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Double Bass Egg Pin questions

#21
robobass said:
In practice, however, I just don't see carrying the thing around to rehearsals and gigs. Even more important is the danger to the bottom block. If you asked any engineer, he would tell you that the Eggpin introduces stress on the socket and block for which they were not designed. I haven’t heard of actual block problems, but that doesn’t mean the risk is not real. Bottom blocks do crack, and you don’t want it to happen to you!$$

Robobass
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I understand your points, but based on your comments, you are speaking from a theoretical point of view, not from experience.
1. As far as carrying it around to gigs,it fits comfortably in the front pouch of my bass bag, and it doesn't weigh much more than my bow - I wouldn't leave that at home either.
2. About Stress-From a physics point of view you are correct, the stress point is displaced with the eggpin.. However, since I don't put my full weight on the bass when I play or use it as a leaning post, this is a non-issue.
3. In 10 years of use,I also have never heard of a block cracking because of the displaced stress of the Eggpin.
 
#25
I would say no, appler. The Eggpin and all the other angled pins seem to make more sense if you get behind the bass more. If you stand to the side and tend to hold the bass nearly vertical, the angled pin won't do anything for you. For what it's worth, i play just about nothing but pizz, but I've developed a stance that's more like this

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#26
I agree that the advantages or the angled pin are more pronounced for a behind-the-bass playing position. I also find no real actual tonal advantage, but think it allows you to sound better because of the aforementioned ergonomic benefits. The biggest thing for me is that when I am sitting, an angled peg is less likely to skate across the floor, which can disturb the performance, and be painful for me if the neck hits me in the collar bone. Another problem I have seen with conventional pins is if the player is very tall and the pin highly extended, it touches the floor far out in front of the bass. This does more than place more weight on the player. If he is really hitting the strings with the bow, he is causing the whole bass to spring up and down (well, in the plane of the bass). This can't be good. If you want to play with precision you kind of need the bridge to stay in one place!

Robobass
 
#27
Thanks, guys. That's really interesting. I'll have to experiment with my playing angles and see how it works... I've always wanted a stance like that but I could never play comfortably in such a way that I wasn't dampening the sound by having part of my body against the back of the bass.
 
#28
Looking into purchasing an eggpin off of lemurmusic. it says there is a short size and a standard...I contacted them but didn't fully understand what they mean't. I'm 5'6, would I need the extra length? Is the "short" better for me?

-Thx
 
#29
Snakewood said:
Looking into purchasing an eggpin off of lemurmusic. it says there is a short size and a standard...I contacted them but didn't fully understand what they mean't. I'm 5'6, would I need the extra length? Is the "short" better for me?

-Thx
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If I understand the size thing correctly, it's all about the adjustable rod length.

See, you can't shove the standard rod in all the way because it bumps up against the arm that attaches to your endpin plug...so they have a sorter rod to accomodate people who find the minimum length unsatisfactory.

Or you can take a hacksaw and cut the rod or order some 10mm rod stock to cut from a machine parts store. I did the latter...not because the rod was too short, but because I got tired of it digging into the rubber foot and cutting it and then losing the rubber no-slip advantage. I just cut a new rod from the stock (a little longer, actually...I'm 6 ft. tall) and stuck one of those wolf endpin stopper balls at the end.

No problems now! :hyper:
 
#30
The short or long thing is the barrel that the pin fits into, not the pin itself.

I had mine hot rodded to include a goetz spike by boring out the whole a little bit. That gave me a screw on tip and that mean spike underneath.

It was pretty nice but a little on the heavy side. I replaced it with a laborie end-pin.

The eggpin is a great tool for fitting those laborie pins, you can figure out what you want angle wise without drilling holes.
 
#31
Oh yeah it's an American made product...the rod isn't 10mm, it's 3/8. 10mm is a little too big to fit in that barrel.

Or yeah you could drill out the hole like Alex had done to 10mm, which would accept the Geotz endpin rod...especially if you want a nice spike to dig in with.
 
#33
Yes, If you are very still.

The idea is to shift the weight off of your left hand to let it move around more freely.

You can balance it pretty well, but not a whole lot with out a gentle hand to steady it. Kind of like the feeling of holding your bass straight up and down but having it at the angle you like or an angle that makes it easier to play.

But you probably don't sit there for long periods holding your bass with no hands.
 
#35
Calvin Marks said:
I just purchased the Universal Egg Pin (Short Model). My question is, the rod is extremely long and I'm 5'6, I'm going to definitely need to cut it but how much?
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When I was trying out an eggpin, I went to the hardware store and found some solid brass pipe that they cut for me in various lengths. That way I could find a good height without ruining a good endpin.
 

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