Does anyone still use the old Eden cabs?

[agedhorse]

I played an Eden D-115T for years and it was a great cab. It was both heavy (by today's standards) and a little awkward to carry, but well worth the effort! IIRC mine was an 8 Ohm cab rated for 200 Watts. The Eden cast bronze HF horn in the upper right hand corner was as unforgettable as the cabinet's sound.

I think the horn was “golden” painted plastic, but there may have been some painted aluminum horns as well. Gold was one of the early Eden “themes”, repeated in the “golden ear” ic.

 

[TomB]

I think the horn was “golden” painted plastic, but there may have been some painted aluminum horns as well. Gold was one of the early Eden “themes”, repeated in the “golden ear” ic.

Mine was definitely aluminum - figured it was anodized gold but never really checked. The matte finish held the color well. Eden was into gold!

 

[Pocket Dave]

I had 210, 410, and 115XLT cabs over time and loved them all. I especially valued the 210 as a small club cab and am still happy with a 210. …but half the weight of the XLT is just fine, thank you .

I LOVED the tone and response of my 210XLT. It wouldn't fit in either the back seat or trunk ("boot" for those of you playing along in the UK) of my 2008 Acura TL at the time, a car would've otherwise preferred to drive to lighter-cartage gigs.

Now that I'm an old dude with minimal remaining usable disks and a permanently separated shoulder, the weight would be a factor, especially for gigs like this one I'm on once a month:

 

[Al Kraft]

I think the horn was “golden” painted plastic, but there may have been some painted aluminum horns as well. Gold was one of the early Eden “themes”, repeated in the “golden ear” ic.

I never actually checked it close enough to know, so I should more be careful about my description.

The SWR Goliath Jr II cab I owned had what appeared to be a stamped aluminum HF driver assembly (possibly painted plastic as well), so I figured Eden was just trying to go one better.

So much for my reputation for being an informed and discriminating consumer.

 

[agedhorse]

I’be seem them both ways.

 

[jjk2007]

In the mid 90’s I travelled back and forth across the country for 3 years with a WT-500 bridged into a D410T cab. That setup made it through countless hours of playtime and even survived a crash that led to our van and gear trailer rolling. Have also owned a few other of the D series cabs and the WT-800 too. I ended up moving on back when Eden went through a period of poor QC and I believe they also had some customer service woes. A couple of years ago I ended up picking up a WT-550 that had some issues and a cosmetically great 210XLT but the speakers were on their last leg. I ended up spending money to repair the amp and bought a recone kit and did both drivers. It sounded good but not worth keeping around as my Genzler setup did everything better. I think my BA410 cab might have been a few pounds lighter than the Eden 210..... I've got a soft spot for Eden for sure, but the chances of me buying any again are about slim to none.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

In the mid 90’s I travelled back and forth across the country for 3 years with a WT-500 bridged into a D410T cab. That setup made it through countless hours of playtime and even survived a crash that led to our van and gear trailer rolling. Have also owned a few other of the D series cabs and the WT-800 too. I ended up moving on back when Eden went through a period of poor QC and I believe they also had some customer service woes. A couple of years ago I ended up picking up a WT-550 that had some issues and a cosmetically great 210XLT but the speakers were on their last leg. I ended up spending money to repair the amp and bought a recone kit and did both drivers. It sounded good but not worth keeping around as my Genzler setup did everything better. I think my BA410 cab might have been a few pounds lighter than the Eden 210..... I've got a soft spot for Eden for sure, but the chances of me buying any again are about slim to none.

Eden 410 cabs were a load and a half for sure. Their 210 cabs are definitely heavy by today’s standards, but I find them very manageable to move around. That said, If I were starting out shopping for cabs these days, I’d be looking at other options too.

 

[Ben Clarke]

I gigged and loved a pair of D112XLT for over decade. Still have them, but thinking of letting them go. I had been itching to get sealed cabs back in my life, and found a pair of Bergantino NV115. It's the wrong direction weight-wise, but they're not too bad, and I also bought a good cart. I can't pull off a one-trip load in, even with one cab.

They are 38 pounds, so not light by today's measure. Low end extension is a limiting factor if you're trying to use one for high volume, but I never struggled to keep up with a pair (or a single, because I would just bring both when needed). That's including 5 string reggae stuff outdoors, and loud rock stages too.

One thing about Eden's sensitivity ratings, mentioned earlier, from that era - they are lies. They probably hit that number at one frequency within the cab's range (if that) and called that the spec. There is no way outside of quantum entanglement or magic that a small single 12" with usable midrange has a frequency range extending down to 32Hz (+/- 2dB) with a sensitivity of 103dB. Paul W. Klipsch had a catchphrase that applies. I don't know, maybe their measurement chamber was a bass horn...

Anyway, love the cabs but can't argue with any of the criticism and comparison to contemporary options.

There was a super clean one on Reverb for a long time, in LA, I think. They absolutely wouldn't ship when I inquired, and not sure if it's worth your trip, but I would have added a 3rd cab if I could have found one before I found the NV115.

 

[Lo-E]

One thing about Eden's sensitivity ratings, mentioned earlier, from that era - they are lies.

I have no idea how Eden (or Eden’s marketing department) arrived at their ratings nor have I any means to measure such things in any meaningful way that would tell me how true or false their claims were but I will say this: both of my Eden 210s, a D-210T and a D-210XLT, are noticeably more efficient than most of the other cabs I have owned or played through. There are exceptions, but most of the cabs I have experience with are extremely power-hungry compared to the Edens. Some may outperform them in other ways but not in efficiency.

 

[Ben Clarke]

I have no idea how Eden (or Eden’s marketing department) arrived at their ratings nor have I any means to measure such things in any meaningful way that would tell me how true or false their claims were but I will say this: both of my Eden 210s, a D-210T and a D-210XLT, are noticeably more efficient than most of the other cabs I have owned or played through. There are exceptions, but most of the cabs I have experience with are extremely power-hungry compared to the Edens. Some may outperform them in other ways but not in efficiency.

well, lying about specs is a well worn groove on the bass gear record, and Eden's marketing dept was still Eden.

The variable response of our own hearing and the environmental interaction makes subjective evaluation of that pretty sketchy.

It's not physically possible to get even close to the spec on the D112XLT in a package that size.

My comment is not to talk trash about what Eden did, but to caution against giving those specs any serious consideration when comparing to other cabs' specs and/or personal experience in an attempt to predict what those Edens might do.

104dB sensitivity with a frequency response of 32Hz-14kHz +/-2dB requires a very, very large cabinet (bass horns help) and a 3-way design unless you want to spend military money, or accept high distortion levels.

It's complete fabrication.

Please note I still love the speakers and gigged the snot out of them for well over a decade, even with that knowledge. You can too.

 

[Lo-E]

You can too.

And I have for about 30 years.

I think we’re actually mostly in agreement. As I said, I have no idea how close to their claims they get or if they get close at all.

Regardless of the numbers, real or imaginary, I have found them to be quite efficient, comparatively. I wasn’t trying to be an Eden apologist.
Also, I think their specs got more and more…. let’s just say ‘optimistic’… as time went on. My cabs are fairly early models and I don’t remember the spec claims being as outrageous as 104dB, which would be a neat trick for any bass cab. If they did claim that I’ve long since forgotten it as I don’t pay those things much mind.

I don’t gig my Edens anymore as of last year. My back doesn’t like 70lb 210s anywhere near as much as it did in the ‘90s and I’ve moved on to a pair of Baer 12s. As much as I loved my old Edens, the Baers weigh close to half as much, sound even better and get just as loud…. but they need more power to do it.

 

[bass.slinger]

Yeah, still have a 410XLT that I consider letting go of - problem is no one wants these anymore…

As mentioned, the specs were BS, but still loved the sound.

I keep thinking that I might create a NAM of this rig in the future.

 

[darev]

both of my Eden 210s, a D-210T and a D-210XLT, are noticeably more efficient than most of the other cabs I have owned or played through.

Please note I still love the speakers and gigged the snot out of them for well over a decade, even with that knowledge. You can too.

And I have for about 30 years

Those are the same models that I have. A few 210T & a 210XLT exclusively. I haven’t gigged out with them in a few years but only because I haven’t played live in a few years. As stated above, I have used them for every show since 1997 & they still look and sound killer.

 

[gdp024]

Attempting to revive this because, seriously, does nobody make a comparable sounding light weight cab to the XLT series?

That grizzly low mid girth but still fast and hifi.. maybe I’m stuck in the 90s but I don’t care.

 

[Pep]

I use a DC112XLT with a 112 XLT extension speaker cab as a stack for band rehearsal but I never use the to gig. They sound really good but my preference is a Mesa 800B with a Greenbiy fEARless F112 stacked on a Greenbiy fEARless 12” Sub. Pics below.

 

[Alex4bass]

500w of killer rock tone. Happy since 2008.

 

[Pep]

500w of killer rock tone. Happy since 2008.

I’ve had my DC112XLT & 112XLT for about 12 years ago. Git them from a local dealer that was going out of business. Both were on the floor, brand new,. They were still sitting there 3 days before they going to close their doors. They were marked down about 25%. I offered them 1/2 of what they were asking which turned out to be about 62.5% off normal selling price and took them home.
I’ve never gigged them, only rehearsal.
Had to replace the cooling fan in the amp. Otherwise no issues.

 

[TomB]

I’ve had my DC112XLT & 112XLT for about 12 years ago frim a local dealer that was going out of business. Both were on the floor, brand new, and I bought them for a little less than 1/2 price. I’ve never gigged them, on rehearsal.
Had to replace the cooling fan in the amp. Otherwise no issues.

I really like the Time Traveller head - it had the Eden sound I love, but I never owned one at the time. My WT 400 was my go-to until it broke one too many times. That’s a nice combo!

 

[Pep]

I really like the Time Traveller head - it had the Eden sound I love, but I never owned one at the time. My WT 400 was my go-to until it broke one too many times. That’s a nice combo!

I love the sound but not the weight.

 

[TomB]

I love the sound but not the weight.

I figured that. I owned a series of XLT’s for years. Now my whole rig is lighter than ANY one of those cabs. But that low-mid thing is pretty cool!