Does playing an instrument make you a musician?

[UncleBalsamic]

I think if you make/play music, you're a musician.

 

[Samthebassist]

I think if you make/play music, you're a musician.

right on!!!!!

 

[peaveyuser]

Who cares?! music is a source of expression. It is meant to make you feel.

Really if you really give that much of a rats ass what the "true" meaning of musician is, and if you are truely one, then you got the ego bug biting yah pretty hard.

Just play and enjoy it.

 

[flakeh]

lol...


I agree with sams original statement, I'm far to lazy to go threw the entire thread to get a general consensus..

According to teh dictionaries...

n.

One who composes, conducts, or performs music, especially instrumental music.

[Middle English musicien, from Old French, from Latin mūsica, music. See music.]
musicianly mu·si'cian·ly adj.
musicianship mu·si'cian·ship' n.

 

[DanielleMuscato]

But discussing the meanings of things is fun! lol

Out in the world, I don't care what you call yourself... but if we're gonna have a thread about it, I want to talk about it... this is "talk bass" after all

I can teach somebody how to play a simple song on a bass in about 5 minutes. S/he won't be very good, but does that make him a musician?

What if I sponsored a "Bass Week" and brought in 20 teachers to give 5-minute lessons for free to the entire town of Jefferson City, Missouri (the capital of Missouri)?

In an 8-hour day with 1 minute between lessons and a half-hour for lunch, each teacher could teach 75 people how to play a simple song on the bass, or 1500 students a day. By the end of the "Bass Week," 10,500 people would be able to "play an instrument." Considering the population of Jeff City is about 40,000, and that there are at least 500 (I'm being extremely conservative) people in Jeff City who can already play an instrument...

According to your definition, per capita, Jeff City would have the highest number of musicians (about 1 in 3) to any city in the world.

There is more to being labeled/calling oneself a musician than just playing an instrument, isn't there? What percentage of the population sings in the shower? Are they all musicians, too?

 

[Samthebassist]

But discussing the meanings of things is fun! lol

Out in the world, I don't care what you call yourself... but if we're gonna have a thread about it, I want to talk about it... this is "talk bass" after all

I can teach somebody how to play a simple song on a bass in about 5 minutes. S/he won't be very good, but does that make him a musician?

What if I sponsored a "Bass Week" and brought in 20 teachers to give 5-minute lessons for free to the entire town of Jefferson City, Missouri (the capital of Missouri)?

In an 8-hour day with 1 minute between lessons and a half-hour for lunch, each teacher could teach 75 people how to play a simple song on the bass, or 1500 students a day. By the end of the "Bass Week," 10,500 people would be able to "play an instrument." Considering the population of Jeff City is about 40,000, and that there are at least 500 (I'm being extremely conservative) people in Jeff City who can already play an instrument.

According to your definition, per capita, Jeff City would have the highest number of musicians (about 1 in 3) to any city in the world. There is more to being labeled/calling oneself a musician than just playing an instrument, isn't there?

yeah no kidding...i've said that...like a thousand times.....

in fact...thats exactly my point!!!!! you CANNOT b a musician....if u can play like...1 song or w/e......or just have a minute lesson.....

you need more then that....hence....MY DEFINITION OF MUSICIAN.....

also.....its St. Louis........St. Louis is the cap of MO

 

[DanielleMuscato]

yeah no kidding...i've said that...like a thousand times.....

in fact...thats exactly my point!!!!! you CANNOT b a musician....if u can play like...1 song or w/e......or just have a minute lesson.....

you need more then that....hence....MY DEFINITION OF MUSICIAN.....

also.....its St. Louis........St. Louis is the cap of MO

Jefferson City is the capital of Missouri. Look it up if you'd like... I was born and raised in Missouri. I'm also disinclined to believe that sort of distinction from someone who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're" or "its" and "it's," haha

So if you can play a dozen songs, does that make you a musician? Where is the cut-off?

 

[TrevorOfDoom]

yeah no kidding...i've said that...like a thousand times.....

in fact...thats exactly my point!!!!! you CANNOT b a musician....if u can play like...1 song or w/e......or just have a minute lesson.....

you need more then that....hence....MY DEFINITION OF MUSICIAN.....

also.....its St. Louis........St. Louis is the cap of MO

i have to say, to be a musician is to be consumed by passion for your instrument and your craft.

but please, for the love of Gandhi, stop using so many periods. it hurts my eyes, and i think my brain is crying a little.
it's called a comma, and it's a beautiful thing.

thank you.

 

[Samthebassist]

Jefferson City is the capital of Missouri. Look it up if you'd like... I was born and raised in Missouri.

So if you can play a dozen songs, does that make you a musician? Where is the cut-off?

o snap you're right!!!! my bad...it is Jefferson... *hehehe?*


also theres not really a cut off......if u read my friggen deffinition of a musician...then you;d understand....

i can play tons of instruments....but i'm a Bassist....I'm a musician.....ok.....

just read the deff.

 

[Samthebassist]

i have to say, to be a musician is to be consumed by passion for your instrument and your craft.

but please, for the love of Gandhi, stop using so many periods. it hurts my eyes, and i think my brain is crying a little.
it's called a comma, and it's a beautiful thing.

thank you.

when i do my little "...." it means i friggen pausing....god.

and i'll so as much as i want. thnk u very much. If you gota prob with it...then dont read my thread... :scowl:

 

[TrevorOfDoom]

when i do my little "...." it means i friggen pausing....god.

that's funny, because a pause is exactly what is implied with a comma.
the three dots are supposed to imply dramatic pause, not a pause in statement or change in train of thought, as you've been using them for.

 

[DanielleMuscato]

Musician--

A person with musical talents of any kind that puts their heart, mind, soul, and spirit into their instrument that aspires to learn technique AND music styling and is 100% dedicated.

Not to pick on you, but a person is a "who," not a "that," and a singular "person" would put "his" or "her" heart, mind, etc, not the plural "their" and so on...

Anyway, sorry; bad grammar is a peeve of mine...

If someone is not 100% dedicated, does that make him not a musician? You say you are a musician. Are you in school? Do you do your homework for other classes besides music? Do you care about your other grades? Do you have a boyfriend, pet, etc? Do you like going on vacations for reasons other than seeing concerts?

What about the guys who play music for a living, writing, performing & traveling, who write "Musician" under the occupation field of their tax forms, but are married? They have a dedication to their wives, to their marriages, so that means they can't be 100% committed to music. Does that mean they are not musicians? Just curious.

 

[mjolnir]

that's funny, because a pause is exactly what is implied with a comma.
the three dots are supposed to imply dramatic pause, not a pause in statement or change in train of thought, as you've been using them for.

She's not even in high school, chum, give her a break. It's not like they teach you this stuff in elementary school, GOD...

 

[DanielleMuscato]

that's funny, because a pause is exactly what is implied with a comma.
the three dots are supposed to imply dramatic pause, not a pause in statement or change in train of thought, as you've been using them for.

Actually, ellipsis ("...") comes from the Greek word ἔλλειψις, which means "ommission." Using ellipses in English writing indicates that you removed irrelevant information from a verbatim quote. In other words, ellipses should only be used when quoting someone.

In your own original writing, you should use a comma instead, but on Internet fora, grammar rules aren't enforced, apparently

 

[Samthebassist]

Not to pick on you, but a person is a "who," not a "that," and a singular "person" would put "his" or "her" heart, mind, etc, not the plural "their" and so on...

Anyway, sorry; bad grammar is a peeve of mine...

If someone is not 100% dedicated, does that make him not a musician? You say you are a musician. Are you in school? Do you do your homework for other classes besides music? Do you care about your other grades? Do you have a boyfriend, pet, etc? Do you like going on vacations for reasons other than seeing concerts?

What about the guys who play music for a living, writing, performing & traveling, who write "Musician" under the occupation field of their tax forms, but are married? They have a dedication to their wives, to their marriages, so that means they can't be 100% committed to music. Does that mean they are not musicians? Just curious.

grammer's a peeve of mine as well..but i didnt care 2 much when i was typin that......ok

when i say 100% dedicated...i DO NOT mean there entire life... i mean most of their spare time. Like...I'm dedicated because i practice every day for hours...cause its fun, and i'm in 2 musical classes where i play my bass..... When i say dedicated..i mean pays a lot of attention...not just like...picks it up, plays for a while like once a week. I would not call that dedication.

 

[DanielleMuscato]

That's funny, because when you said 100%, I thought you meant 100%

 

[Samthebassist]

That's funny, because when you said 100%, I thought you meant 100%

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do u get pleasure out of tormenting teenage girls?

 

[DanielleMuscato]

So, going back to what you were saying, if someone owns a bass and bass amp, and plays once a week at his church for an hour, he's not a musician, either?

Re: your second post there, it has nothing to with you being a teenager or a girl; it has to do with not being able to understand what you're trying to communicate because of exaggeration and poor grammar, spelling, and English writing skills, and I would do the same to a 60-year-old man with the same communication problems. If you're going to start a thread about semantics, it helps to be a clear communicator.

 

[Samthebassist]

Actually, ellipsis ("...") comes from the Greek word ἔλλειψις, which means "ommission." Using ellipses in English writing indicates that you removed irrelevant information from a verbatim quote. In other words, ellipses should only be used when quoting someone.

In your own original writing, you should use a comma instead, but on Internet fora, grammar rules aren't enforced, apparently

shut up..........when i write a paper for school or w/e....i have near perfect grammer, and use large words. I'm a very good writer, but when i'm writing in a bass forum...im not carin 2 much

and i use dots to represent long pauses..more dots=more pause, i use commas onyl when its like a breath....

i tlak on here like i would talk in real life...but not so many pauses...but when i type on here...i think as well....so when i pause to think...i type it

 

[mjolnir]

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do u get pleasure out of tormenting teenage girls?

Lighten up, ok? Nobody here is looking to just make fun of you. He has a legitimate point, you said 100%, then said not 100% when he asked you to clarify.