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fEARful 1212/6, first build!!
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that's going to be an awesome cab, I run mine with a gk mb800 and it's the best rig ive ever had. do your self a favor and put some tilt back wheels on the back/bottom of that thing with the taller 1inch feet that Leland sells and a handle on top moving mine is no harder than pushing a vacume cleaner. adding plastic slide rails on the back will also help with loading in and out of cars,trucks,up onto stages..etc.. for my slide rails I used snowmobile track slides from a local sled shop $14 for 2 48 inch slides.
....uh oops, probably no snowmobile shops on Oahu hu, still could get some slides online cheeper, thicker and better than whats available from speaker supply stores.
....uh oops, probably no snowmobile shops on Oahu hu, still could get some slides online cheeper, thicker and better than whats available from speaker supply stores.
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Almost as great as the sound... is the satisfaction and pride you'll feel that you actually "built that tone" with your hands.
Are you referring to the port shelf or the divider?? Both??.....when you say "port throat" are you referring to anything below the shelf, its not too late for me to remove the foam or shave it down a little, but I*do* want to keep the pet screen there to protect against insects/rodents, any suggestions??
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Thanks for the encouragement everyone!! I am planning on using rails on the back, I was gonna put wheels on the back but I don't want to turn it into a mess at this point, I should've cut it before assembly ... Oh well, ill just get a dolly to move it, I do plan on putting latches on to secure a rackmount to the top, seen this done with another fEARful
DiabolusInMusic
Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism
Totally cool. I'm still scheming for my own first build. Having decided that a pair of 12/6 cabs, built one at a time, was the way to go. Lately, though I've been thinking that the real sweet spot is the 15/6. With enough watts, it can equal a 610. With that kind of output I wouldn't really need another cab. The downside is I'm still dealing with a 50 pound lift instead of a 35. But I can probably deal with that.
By the time the funds free up to start the project, i'll have probably changed my mind again
My 1212/6 is about on par with a 610, a 15/6 is on par with a 410. A 12/6 is about a 310. You will blow that 15/6 trying to make it as loud as a 610. I can fart my fEARful with a low B and an 800 watt head. They can take a lot but they are not bulletproof. Just something to keep in mind when you choose your size.
Looks like it is going well OP. I put tilt-back wheels and handle on mine but I did not go with back rails. I cut the wheels in after assembling the box (but before Duratex.) I got a cover for mine plus I don't slide it on it's back, I drop the wheels in wheel it in my car. One of my biggest issues for unwanted noise was my grille, I had issues with my standoffs crushing. Looks like you are slipping in a wood framed grill, I would have went with this option had I built again. If you want to see my cab I have a build thread on GB forums with the same handle. My thread on TB just shows the finished cab and cover.
I wouldn't worry about rodents living in there unless you plan on storing it for extended periods of time. I'm sure if a mouse climbed in there it would be high tailing it out real fast as soon as you start playing through it.
Looks awesome so far. My ideal cab would be this exact one. Maybe paired with a 15 if necessary.
On a side note, your property looks like it's in my dream destination. I just love that Hawaiian scenery.
Looks awesome so far. My ideal cab would be this exact one. Maybe paired with a 15 if necessary.
On a side note, your property looks like it's in my dream destination. I just love that Hawaiian scenery.
Okay, I'll probably nix the whole pet screen idea, I really don't want my tone affected, maybe Ill get some kind of covering for the whole cab *or* just something to block the the port's when I'm not using it as I *might* at some point need to store it....
Thanks for the compliment, but this isn't my property, I live on base and pay a pretty penny every month to do so
...My wife has a bunch of family here though, one of her uncles is about to retire as a full-bird colonel, you should see his house up by the north shore...drool....
You could just attach some wheels to the back (not cutting out slots at the bottom edge). Then once you tilt it back its on its wheels rather than having two wheels as the resting points for the cab. I would definitely add wheels to mine if I had a 1212/6
DiabolusInMusic
Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism
The wheels are pretty handy, I would highly recommend them. I pulled up my thread, I didn't take many pics. You are not too far, you could still cut in tilt-back wheels. You might have a hard time sourcing them today on the island, though. I would also ensure you use some good rubber wheels, they will roll over everything that way. You will need some big feet to accommodate rubber wheels though. My feet were not tall enough so I stacked some washers.
I also put pet screen in mine, I lined my cab with 2.5" eggcrate foam. A mouse would friggin' love to line it's nest with this crap and it ain't cheap. I put some rodent screen across from the shelf to the back.
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This is a link to my build thread on Greenboy forums, I assume you are a member there. If you want to check it out I should warn you that I am really unqualified so it is a long read with many questions. (I didn't think linking the thread from elsewhere was "uncool" mods. If it is, I apologize and please delete the URL)
I also put pet screen in mine, I lined my cab with 2.5" eggcrate foam. A mouse would friggin' love to line it's nest with this crap and it ain't cheap. I put some rodent screen across from the shelf to the back.
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This is a link to my build thread on Greenboy forums, I assume you are a member there. If you want to check it out I should warn you that I am really unqualified so it is a long read with many questions. (I didn't think linking the thread from elsewhere was "uncool" mods. If it is, I apologize and please delete the URL)
Hey thanks!! I haven't checked out your thread yet, but I will, I might rethink adding wheels after all....also I haven't figured out how to post pictures on the Greenboy site otherwise I would've already....
So tell me, do you think this will block airflow??
I removed foam from the brace and trimmed the rest quite a bit, that foam/pet screen is on there good, I do wanna keep it so long as it doesn't change my tone., any thoughts?? It isn't blocking anymore than a 1/4" -1/2" on any side of port..its not too late to remove everything, but id rather not if possible
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Thanks for the compliment, but this isn't my property, I live on base and pay a pretty penny every month to do so
So I guess that makes it "our" property
Looking good! I'd look for some Styrofoam or thick foam to plug the port for storage.
As for the port throat, imagine the port has a 90 degree bend at the back of the cabinet. So the area around the top of the shelf on the sides and back are functional parts of the port. Changing their shape or dimension by placing foam or other stuff too close will change the tuning of the cabinet- how it sounds in the low frequencies. You don't really want to do that any more than you want to stack stuff in front of the port when it's in use.
So I guess that makes it "our" property
Looking good! I'd look for some Styrofoam or thick foam to plug the port for storage.
As for the port throat, imagine the port has a 90 degree bend at the back of the cabinet. So the area around the top of the shelf on the sides and back are functional parts of the port. Changing their shape or dimension by placing foam or other stuff too close will change the tuning of the cabinet- how it sounds in the low frequencies. You don't really want to do that any more than you want to stack stuff in front of the port when it's in use.
Okay okay!! LOL, ill remove my genius idea
. Actually just looked at Diabolos' thread , I'm gonna remove that stuff and go with his method for pet screen after I clean it all up of course(that's gonna be a mess)...
DiabolusInMusic
Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism
I would think that is a little too much. I think there is a gut shot in my GB thread but there is one on TB as well, I just don't want to clutter with a big ass pic.
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Since we are talking about the guts, you have obviously went with the CBG x-over. I would highly recommend using the true 3-way mod from Sclift. Mind you, I am pretty sure that I have the only 1212/6 with this x-over and I did not install/assemble it. (That reminds, I should really update the x-over thread that it went well)
If you do not have an L-pad, get one!
NCD : fEARful 1212/6 | TalkBass.com
Since we are talking about the guts, you have obviously went with the CBG x-over. I would highly recommend using the true 3-way mod from Sclift. Mind you, I am pretty sure that I have the only 1212/6 with this x-over and I did not install/assemble it. (That reminds, I should really update the x-over thread that it went well)
If you do not have an L-pad, get one!
scottfeldstein
Roots and fifths and a little extra.
Perhaps Greenboy exaggerates, then. Or there's some other way to account for the discrepancy. But either way, I probably don't need more than a good 410's worth of output.
Got 2 of them, actually removed most of it just now, the screen I still on until later though....
Then paint it matt black and you will never see any irregularities down the port.
While I'm not sure if I've pushed my 12/6 to the limit I would say it doesn't come anywhere close to the volume of a 410. At least in comparison to my friends Hartke 410.
Also, why the screen protection? Certainly this will inhibit the air flow through the port...
Why are you so worried about mice?
