+1 and lets say that you get hit by a truck, then your next of ken sells your stuff on CL. Your next of ken thinks it is a real Fender cause thats what the label says. Now this counterfeit innocently gets into circulation and so on and so on....
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Fender decals on not-really-Fender basses
- Thread starter Habilis
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+1 and lets say that you get hit by a truck, then your next of ken sells your stuff on CL. Your next of ken thinks it is a real Fender cause thats what the label says. Now this counterfeit innocently gets into circulation and so on and so on....
Since we are clearly splitting little semantic hairs here, how about this...
I have a real Fender neck. I wanted a matching headstock to finish my "late '66" Jazz bass, so I stripped the face of the headstock. I sprayed Shoreline Gold over it and re-applied the exact same type of decal.
How does that work?
I have a real Fender neck. I wanted a matching headstock to finish my "late '66" Jazz bass, so I stripped the face of the headstock. I sprayed Shoreline Gold over it and re-applied the exact same type of decal.
How does that work?
Stewie26 said:
This topic is not new on tb. Many have said just what you said above with which I agree and is exactly why I think faking Fenders is wrong (the law agrees with us also). Prepare yourself for the "I'm never going to sell it" argument. Ri-donk-ulous.
What no one is adressing is 'whyyyyyy'
Why decal a nonfender [neck]
Just play music you jackasses.
There are alot of people on tour sounding badass with squiers etc, and ALOT of people sitting in livingrooms with Fodera.
Wouldn't you rather hear 'man you sound great, you play like a monster' than hear 'hey thats a fender ' and have another hobbyist douchebag tell you about his collection of fenders that he cant play?
If you picked the latter, I havw alot of Tucci and Pradarf bags your wife will love!
Why decal a nonfender [neck]
Just play music you jackasses.
There are alot of people on tour sounding badass with squiers etc, and ALOT of people sitting in livingrooms with Fodera.
Wouldn't you rather hear 'man you sound great, you play like a monster' than hear 'hey thats a fender ' and have another hobbyist douchebag tell you about his collection of fenders that he cant play?
If you picked the latter, I havw alot of Tucci and Pradarf bags your wife will love!
Yah well, if Fender OKs it as a replacement part, and you have a Fender, and you replace the neck, isn't it as much a Fender as if you got a Fender neck off eBay and bolted it to a Mighty Mite body? What convention shall we follow? A gun's identity follows the receiver or frame, where the s/n is stamped, but the Fender s/n has been on the neck and headstock, and many basses made entirely of Fender parts don't have a s/n.
Is it OK to put Seymour Duncan pickups in a Fender without letting everyone know that the pickups aren't original, thus making the bass not ALL Fender?
After all, you wouldn't be able to tell if the pickups are original or not.....
Just an FYI, my Squier/Fender CV Jazz Bass still has the Squier neckplate on it. I'll gladly show anyone that.
In my opinion if it's made by Fender then it's a Fender.
After all, you wouldn't be able to tell if the pickups are original or not.....
Just an FYI, my Squier/Fender CV Jazz Bass still has the Squier neckplate on it. I'll gladly show anyone that.
In my opinion if it's made by Fender then it's a Fender.
4001 said:
Come on, they bought the assets and rights to do it and paid a fair price. Come on, are you not smarter than that?
Since we are clearly splitting little semantic hairs here, how about this...
I have a real Fender neck. I wanted a matching headstock to finish my "late '66" Jazz bass, so I stripped the face of the headstock. I sprayed Shoreline Gold over it and re-applied the exact same type of decal.
How does that work?
It still has the date on the end of the neck, right? It originally had a Fender logo, so it's just a replacement. If the OP's bass was supposed to have a Fender decal on it, it would have come that way from the factory.
It's OK if someone puts this decal on their own bass but as soon as they try to sell it as something it's not, it becomes fraud. Also, since these have specific model numbers and names, trying to sell a Squire as a real Fender Jazz or Precision is a problem because their original selling prices and values differ.
It's still, for all intents and purposes, an MD-11.
The should have called it the Boeing 11 then.
Silly isn't it?
Either way, my CV Jazz says Fender on the headstock and in the end, what does it matter?
Putting a Fender logo on a non-Fender bass is not in itself a criminal offense. Copying or printing currency (if you are not the Federal Reserve) is a special case.
Since we are clearly splitting little semantic hairs here, how about this...
I have a real Fender neck. I wanted a matching headstock to finish my "late '66" Jazz bass, so I stripped the face of the headstock. I sprayed Shoreline Gold over it and re-applied the exact same type of decal.
How does that work?
I have no problem with this. It is a real Fender. If your BMW car was rear ended and the body shop repainted the car and replaced the BMW logo, that is fully legit. BTW, were do you get a decal like that? I do have a problem with the person who makes the counterfeit decals.
Maybe it would be better if the headstock says just "Precision Bass" or "Jazz Bass" only.
No Fender, or Squier logos. Either way the model name is correct.
No Fender, or Squier logos. Either way the model name is correct.
That's the semantics-issue to which I was referring. The neck is Fender, but nothing else is. I've applied a counterfeit decal to a real neck on a body I built. Where is the "line" on something like this?
To reiterate: This bass is not for sale, and never will be for sale. I've lusted after this exact bass for years and now it's mine!
Ooooh, I've got an idea. Let's drag the relicers and anti-relicers into this one. That should spike the punch!
LOL this thread is hilarious. I'm off to band practice with my Fender by Squier Jaguar right now. Maybe I'll relic it and sell it as a vintage 60's Squier Jaguar Bass to some knucklehead someday. While I'm at it I'll sell him a left-hand guitar pick.
Never is a very long time. So what happens if you get hit by a truck? Is your next of ken going to destroy the bass or are they going to sell it? Look at all the post on TB were someone has bought a fake Fender.
Why did you buy a counterfeit decal?
How many times in the "For Sale" section has this ^^ been said??
