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DOOM FUZZ

#21
Josh Pelican said:
What about the Earthbound Beast?

How does that compare to the Supercollider?

EDIT: Oh, my rig can handle it. That's no problem.
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as far as I'm aware the beast does the normal fuzz sound with oscillations however im not sure if it can be run seperately,... chronicle did a recent thread on it but im too lazy to search as its almost my bed time... (edit: heres link
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=621300&highlight=earthbound+beast )
from what I can read of that thread its oscillation only I believe...

even tho the supercollider sounds doomy on its own, im still running it in a blend, realistically I think that is a key to doomy fuzz... either that or bi amping! to that effect, I think any decent fuzz that can hold a low/low mids end would sound great in a blend...

this is still my all time favourite fuzz even tho its probably a bit more mid centred than low end centred...
 
#22
Bill Nye says try this:

Get an Electro Harmonix Octave Multiplexer. It has a two band pass filter, one for each octave being produced. Turn the high filter to max, have the low filter low, sub switch off.

I put this first before an MXR El Grande fuzz and an Ibanez Smash Box disto pedal. I've been messing with knobs on it all yesterday and today, and am still finding crazy, synthy or bonecrushing, or both kinds of fuzz.

The great thing is that the tracking on the multiplexer is not the greatest, so if you turn your filters up to high or the sub on, some notes will break up in completely random ways. If you hold a nice big sustain especially, the note just has a voice of it's own. Especially if you're coming from the D00MM FUZZZ point of view, i think.

I think I may try my hand at making a youtube demo of it actually, as I havent found a decent review of many of my pedals for bass on the tube

Don't try and play too many simultaneous notes though...
 
#24
Gosh darn, now I am tempted to get the Beast. I'm going to be incorporating noise into this, and the Schumann pedals are a little more than I wanted to spend.

I may save up for a Malekko Echo 600 Dark to chuck into the mix... but after watching the EHX Effectology videos, I may buy some nice EHX pedals for some drone/noise as well.
 
#25
I play in a hardcore band, but we have a lot of big "destroy the world" doomy breakdown parts. The best dirt for that kind of sound that I have ever come across is what I've been getting from my Pigtronix Disnortion running into my VT Bass. I set the fuzz on the Disnortion at preset 6 (bass) and crank the gain up to about 3:00. This makes a great big wall o' fuzz that sounds kind of like a Russian Muff with the tone around 8:00, but with more midrange. The overdrive on the Disnortion is set for a mean, snarley grit, and the VT is set for a fairly mild grit. Since the OD and fuzz on the Disnortion are run in parallel, the OD helps retain a lot of attack and clarity, and it adds some texture to the fuzz. The VT adds a lot of balls to the overall sound.
 
#29
The Beast IS a Supercollider with added switchable feedback loops. You can get all the regular Supercollider sounds from it, and conversely it's also really easy to add Beast mods to a regular Supercollider (or any Big Muff).
 
#30
There are so many choices out there but out of the Big Muffs I love the Black Russian ones, they are so much smoother and retain a lot more low end than the NYC Muffs. I used to love being able to go to a Sam Ash or Guitar Center and pick one up, but we're no longer able to do that.
Seems a lot of people love the Supercollider, I thought it was in the Muff realm as well but I'm not sure.
These guys have a cool fuzz thats great for bass as well as guitar, it's called the Fuzz War
http://www.deathbyaudio.net/
I've also heard really good things about those OX pedals as well. But if we're talking readily available I'm not even close to sure.
 
#31
What's the deal with the Attack Goat? The demos I've heard are about as close as I've seen to what I think of for "doom tone". I saw the grygryx demo and wanted it, but it looks like they don't have any at the Wounded Paw site. Did the guy stop making them?

I've been using a BBM into a slightly overdriven ValveDrive. The drive takes the smooth muffy fuzz and roughs it up a little. Puts a little hair on it or something.
 
#36
Grimoire said:
The Attack Goat is the antithesis of a doom sound imo. It's a biting, harsh octave up type of fuzz, great for nasty hardcore or something. A fuzz for doom is all about massive bottom end...
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Well, no pedal alone will give you that bottom end. That's what the wall of Emperor 4x15 cabs are for. :D

I like Brian Cook's tone on a lot of the stuff he does, and the Goat kind of reminded me of that.
 
#39
the supercollider IS a high gain muff with a mid control that goes to flat. flat mids should really be enough; if you need more mids, go to your amp

attack goat is a superfuzz type with a blend control if I am not mistaken. I agree with grimoire that it is better for "nasty hardcore".

muff=doom incarnate. now pick your flavor
 
#40
SnakeAnthony said:
My rule of thumb for Doom Fuzz: if it sounds good by itself, it will probably disappear in the mix. If it sounds terrible on its own, you're on the right track.
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I know I'm in the minority around here with this opinion but I don't think the bass should stand out from the mix with doom. Instead all the stringed instruments should blend together into a wall of doom.
 

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