Ebola Comes To USA

[redwookie]

Smallpox was eradicated with vaccination. I don't think we have a vaccination for Ebola yet.

There is something available. Not a cure but it stop the virus from progressing. The supply has already run out. It is cultured on growing tobacco leaves and the process takes about 2 months.

Regular hand washing and wiping things down with bleach water is our best defense right now.

 

[redwookie]

My concern is what we don't know about it.

- how many hours can the virus remain viable outside the body

- exactly how does infection happen? through the skin (I hope not) or through openings like nose/mouth/eyes/cuts (more likely)?

- ultra- violet kills it after how long?

 

[Downunderwonder]

Western Australian nurse recently returned from aiding in Africa came down with a suspicious fever yesterday. They aren't too concerned for an outbreak as all their returning health workers follow a 21 day self isolation protocol.

 

[sissy kathy]

Smallpox was eradicated with vaccination. I don't think we have a vaccination for Ebola yet. It is possible I missed that piece of information though.

You are right, as of yet there is no vaccine for this. That is another #1 priority that needs work.

 

[One Drop]

One thing to be aware of- viruses can commonly mutate to be able to infect other species, but they do NOT mutate in such a way as to change the method of transmission, e.g. through bodily fluid contact to airborne. This is very rare or non-existent, to my limited knowledge.

 

[CTC564]

You compared HIV to Ebola. Ebola can be transmitted much easier than HIV. There is a lot more justification to worry about Ebola than HIV.

I'm not trying to get into a debate where somebody "wins" so I'm going to refuse all further comment

 

[tastybasslines]

I'm not trying to get into a debate where somebody "wins" so I'm going to refuse all further comment

Hey, it was your statement bud.

And I don't see where anybody is winning. We are just talking.

 

[sissy kathy]

One thing to be aware of- viruses can commonly mutate to be able to infect other species, but they do NOT mutate in such a way as to change the method of transmission, e.g. through bodily fluid contact to airborne. This is very rare or non-existent, to my limited knowledge.

You are in error, swine flu is a good example that. Actually you may be right but, swine flu did mutate in that manner.

 

[aborgman]

One thing to be aware of- viruses can commonly mutate to be able to infect other species, but they do NOT mutate in such a way as to change the method of transmission, e.g. through bodily fluid contact to airborne. This is very rare or non-existent, to my limited knowledge.

You are in error, swine flu is a good example that. Actually you may be right but, swine flu did mutate in that manner.

Ummm... swine flu is transmitted among pigs in the same method as in humans.

 

[bolophonic]

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[sissy kathy]

Ummm... swine flu is transmitted among pigs in the same method as in humans.

Transmission in Pigs
The main route of transmission is through direct contact between infected and uninfected animals.[11] These close contacts are particularly common during animal transport. Intensive farming may also increase the risk of transmission, as the pigs are raised in very close proximity to each other.[58][59] The direct transfer of the virus probably occurs either by pigs touching noses, or through dried mucus. Airborne transmission through the aerosols produced by pigs coughing or sneezing are also an important means of infection.

Prevention of human-to-human transmission

Influenza spreads between humans when infected people cough or sneeze, then other people breathe in the virus or touch something with the virus on it and then touch their own face.

I stand corrected.

 

[Downunderwonder]

One thing to be aware of- viruses can commonly mutate to be able to infect other species, but they do NOT mutate in such a way as to change the method of transmission, e.g. through bodily fluid contact to airborne. This is very rare or non-existent, to my limited knowledge.

Marburg begs to differ, same family of virus but airborne. Scary mother.

 

[One Drop]

Marburg begs to differ, same family of virus but airborne. Scary mother.

What's scary is people who spread misinformation in times like this, where there are enough real facts that are scary enough.

I don't know what sources you use, but I looked this up and Marburg is not spread by aerosol, is not an airborne disease, and I have seen zero information that it ever mutated from being transmitted in one way to another.

STOP SPREADING LIES.

 

[One Drop]

Actually you may be right but, swine flu did mutate in that manner.

Yes, but, no.

 

[sissy kathy]

Yes, but, no.

2 late already retracted go up 4 posts.

 

[Downunderwonder]

What's scary is people who spread misinformation in times like this, where there are enough real facts that are scary enough.

I don't know what sources you use, but I looked this up and Marburg is not spread by aerosol, is not an airborne disease, and I have seen zero information that it ever mutated from being transmitted in one way to another.

STOP SPREADING LIES.

Got that from a Chinese news source referencing CDC iirc. My bad. Still, I bet you wouldn't walk down the ebola ward hallway without an aerosol mask:

From CDC

Although in the laboratory the viruses display some capability of infection through small-particle aerosols, airborne spread among humans has not been clearly demonstrated.

 

[Imaginary Pony]

In a related story, it has been reported that gamers will be the segment of the population least likely to contract Ebola, as they never leave their house.

And bass players never get to swap bodily fluids with anyone, so we're OK!

 

[tastybasslines]

Let's take a moment to increase the well deserved "paranoia".

 

[ErebusBass]

Let's take a moment to increase the well deserved "paranoia".

It is my understanding that everyone with any real knowledge on this subject is not particularly worried and is confident that our health care system could contain this virus. Can you explain why the paranoia is well deserved?

 

[aborgman]

Let's take a moment to increase the well deserved "paranoia".

For comparison... in that same 7 months:

Influenza killed ~60,000 people worldwide. (Somewhere between 100,000 and 500,000 deaths per year worldwide)

HIV/AIDS killed ~1,000,000 people worldwide (2 million deaths per year worldwide)

Tuberculosis killed ~1,000,000 people worldwide (1.8 million deaths per year worldwide)

Malaria killed ~1,000,000 people worldwide (2 million deaths per year worldwide)

Cholera killed ~70,000 people worldwide. (100,000 deaths per year worldwide)

Pneumonuia killed ~440,000 under the age of 5 (760,000 under age 5 deaths per year worldwide)

MRSA killed ~18,000 (30,000 deaths per year worldwide)