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Fender logos on Squier basses...

Wow that makes sense....buy a $200 bass, put $1000 worth of parts and time into doing all that to it, and then when you are done you still have squier on the headstock. It will still be made with the 6 piece scrap wood bodies. It will still be made into lesser quality purposely so the masses buys the next higher level of quality when their financial level dictates. The basses in the 70s were so hit or miss becuase they were made by people. Now they are all made by computers. Is it that hard for fender to use the same computer program for every bass and guitar made? They use different programs to make sure each bass of a certain quality! Grade A B C D E. If you need to do all that to make a bass playable then its obviously not the same quality.

And you're part of the Galien Krueger club too? I give them an F for unreliability and lack of quality control! The only problem with a Squier that I might see happening is bad labor conditions for the workers that make them.
 
I haven't read the entire thread yet so I don't know if anyone's said something along these lines already....

but isn't some fun to be had with other players watching your performance found by making them think to themselves, "where the **** did they get that sound?".

The greater amount of fun should be you enjoying what you have / are doing. People gotta use what makes them happy (which is all that really matters anyway).

Being the "bar" bass player that I am (who's been out of work for a good 8 years and have gone back to school for a new degree)... I found it somewhat interesting when another bass player (very cool guy, btw)

who normally used a customized Warwick bass with all sorts of onboard electronics + a rack system with fancy preamp, effects processor, multi channel EQ and fancy power amp,

came to see a band I was in at a local Irish bar playing variety rock...and was astonished to hear the sound I was getting from an SX P bass copy (with an SPB-1 and upgraded electronics) going through an equally simple 300w 1x15 combo with tone controls set to only boost lows slightly (mids and highs set to "flat")...not even going through the P.A. given the size of the place...

he actually sat in on that gig on several songs.... and came to another gig as well to try the gear out again (he had my standing invitation to sit in, being a friend of the guitarist)...

I just got a kick out of it both times. His Bartolini pickup system alone on his Warwick probably cost what I spent on that copy bass (which I had to explain to him was roughly the equivalent of a Squier series bass, with the upgrades) and any one of his rack modules cost what I spent on the combo of that time (trying to remember which one that was back then, an odd brand roughly equivalent to a Peavey).

No doubt that his rig was capabable of many incredible things. And his brand names being equally impressive too. My brand names didn't even clue him in to what they were. Would have been even funnier getting all the "stickers' changed to non-existant company names prior to those gigs and possibly creating a "buzz" with the local bass players who cared :)
 
I haven't read the entire thread yet so I don't know if anyone's said something along these lines already....

but isn't some fun to be had with other players watching your performance found by making them think to themselves, "where the **** did they get that sound?".

The greater amount of fun should be you enjoying what you have / are doing. People gotta use what makes them happy (which is all that really matters anyway).

Being the "bar" bass player that I am (who's been out of work for a good 8 years and have gone back to school for a new degree)... I found it somewhat interesting when another bass player (very cool guy, btw)

who normally used a customized Warwick bass with all sorts of onboard electronics + a rack system with fancy preamp, effects processor, multi channel EQ and fancy power amp,

came to see a band I was in at a local Irish bar playing variety rock...and was astonished to hear the sound I was getting from an SX P bass copy (with an SPB-1 and upgraded electronics) going through an equally simple 300w 1x15 combo with tone controls set to only boost lows slightly (mids and highs set to "flat")...not even going through the P.A. given the size of the place...

he actually sat in on that gig on several songs.... and came to another gig as well to try the gear out again (he had my standing invitation to sit in, being a friend of the guitarist)...

I just got a kick out of it both times. His Bartolini pickup system alone on his Warwick probably cost what I spent on that copy bass (which I had to explain to him was roughly the equivalent of a Squier series bass, with the upgrades) and any one of his rack modules cost what I spent on the combo of that time (trying to remember which one that was back then, an odd brand roughly equivalent to a Peavey).

No doubt that his rig was capabable of many incredible things. And his brand names being equally impressive too. My brand names didn't even clue him in to what they were. Would have been even funnier getting all the "stickers' changed to non-existant company names prior to those gigs and possibly creating a "buzz" with the local bass players who cared :)

Yep... at one point I was thinking about selling my Squier VM Jazz fretless and got so far as to have a buyer come over and check it out. He balked at my asking price and after he said he'd have to sand down the Squier logo before playing it live I decided I definitely wasn't going to sell it to him. Different strokes for different folks, but I have no patience for gear snobs.
 
Because you like them better?
I have a $1200 MIA Fender Jazz which is definitely the best made bass I've ever had my Hands on. I also have a $300 Squier VM P bass, which is pretty nicely made, maybe not as much as the Jazz, but it ain't no slouch, either. Guess which one I enjoy playing more. (hint: it's the Squier) Go ahead tell me I'm wrong for preferring a cheap bass over an expensive one.
I double-dog dare ya.


BTW, there are indeed pros who can afford "better" instruments, but they'd rather play their cheapies. Go ahead, tell them they're wrong too.

Johnny April of Staind plays solely Spector Legend basses.
Ben Shepherd of Soundgarden playes a Fender Classic 50s P-bass.
These are good quality instruments, but aren't the upper level Custom shops or even MIA models you see most high profile artists slinging around.

Personally, I've yet to find a Fender MIA that really calls to me for more than a month.
I've been quite satisfied with my Spector ReBop, though. To the point that when the truss rod went on it, I decided to fix it instead of buying a new neck. The replacement cost might be more than the cost of the neck...but it's my bass and I like how it plays.
 
Will be interesting to see if anyone ever comments on my basses in the coming year....three SX basses with new MightyMite necks on them (Duncan pups, CTS/Switchcraft electronics and GraphTech nuts),

with the only brand names being on the bridges (2x Gotoh, 1x Badass).

No one has ever had a bad thing to say about the sound I've gotten out of any of them on any gig or jam. And now they'll truly be "anonymous" parts basses.

I don't have the money to right now, but I'd like to take the OP's idea of creating "vintage looking" headstock logos like the given samples with the names of really old cars, or candy, or radio sets....
 
Instead of the logo´s, maybe someone should come up with a "Headsock", a fashionable piece of clothing for the headstock.


Ad (in a sleazy shopping channel voice):
"Are you tired of the always the same boring headstock designs?...
Does your band make fun of your brand?...
Is your logo a nogo?...

Well we have the solution for you!...

Using the latest in musical technology, and available in 10 tone enhancing colors, we present to you...

The Headsock!

Never again will your instrument be the cause of embarassing moments! Finally your skills will be the centre of attention, and not the logo on your headstock! At last you will be able to get those great studio gigs, where looks are more important than sound!

The Headsock!

The greatest advance in musical technology in 50 years, the best thing since Leo invented the Cello.

The Headsock!

Only $99.99, for a limited time only.

The Headsock!

Available at all major Headsock retailers. Get yours now!"


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This post is pure genius :)
 
Wow that makes sense....buy a $200 bass, put $1000 worth of parts and time into doing all that to it, and then when you are done you still have squier on the headstock. It will still be made with the 6 piece scrap wood bodies. It will still be made into lesser quality purposely so the masses buys the next higher level of quality when their financial level dictates. The basses in the 70s were so hit or miss becuase they were made by people. Now they are all made by computers. Is it that hard for fender to use the same computer program for every bass and guitar made? They use different programs to make sure each bass of a certain quality! Grade A B C D E. If you need to do all that to make a bass playable then its obviously not the same quality.

Spending some time with a trussrod wrench and maybe a file does not equate to "putting $1000 worth of parts" on it. Of COURSE Squiers come cheaper than Fenders - lower salaries paid to the guys pressing the button on the CNC machines is the main reason, plus less attention to setup before it goes out the door. Duh! To high-handedly (and ignorantly) write off cheaper instruments just because you seem to have more money than sense doesn't change the fact that you clearly lack a basic understanding of either the construction or the setting up of your instrument. Four Fenders, but you "suck at bass" and don't have a job...why am I bothering with this? And you STILL miss the entire point of this thread! (sorry, OP, I just went off subject myself again!) :rollno:
 
And you're part of the Galien Krueger club too? I give them an F for unreliability and lack of quality control! The only problem with a Squier that I might see happening is bad labor conditions for the workers that make them.

My work horse 700rbII has been through many 90 degree, dusty outdoor gigs, and pushed hard its entire life, and has never needed anything more than a pot cleaned.

This post has as much fail as the post you are replying to :rollno:
 
Bottom line:
If you wanna put a Fender waterslide decal on your $300 VM Squier's headstock, go ahead if it makes you feel better. Just don't ever- EVER- try to sell it for $1000 and pass it off as the real deal. This is fraud and totally un-cool bassist behavior!
That is all...
 
Guys in big famous bands don't play their budget signature models that much. Flea, pete wentz, troy sanders or whoever may talk like they gig their low end sig models, but they use it for maybe one or two songs at most. They usually have their high end sig models that look similar to their budget models. If you have modulus, music man or fender custom shop basses at your disposal, why would you play the squiers.


Well, the last time I saw Theory of a Dead Man their bass player used a "P" for one song, a "J" for a couple, a Thunderbird for a few and spent most of the night with his Epiphone Cassidy. First time I saw him it was about 50/50 with the TBird and the Cassidy.