longer interested. I know I'm being kind of hard on the guy and the writers but the show was so great and I looked forward to every episode but now it has become a major disappointment.
I much prefer Tenant or Ecclestion. They were at times humorous but also serious and intense. There was a more adventurous, I live for danger kind of tone to the show.
Now I feel like I'm watching the three stooges only not even remotely funny. And I really don't like the spagetti story line. I guess I prefer the 'some aliens causing trouble and the Doctors going to solve the mystery and set things straight' kind of story.
To each his own but I'm just hoping they move on. I loved the past Drs but just can't watch this. I stuck patiently with it for a while but now I'm just wore out and no longer interested. I know I'm being kind of hard on the guy and the writers but the show was so great and I looked forward to every episode but now it has become a major disappointment.
I became a fan when a friend asked me to build him a guitar shaped like the TARDIS and I felt I should watch a few episodes to get a feel for it.
That turned into the first four seasons and joining the band. Now I'm fairly obsessed.
My favorite Doctor is almost all of them at one point or another.
I'm currently on a Tom Baker kick.
We're playing tonight, and the gig will be streamed for free on Invalid Link Removed.
All original songs written about the show, the characters, and related whatnot.
I don't play bass in the band, but I do play through a bass amp...
That turned into the first four seasons and joining the band. Now I'm fairly obsessed.
My favorite Doctor is almost all of them at one point or another.
I'm currently on a Tom Baker kick.
We're playing tonight, and the gig will be streamed for free on Invalid Link Removed.
All original songs written about the show, the characters, and related whatnot.
I don't play bass in the band, but I do play through a bass amp...
I have to agree with some of the recent posts. I love Doctor Who. I used to watch Tom Baker reruns on PBS back in the mid 80`s when I was 6ish. Then I forgot all about it until 2 years ago when I saw it was on bbc america. I started watching it and now my girlfriend is a big fan too!
However,I`ve noticed the series taking on a much more "young adult" declining towards "kids" type story lines. Its kind of sad to see a favorite show becoming teen nick drivel. I don`t have any issue with the new doctor,I like him just fine. But the way the writers solve the episode`s problems are (to me) just becoming lame. IT seems like every problem is being solved with love/hope/general good feelings rather than out smarting the bad guys.
However,I`ve noticed the series taking on a much more "young adult" declining towards "kids" type story lines. Its kind of sad to see a favorite show becoming teen nick drivel. I don`t have any issue with the new doctor,I like him just fine. But the way the writers solve the episode`s problems are (to me) just becoming lame. IT seems like every problem is being solved with love/hope/general good feelings rather than out smarting the bad guys.
I've liked all the doctors, but my favourite is still the first, William Hartnell. They've all been different, but he just nailed it. Well, for me anyway. I started watching the show when it first started in the sixties and have been following it on and off since. The new one? Well, maybe Doctor Who and I have grow apart, but I just want to slap him. Stay still for a minute willya??!! I've given him a go, but it's all become a bit same same I find. Mind you, I deliberately avoid a lot of TV as it's mostly appalling. Maybe Ian McShane for the next Doctor - straight outa Deadwood. Or Steve Buscemi?
paulie
paulie
Doctor Who was always a kids' show. It was originally conceived as an educational show where an old wise professor would visit different periods in history, complete with historical educational content. Much of the first series with William Hartnell was like this. And the quality of episodes and scariness of the baddies was always judged by whether kids hid behind the sofa.
As for the way stories are resolved in more recent episodes, are we watching the same show? Many episodes have really dark conclusions, bringing the character of The Doctor into question, such as the genocide of the Daleks in Journey's End, the death of the Queen of the Racnoss (the last of her species) at The Doctor's hands in The Runaway Bride, the imprisonment of The Family Of Blood in their eponymous episode, or the whole series of questionable moral decisions from The Doctor in the 2009 miniseries. Even in this past series, there's been various shades of grey in how the episodes are resolved.
On another note, who loved the series finale this past Saturday?
Doctor Who was always a kids' show. It was originally conceived as an educational show where an old wise professor would visit different periods in history, complete with historical educational content. Much of the first series with William Hartnell was like this. And the quality of episodes and scariness of the baddies was always judged by whether kids hid behind the sofa.
As for the way stories are resolved in more recent episodes, are we watching the same show? Many episodes have really dark conclusions, bringing the character of The Doctor into question, such as the genocide of the Daleks in Journey's End, the death of the Queen of the Racnoss (the last of her species) at The Doctor's hands in The Runaway Bride, the imprisonment of The Family Of Blood in their eponymous episode, or the whole series of questionable moral decisions from The Doctor in the 2009 miniseries. Even in this past series, there's been various shades of grey in how the episodes are resolved.
On another note, who loved the series finale this past Saturday?
I thought it was great. Some of the editing in of the past doctors was a bit hammy, but generally I thought it was great. And I have such a crush on Clara.
John Hurt? My guess...he is the doctor between McGann and Eccleston - the only regeneration we've never seen. And he did something very bad during the Time War of which Eccleston speaks....
I was a bit surprised to see john hurt! I don`t think I`ve ever realized that there was a Doctor/regeneration that we haven't been shown. Hmm,that gives me something to think about for awhile.
Interesting.......
Interesting.......
I hate to be the one to break the news but the show has always been fantastic, and it has always been somewhat cheesy, and it has always had strengths and weaknesses.
It's one of the most consistent shows I've ever seen. ANY doctor has good and bad episodes, and sometimes the writing is incredible, and sometimes, not so much.
The one thing that is consistent is, they are daring with concepts, and most of the acting is top-notch.
I didn't much care for the "sing at the malevolent sun" episode, but the recent cybermen, ice warrior, prehistoric crimson slug and now whispermen episodes were all just as good as anything the show has ever done.
I make a point of watching Hartnell, and then Pertwee, and then Colin Baker, and then McCoy, and jump back to Tom Baker as much as I can. Obviously, I can't watch much from Patrick Troughton, because it's not there to watch. I jump about between the classic doctors, after I read all the complaints about the new series, and then I jump about between Eccleston, Tennant and Smith, and I find that the show is just always pretty darn good, especially compared to the rest of what's on TV.
But I don't think too much. I just enjoy it. It's a show about a guy who travels through space and time in a police box. People who try and critique a show like that just don't add up, for me.
It's one of the most consistent shows I've ever seen. ANY doctor has good and bad episodes, and sometimes the writing is incredible, and sometimes, not so much.
The one thing that is consistent is, they are daring with concepts, and most of the acting is top-notch.
I didn't much care for the "sing at the malevolent sun" episode, but the recent cybermen, ice warrior, prehistoric crimson slug and now whispermen episodes were all just as good as anything the show has ever done.
I make a point of watching Hartnell, and then Pertwee, and then Colin Baker, and then McCoy, and jump back to Tom Baker as much as I can. Obviously, I can't watch much from Patrick Troughton, because it's not there to watch. I jump about between the classic doctors, after I read all the complaints about the new series, and then I jump about between Eccleston, Tennant and Smith, and I find that the show is just always pretty darn good, especially compared to the rest of what's on TV.
But I don't think too much. I just enjoy it. It's a show about a guy who travels through space and time in a police box. People who try and critique a show like that just don't add up, for me.
Well said! I've been watching Tom Baker lately, and I think the latest Matt Smith episodes are just as consistent and just as good.
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This has been (accidentally, by Hurt) confirmed. He IS the 9th Doctor, an incarnation that the Doctor himself has forgotten about for reasons yet to be explained.
Doctor Who was always a kids' show. It was originally conceived as an educational show where an old wise professor would visit different periods in history, complete with historical educational content. Much of the first series with William Hartnell was like this. And the quality of episodes and scariness of the baddies was always judged by whether kids hid behind the sofa.
As for the way stories are resolved in more recent episodes, are we watching the same show? Many episodes have really dark conclusions, bringing the character of The Doctor into question, such as the genocide of the Daleks in Journey's End, the death of the Queen of the Racnoss (the last of her species) at The Doctor's hands in The Runaway Bride, the imprisonment of The Family Of Blood in their eponymous episode, or the whole series of questionable moral decisions from The Doctor in the 2009 miniseries. Even in this past series, there's been various shades of grey in how the episodes are resolved.
On another note, who loved the series finale this past Saturday?
I think what change-jug is talking about is that the target audience HAS gotten to be less children and more adolescent. Not to be too get-off-my-lawn, but I think part of the magic of the old show was that it aimed at kids without talking down to them. The recent Doctors have been good, especially Tennant, but casting relatively young actors as the Doctor and the casting of companions in particular, along with the writing, clearly aims at sex appeal the older incarnation avoided, and I don't think it improves the show.
