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I really like this amp. But why does an amp engineered these days produce such an amount of white noise/hiss when connected to a fullrange cab like my 70's all original 2x15 showman cab ? It's 48 years old grandpa, a dual showman reverb all tube top is producing less hf noise than this amp. When connected to my v3 410 rumble cab, it's o.k though with the tweeter disengaged.
I really love the v3 500 top beside of this issue.
Btw, no matter if it's connected with one of my bass guitars or not , it's just a steady noise floor.....
Anyone has the same impression ?

My guess would be that, back in the day, the Dual Showman's would know how to produce White Rabbit but, in today's digital world, it may be interpreted as White Noise. Again, that's just my guess...:bag::rolleyes:.

Edit: ...I am getting smaller...
 
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Not me. All my Rumbles are dead quite. Your vintage Fender 2x15 cabinet as good as it is, is a far cry from anything that would be called 'full range' in this day and age. Is it loaded with JBL D130F's? Loved those cabinets.
Hi Linnin,
Of course it's not fullrange meant in a technical way. But the 130 or 140s have an unbelievable high range frequency wise. Maybe because these speakers were designed to fit the needs of guitarist's as well.
Like I said before, my all original showman head, all tube 48 years old and professional maintained is producing less hf noise floor than my v3 500 top ? On the other hand, di-out, headphone-out are dead quite as well
No problem with my v3 410. But as I sometimes like to record and rehearse at home with the old jbl 130s loaded cab ( especially P's ) it's kind of annoying.
Best regards from Munich/ Bavaria
 
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My guess would be that, back in the day, the Dual Showman's would know how to produce White Rabbit but, in today's digital world, it may be interpreted as White Noise. Again, that's just my guess...:bag::rolleyes:.
Oh that's not funny (yes it is) :laugh: :roflmao: :laugh:
Anyway @Flipmuc is from Germany and he struggles with English. Welcome to the Fender Rumble Club @Flipmuc. It is a shame you are experiencing trouble.
Try this: With nothing plugged in, no bass and not even a speaker cabinet. Plug in your headphones only. Put all your controls at 12 o'clock (high noon), yes even your gain and master volume along with all EQ controls. All voicings OFF. Overdrive OFF. Do you hear hiss in your headphones? If yes, how much? A little would be normal operational noise. A lot would mean your amp needs repair. Lets start there.
 
Hi Linnin,
Of course it's not fullrange meant in a technical way. But the 130 or 140s have an unbelievable high range frequency wise. Maybe because these speakers were designed to fit the needs of guitarist's as well.
Like I said before, my all original showman head, all tube 48 years old and professional maintained is producing less hf noise floor than my v3 500 top ? On the other hand, di-out, headphone-out are dead quite as well
No problem with my v3 410. But as I sometimes like to record and rehearse at home with the old jbl 130s loaded cab ( especially P's ) it's kind of annoying.
Best regards from Munich/ Bavaria
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Cheers
 
On the other hand, di-out, headphone-out are dead quite as well
OK, now we are getting somewhere. Hiss can now be coming from two places, and usually it is the speaker cable. It is very unlikely to be the ICE Power amp, but if it is not the cable that's your culprit. I would also expect there to be a lot of RFI (radio frequency interference) in large cities.
 
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Oh that's not funny (yes it is) :laugh: :roflmao: :laugh:
Anyway @Flipmuc is from Germany and he struggles with English. Welcome to the Fender Rumble Club @Flipmuc. It is a shame you are experiencing trouble.
Try this: With nothing plugged in, no bass and not even a speaker cabinet. Plug in your headphones only. Put all your controls at 12 o'clock (high noon), yes even your gain and master volume along with all EQ controls. All voicings OFF. Overdrive OFF. Do you hear hiss in your headphones? If yes, how much? A little would be normal operational noise. A lot would mean your amp needs repair. Lets start there.
as I always try to improve my lousy English, please tell me more about the white noise / white rabbit thing.
Cheers
 
as I always try to improve my lousy English, please tell me more about the white noise / white rabbit thing.
Cheers

Your English is not lousy...I didn't even know you were from Germany!

Grace Slick, back then, sang "White Rabbit", a song about what some psychedelic drug users saw.

My joke (and it was meant to be a joke) was a connection between white noise and her White Rabbit, given the difference between analogue then and digital now.

Again, your English is great...
 
Your English is not lousy...I didn't even know you were from Germany!

Grace Slick, back then, sang "White Rabbit", a song about what some psychedelic drug users saw.

My joke (and it was meant to be a joke) was a connection between white noise and her White Rabbit, given the difference between analogue then and digital now.

Again, your English is great...
You (@SoulReflection) are a political spin doctor by trade aren't you? ;)
 
OK, now we are getting somewhere. Hiss can now be coming from two places, and usually it is the speaker cable. It is very unlikely to be the ICE Power amp, but if it is not the cable that's your culprit. I would also expect there to be a lot of RFI (radio frequency interference) in large cities.
I use the same speaker cable
And no, RFI sounds different from my experience, as well as the old showman should be more prone to that.
Still curious about the white rabbit white noise ? Some american slang ?
O.k late night over here....
Thanks for your help
 
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"Which Fender Rumble can handle the lowest impedance speaker load?"


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You (@SoulReflection) are a political spin doctor by trade aren't you? ;)

Nope, I looked it up on google. If you can't trust them, who can you trust?

Not political, I have no party leanings.

Too old to spin (rock, yes...spin, no).

Doctor...nope, barely made it through high school.

So, to answer your question, I am a non-political, unspinned and an un-doctored person
 

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