Agree, best deal going IMO… The CV jazz I just bought for cash deal, $470. I basically got the tax off and was happy. I think I might buy the 50’s Pbass next and try to wrap it like Dusty Hills “Peeler” bass.
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Fender Price increase overnight
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Agree, best deal going IMO… The CV jazz I just bought for cash deal, $470. I basically got the tax off and was happy. I think I might buy the 50’s Pbass next and try to wrap it like Dusty Hills “Peeler” bass.
Can we link this thread to the multitude of others asking "how do you deal with GAS"?
In early December I took advantage of AMS's 12 month, zero interest plan to get a Fender Player P.
Glad I did, as Players are up $100, and no more extended financing until next Christmas season.
Despite what we like to tell ourselves, there’s people - and then there’s people. Precisely who is hurting, and what the source of the pain is depends a lot on the economic bracket you’re looking at.
For the upper bracket it’s the expectation (hasn’t happened yet but we’ll see) of income tax increases and higher excise taxes on luxury goods.
For the mid bracket it’s major purchases such as increased home and new car prices - and even more nosebleed inducing college tuition increases.
For the lower bracket it’s higher prices for basic needs like: food, clothing, and rent.
Where I am (since the real COL and poverty level varies by locale) if you’re making around $75K a year, you’re doing ok. Around $50K you’re coping well enough, but learning to scale back. Around $35K, things are getting pretty tight. And the further you go below that, things get progressively grimmer.
As far as sales goes, there’s sales reported by manufacturers and distributors - which is basically inventory purchased by lower tier distributors and retailers - and retail or “sell through” sales to actual end customers.
A lot of the sales numbers being reported are B2B inventory stock purchases. That number is popular with analysts because it’s easier to accurately track and report. Actual retail sales are a lot tougher to track because they usually don’t include adjustments for: customer returns, warranty replacements, merchandise lost through theft or scrapped due to damage, or any other factors that would reduce actual real sales figures.
Current concerns about price increases and supply shortages are also pressuring buyers to purchase sooner rather than later.
I’ve seen a lot more ads lately that are advising people to “buy now before new pricing goes into effect” and “get yours now while supplies last.” And couple that with price increases anyone can see, and ongoing reporting on supply chain issues, and you get a low grade short-term panic buying trend.
The problem with economics is you always need to be looking at the bigger picture. Pull any statistic or figure out of context and examine it in isolation and you can interpret it any way you want. But once you examine it in the context of it being only part of a much bigger picture, what it actually shows you is happening can be very different than what looking at it all by itself might make you feel or think. Because it’s all part of a complex system. One where there are no simple answers.
Is four of a kind a good hand? All depends on what the other players at the table are holding. And who is bluffing better.
Most of life works like that.
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I'm not sure what the point of raising prices is if you can't ship product.
I’m trying to buy used as much as possible at the moment. All my best instruments were bought used. I just bought a book on Amazon, a new copy of which was $30, but I spotted a gently used copy for $9. It’s better for the environment, better for my bank account, etc. I would think for something like a Fender bass which hasn’t changed substantially for decades, used is a better way to go.
I believe that is called inflation and based on the way things are going, we ain't seen nothing yet. So far, it appears that most people are oblivious (or just stupid). Maybe our fellow TBers will realize things when a Squier is $1500. I think we will see the
hit the fan, sooner than later. Welcome to 2022.
My mom loves me the same as she did in 2021.
Instead of griping about the most overpriced brand in the business raising prices you should call someone and tell them how much you love them. Took my mind off guitar shopping for a few minutes.
Instead of griping about the most overpriced brand in the business raising prices you should call someone and tell them how much you love them. Took my mind off guitar shopping for a few minutes.
Good lord! I'm a pretty big Fender fan boy, but $1749 for those basses is just insane. Hell, I thought at $1549 it was crazy.
Definitely not just Fender. Prices are going up all over the place. The shortages are brutal. Even for a small-time pedal builder like me, I'm struggling to get the parts I need.
Yup. EBMM Prices are way up!!!
Hey, the good news is that all of your currently owned basses went up by 10-15% value as well!!
Hey, the good news is that all of your currently owned basses went up by 10-15% value as well!!
I did a quick scan of the posts so far and didn't see anyone mention these, but
Shipping prices are way up since 2019, especially if you are importing and exporting materials - which is going to affect Fender (Mexico) and Squire (Indonesia, iirc). A few friends work in importing and whenever I see them all they have to share are horror stories and complain about the dramatic price increases.
Someone mentioned the explosion in RE prices - this also means the inputs for RE is way up, think wood and certain metals and electronic components, which has some overlap with what guitars are made of. So if demand is up for them all around, so are prices.
Shipping prices are way up since 2019, especially if you are importing and exporting materials - which is going to affect Fender (Mexico) and Squire (Indonesia, iirc). A few friends work in importing and whenever I see them all they have to share are horror stories and complain about the dramatic price increases.
Someone mentioned the explosion in RE prices - this also means the inputs for RE is way up, think wood and certain metals and electronic components, which has some overlap with what guitars are made of. So if demand is up for them all around, so are prices.
I haven't bought a pizza that large in something like 5 percentage points of inflation-ago... lol! just kidding...
Yep. Zero motivation to buy a new Fender now.
Despite what we like to tell ourselves, there’s people - and then there’s people. Precisely who is hurting, and what the source of the pain is depends a lot on the economic bracket you’re looking at. For the upper bracket it’s the expectation (hasn’t happened yet but we’ll see) of income tax increases and higher excise taxes on luxury goods. For the mid bracket it’s major purchases such as increased home and new car prices - and even more nosebleed inducing college tuition increases. For the lower bracket it’s higher prices for basic prices needs like: food, clothing, and rent. Where I am (since the real COL and poverty level varies by locale) if you’re making around $75K a year, you’re doing ok. Around $50K you’re coping well enough, but learning to scale back. Around $35K, things are getting pretty tight. And the further you go below that, things get progressively grimmer. As far as sales goes, there’s sales reported by manufacturers and distributors - which is basically inventory purchased by lower tier distributors and retailers - and retail or “sell through” sales to actual end customers. A lot of the sales numbers being reported are B2B inventory stock purchases. That number is popular with analysts because they’re easier accurately track and report. Actual retail sales are a lot tougher to track because they usually don’t include adjustments for: customer returns, warranty replacements, merchandise lost through theft or scrapped due to damage, or any other factors that would reduce actual real sales figures. Current concerns about price increases and supply shortages are also pressuring buyers to purchase sooner rather than later. I’ve seen a lot more ads lately that are advising people to “buy now before new pricing goes into effect” and “get yours now while supplies last.” And couple that with price increases anyone can see, and ongoing reporting on supply chain issues, and you get a low grade short-term panic buying trend.
The problem with economics is you always need to be looking at the bigger picture. Pull any statistic or figure out of context and examine it in isolation and you can interpret it any way you want. But once you examine it in the context of it being only part of a much bigger picture, what it actually shows you is happening can be very different than what looking at it all by itself might make you feel think. Because it’s all part of a complex system. One where there are no simple answers. Is four of a kind a good hand? All depends on what the other players at the table are holding. And who is bluffing better. Most of life works like that.
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