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eBay Issues: Buyer wants $450 for fret level

#62
ChadHidsley said:
You pay eBay that percentage for protection....which sellers don't seem to be getting.

I accepted the 13% knowing I would be protected.
But now that I know the truth about eBays buyer protection, I can see why so many aren't happy with what they have to pay for a one-sided protection plan...even if the seller has an immaculate feedback record and that buyer has 0
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Sellers brought this upon themselves. Weasel sellers would threaten a buyer with retaliatory negative feedback if they received neg feedback from them. Now a buyer is protected and the seller has to be entirely forthcoming about what he's selling. Your 13.5% fee got you guaranteed payment. No bum checks, no scams. It also got you the best price you could hope to get for your item.


Speaking of which, I notice that you've been reluctant to identify what you sold. Nor have you linked the ebay auction. Pardon me for saying so, but I find that a bit sketchy.
 
#63
BawanaRik said:
I have to agree that Ebay isn't providing what I consider fair service for their fees.

They are the only game in town. Like PayPal I think they need some competition.
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They absolutely are providing a fair service. They provide a seller with an absolutely gigantic customer base. They guarantee a scam-free environment and quick payment processing. As a buyer you're guaranteed both satisfaction and the comfort that you won't be ripped off. As such, you have more potential buyers for your goods.

You don't like ebay. Don't use it. And good luck with that. I've sold hundreds of items on ebay, and not only have I been pleased with the prices I've got, in many (maybe most) cases, the price I've gotten has exceeded my wildest dreams. ebay is huge, and for a reason. But don't let me stop you from starting your own auction website. Good luck with that, too.
 
#64
They guarantee a scam-free environment?

Please. I've been selling on ebay since '99

I've had buyers scam me. And I cannot leave negative feedback. These thieves are getting away with it.

Ebay's new policies over the past few years are total BS. They've been going downhill for years.

Trying to defend them is like trying to say China will put a man on the moon..
 
#66
And you have to be real careful when you talk to the guy because he can destroy your bass and send it back to you and then you have the burden of proving it wasn't damage during shipping now you have a bass you can't sell except for parts and he has a full refund. If there is any issue with something you are selling you have to list it as"parts not working" and even then some moron who buys your iPhone with the cracked screen for twenty dollars can still complain and get his money back.
 
#67
smcd said:
They absolutely...They guarantee a scam-free environment ....guaranteed both satisfaction and the comfort that you won't be ripped off. ...And good luck with that. ...don't let me stop you from starting your own auction website. Good luck with that, too.
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You forgot to say "it's so because I said so" and "Good luck with that".

mjac28 said:
And you have to be real careful when you talk to the guy because he can destroy your bass and send it back to you and then you have the burden of proving it wasn't damage during shipping now you have a bass you can't sell except for parts and he has a full refund. If there is any issue with something you are selling you have to list it as"parts not working" and even then some moron who buys your iPhone with the cracked screen for twenty dollars can still complain and get his money back.
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That can't happen! (read above!)

I always have a phrase in mind when it comes to Ebay: caveat venditor!!!
 
#68
smcd said:
They absolutely are providing a fair service. They provide a seller with an absolutely gigantic customer base. They guarantee a scam-free environment and quick payment processing. As a buyer you're guaranteed both satisfaction and the comfort that you won't be ripped off. As such, you have more potential buyers for your goods.

You don't like ebay. Don't use it. And good luck with that. I've sold hundreds of items on ebay, and not only have I been pleased with the prices I've got, in many (maybe most) cases, the price I've gotten has exceeded my wildest dreams. ebay is huge, and for a reason. But don't let me stop you from starting your own auction website. Good luck with that, too.
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First off, I have to ask smcd- is that really your picture? (It is intense if it is)
Second- just curious, do you price on Ebay at what you want to get and use best offer, or do you take your time, and let something sit with the starting price you want?
Just asking for tips, as I have not gotten what I wanted on a couple of things. Stuff I put used to get bid way up at sell time, now their is only one bid at starting price.
 
#69
tobias3469 said:
They guarantee a scam-free environment?

Please. I've been selling on ebay since '99

I've had buyers scam me. And I cannot leave negative feedback. These thieves are getting away with it.

Ebay's new policies over the past few years are total BS. They've been going downhill for years.

Trying to defend them is like trying to say China will put a man on the moon..
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This has been my experience as well, been selling for awhile with 243 positive reviews and probably sold over $30K worth of stuff on their in my lifetime. It ain't what it used to be, and it used to be pretty good.
 
#70
My last 4 out of 5 things I sold on EBay I have gotten a screwing on. For instance I sold a Nikon camera to a guy in California and I'm in Michigan. The Auction ended at 10:30 pm on a Friday night. Monday morning I get an email saying there has been a case open against me saying i never sent item. EBay wants me to response with tracking information. I send back a message that the auction ended Friday night and the item was being sent out today (Monday). Later that day I sent out the USPS priority mail tracking number to both eBay and buyer. So Im thinking all is over with. Well a few days later I get another message saying case has been closed and a new case has been opened "Item not as described". I messaged back and buyer says the camera is fine its just that he no longer needed it that he found one locally that he had to have for his photography class that was that past Monday. So again I'm thinking once eBay sees this its another case closed. NOPE!!! EBay found in his favor.
 
#71
obimark said:
This has been my experience as well, been selling for awhile with 243 positive reviews and probably sold over $30K worth of stuff on their in my lifetime. It ain't what it used to be, and it used to be pretty good.
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+1 it's just indicative of society in general " nothing's ever my fault"," I should be allowed to make mistakes that I don't have to be held accountable for " and " yeah I know the ad said as is but I wanted something that worked and it's not fair that this item doesn't " I have a Mesa combo I want to sell and it's just sitting here because I refuse to do Craigslist and deal with some creep who just wants to come to my house to case the joint or Guitar Center and deal with at least a 60% hit.
 
#73
Locky66 said:
My last 4 out of 5 things I sold on EBay I have gotten a screwing on. For instance I sold a Nikon camera to a guy in California and I'm in Michigan. The Auction ended at 10:30 pm on a Friday night. Monday morning I get an email saying there has been a case open against me saying i never sent item. EBay wants me to response with tracking information. I send back a message that the auction ended Friday night and the item was being sent out today (Monday). Later that day I sent out the USPS priority mail tracking number to both eBay and buyer. So Im thinking all is over with. Well a few days later I get another message saying case has been closed and a new case has been opened "Item not as described". I messaged back and buyer says the camera is fine its just that he no longer needed it that he found one locally that he had to have for his photography class that was that past Monday. So again I'm thinking once eBay sees this its another case closed. NOPE!!! EBay found in his favor.
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Unreal !! and you're lucky he didn't break it and send you the pieces since I retired I hate even leaving the house.
 
#74
Locky66 said:
My last 4 out of 5 things I sold on EBay I have gotten a screwing on. For instance I sold a Nikon camera to a guy in California and I'm in Michigan. The Auction ended at 10:30 pm on a Friday night. Monday morning I get an email saying there has been a case open against me saying i never sent item. EBay wants me to response with tracking information. I send back a message that the auction ended Friday night and the item was being sent out today (Monday). Later that day I sent out the USPS priority mail tracking number to both eBay and buyer. So Im thinking all is over with. Well a few days later I get another message saying case has been closed and a new case has been opened "Item not as described". I messaged back and buyer says the camera is fine its just that he no longer needed it that he found one locally that he had to have for his photography class that was that past Monday. So again I'm thinking once eBay sees this its another case closed. NOPE!!! EBay found in his favor.
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I'm never selling on eBay again. I might still buy though.
 
#79
I'll just add to the chorus on this subject: eBay sides with buyers, no matter what. So anytime you sell anything, you have no protection against a disreputable buyer. Best case: You go through an extended hassle trying to clear up a situation with a scuzzy buyer. Worst case: You lose money. And it's insanely screwy that only buyers can leave negative feedback. So sellers can't leave negative feedback even if buyer receives an item but lies and said it was never received (happened to me and to many others lately). Time for a competitor to come along, since eBay is no longer a seller-friendly marketplace.
 
#80
smcd said:
13.5% And you think that's bad? Apparently you haven't sold gear before. You basically have 4 options other than ebay when you want to sell a guitar:

1. Sell to a guitar shop. You'll take a 50% hit. At least.
2. Sell to a pawn shop. You'll take a 75% hit.
3. Consign at a guitar shop. You'll take a 30% hit.
4. Craigslist. You'll open yourself up to an army of scammers and creeps, and you'll have to meet strangers at your house or in a parking lot. Fun.

13.5% doesn't look so bad now, does it?

In fact, paying only 13.5% is awesome. Which is why ebay is a screaming success. I've sold several hundred items on ebay, and never had a problem. Now as a buyer... that's another thing. I've had several problems with sellers who were weasels, and ebay worked it out in my favor every time. The fact that a seller can't leave negative feedback is a very important negotiating tool. Keeps bad sellers honest.
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What's with all the hate on CL? I sell on there all the time and I haven't met one unpleasant person. Sure there are flakes but the extra money is worth it.
 

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