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DOOM FUZZ
- Thread starter Josh Pelican
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There are a lot of assumptions being made here. One is that 'doom' is some homogenous sub-genre of metal, which is simply not the case. There are times when the bass should be more prominent and obvious, for instance bands with more stoner/trad doom leanings. Other times that wall of sound that a Supercollider/Swollen Pickle etc give will be just what you need - ie to blend with the guitars and create extreme crushnity. That's generally what I go for in Esoteric, and I think that kind of thing is more appropriate for so called 'funeral' doom, and other more extreme forms of the style. A topic called 'Doom Fuzz' is therefore open to a lot of interpretation and a fair bit of ambiguity.
Valerus is right, the Musket Fuzz is a beast that needs to be strongly considered. It's a muff clone with a few extra knobs that give it a whole lot of flexibility to get a good tone that'll work with your fguitarists to create the dreaded wall of doom. Also, run an EHX Octave Multiplexer into that thing and watch the smile spread across your face!
When am I ever wrong?
Just kidding. But really, it's an epic fuzz. The setting right now I have on it SCREAMS doom. It's sludgey and slow and pounding and slays.
When am I ever wrong?
Valerus said:
On topic, Grimoire's got a very good point, but I think Josh is operating under the premise that he's going to be without a guitarist?
I saw High On Fire open for Opeth... Opeth are in every way their superior. But, they definitely weren't gut-wrenchingly terrible like Nachmystium were. I have never seen a worse band. And I'm included high school BOTBs in that statement.
I'm willing to say Opeth are better musicians but in my eyes High on Fire could be terrible live (like they were when I saw them) and I'd still always like them better because I like the style of music they play SO MUCH MORE.
High on fire's energy was way more epic than opeth's. I love opeth, but watching them making jokes about how awesome they are in between playing songs wasn't as good as watching high on fire be the new motorhead.
Now thats exactly what I'm talking about. Also let me rephrase High on Fire wasn't terrible when I saw them, they were mixed terrible.
On topic, Grimoire's got a very good point, but I think Josh is operating under the premise that he's going to be without a guitarist?
There's a very good chance it will be drum and bass.
Okay, now I do sound like I'm trying to clone Matt (MORS), but I'm reall not! I promise!
I may also use it for just a bit of overdrive in a band that just plays chaotic music at all different paces (think Converge, Ed Gein, Maruta, Robinson, Trap Them, Backstabbers Inc.). Not all bassists in that genre will do it, but there are some that like to add a bit of distortion for the slower parts, or just drum and bass parts, to give it that extra oomph!
On topic I'm impatiently waiting for my pole master to arrive from poland. Ill probably run my oc3 with a little octave and a little distortion in front of it through my new old peavey 215h, and I'm going to try to not poop myself.
I'll concede that both have their place, no problem at all with both being used for different parts of songs.
Al Cisnero's bass tone is nearly all DOD250, the DS1 is set with tone at 10 and ran through a guitar amp so is very much just the higher range of of his bass sound.
If I read that High on Fire vs Opeth debate once more I'll go mad.
On topic, given that it'll be used in different settings, something like a Supercollider or Musket or anything with lots of tonal variation is going to be your best bet. Kyle at Blackout Effectors is really quick and easy to deal with IME.
Or... You could always buy lots of dirt pedals and use different ones for different jobs. Do it.
On topic, given that it'll be used in different settings, something like a Supercollider or Musket or anything with lots of tonal variation is going to be your best bet. Kyle at Blackout Effectors is really quick and easy to deal with IME.
Or... You could always buy lots of dirt pedals and use different ones for different jobs. Do it.
Or... You could always buy lots of dirt pedals and use different ones for different jobs. Do it.
That's the way I'm headed, my board offers seven shades of dirt right now!
I use my Attack Goat at the last dirt pedal (before a VT & limiter) after Prunes&Custard, Xotic BB pre, Mess Drive Hybrid, Blowtorch, blended Mastotron, EVEN after the envelope (Ashdown) because it adds another octave of fuzz overtones ABOVE the other voices, and whatever amount you want from a hint to a complete takeover. It's fidelity is amazing. If you have mucho bass freq it lets it through. With the tone at 7 (all the way left) ALL the midrange freq are let through. After an envelope it's nifty and cutting, it allows the envelope to be heard. Any pedal works well before the AG. My common settings are tone: full left, drive 10 to 12, blend 10 to 12, volume 1oclock for a slight boost.
On topic, Grimoire's got a very good point, but I think Josh is operating under the premise that he's going to be without a guitarist?
LIES
It's all a matter of opinion. I think Muffs are generally terrible for bass (someone described the Black Russian Muff as "smooth" which makes it completely worthless IMO). Big Muff is the epitome of a pedal that sounds cool when you're by yourself, and disappears in a band setting (I haven't heard a Bass Big Muff in this context, to be fair).
"Lots of low end" is a function of your amp/EQ... If you need a pedal to get the appropriate low end, you have other issues that need to be addressed IMO.
The bass sound should not just blend into the guitar, IMO.
So it's really a matter of taste and opinion. What is the best color? (Purple)
"Lots of low end" is a function of your amp/EQ... If you need a pedal to get the appropriate low end, you have other issues that need to be addressed IMO.
The bass sound should not just blend into the guitar, IMO.
So it's really a matter of taste and opinion. What is the best color? (Purple)
