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Evil companies that aren't WalMart
- Thread starter hbarcat
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The Umbrella Corporation.
Okay, fictive scenario:
You're dating a super hot girl. One day, the thought pops in your head, "Hey, what if there was three of her? That would be awesome."
Who do you turn to?
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Hmm... I beginning to think that my microphone was broken, from lack of entanglements I was getting into as of late.This looks pretty interesting as I own a company involved with fossil fuels. Fill me in.
Mike
Maybe I am naive, but it seems like anyone pushing unsustainable energy with serious negative side effects both in acquisition and usage isn't necessarily a business that I would want to support, especially with alternatives coming into development.
Perhaps you can educate me on where my misunderstanding lies?
Hmm... I beginning to think that my microphone was broken, from lack of entanglements I was getting into as of late.
Maybe I am naive, but it seems like anyone pushing unsustainable energy with serious negative side effects both in acquisition and usage isn't necessarily a business that I would want to support, especially with alternatives coming into development.
Perhaps you can educate me on where my misunderstanding lies?
Where would we be today, if we had never used fossil fuels?
Yes - a big part of the history of creating a larger middle class in the U.S. The availability of credit pioneered by Gm was a critical step in opening the door to credit purchase of all kinds of consumer goods - which has helped bo build our economy.
The problem is NOT the availability of credit. The problem is misuse of credit by people who are not responsible, and for a lending system that ran wild and gave credit for real estate purchases to those who could not afford it.
Hmm... I beginning to think that my microphone was broken, from lack of entanglements I was getting into as of late.
Maybe I am naive, but it seems like anyone pushing unsustainable energy with serious negative side effects both in acquisition and usage isn't necessarily a business that I would want to support, especially with alternatives coming into development.
Perhaps you can educate me on where my misunderstanding lies?
Well, riddle me this. How will you replace all those hydrocarbon based products if we stop using oil. Also, the process by which oil is created is not proven, and oil has been found quite deeper than any fossils. Also, look into the methods by which oil is found. There are signatures of nuclear processes which happen to be happening deep within the Earth. Also, old wells that were considered spent have started producing again.
I'm all for alternatives, as long as they are cleaner, more efficient, not damaging to me and mine (and yours), and most importantly, cheaper. Most alternatives have fallen short on these.
bongomania
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Good point. It worked for our great grandparents, why shouldn't we use the same inexpensive labor today?
"alternatives coming into development" is a key phrase here. Right now, the planet isn't running on "alternatives coming into development", is it? It would seem that anyone ignoring that fact might be missing something. Let's say that everyone stopped pushing those unsustainable energy sources tomorrow. Care to hazard a guess as to what follows?
The Great Green Utopia isn't going to happen overnight (oh, and I think it'll be a shade or two darker than a lot of people like to say) and until the infrastructure is ready for some kind of mass change-over the name calling is comical. So, I'll let others dump money and resources (assuming they are putting their money where their mouth is, most don't) into the "alternatives coming into development".
My money and resources are going into the current energy sources as they are still very much needed and the likely bridge until we know what the "alternatives coming into development" are in final form.
Mike
Google, AT&T, Verizon, VerInt, Western Union, Yahoo.Let's hear em' - don't be shy.
Read this:
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On a cleaner planet with at least two less wars we're currently entangled in.
We've got great minds on this planet. It may not happen today, but it will hopefully happen soon.
You're dooming any new technology to fail if you're expecting it to compete with an existing one during its relative infancy.
They've fallen short of cheaper because that's the reality of all emerging technologies, they don't have the economy of scale to supplement what would likely be a much more competitive product.
You can't expect for green energy to compete with a century or more of infrastructure, money, and commerce all aimed against it. With the right support hopefully it will.
I did that for a summer, all the free food I could eat, then one day I had to fix the shake machine. it was full of maggots. only being paid 5.50/hr cleaning it was not something i was going to volunteer to do. so i got it working, and filled it back up.(we didnt get any complaints about the shakes) we also kept beer in the ice cooler.
How utopian of you. And short sighted. Think just a little bit harder about how much different the world in general and your life in specific would be without fossil fuels EVER having been used by humans. You can do it, really.
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And you don't believe that fossil fuel companies don't have a clear vested interest in decreasing the speed and amount of intrusion that green energy has on their commerce? They're on the wrong side of history, to overuse a phrase that's been overused a lot lately.
I own a company involved with fossil fuels. Fill me in.
Mike
I need a work term, hook me up! lol (i need it to graduate out of petroleum)
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