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Fender Rumble Club

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Jeremy Jones said:
Have not posted in a while but I had the pleasure of playing with up and coming Country Start Elizabeth Mary for a few big gigs. The biggest of all being that we opened for Clint Black at America's River Festival in Dubuque Iowa!!. As any of you know that have seen me post. I use a Rumble Studio stacked on top of a V3 Rumble 40!!! I connect these by going out the effects send from the Studio to the input of the V3. I found that setup on this site. This setup has worked so well for me this past year and it did not disappoint for this gig!!! The only thing that was weird is the FOH said it was the hottest signal that he has ever gotten from a bass. I have not had that complaint from any other FOH so I think it was a fluke or something on their end, but want to see if anyone has seen that from the XLR out. My setting are as follows.
Studio 40 I use preset 27 as it was set at the factory and run the volume around 12 o'clock on the V3 40 I run everything but the bass at 12: o'clock. Bass I have set at about 9. run out of the DI on the v3 to FOH. I do not engage any of the preset(vintage....)
Anyway wanted to get everyone's thoughts. I have included some pics and a link here so you can see what it sounded like.


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I always thought it was risking damage to put another amp into your amp's input. BUT OTOH, I have also heard of Rumblers connecting to 40s. (I always assumed there was an fx loop.) Maybe it's safe because it comes from the fx loop of the other amp? Hopefully another can clarify. (Paging @G-Dog , @JakobT !)

Either way that's a cool little rig you got there, enjoy!!
 
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CallMeAl said:
I always thought it was risking damage to put another amp into your amp's input. BUT OTOH, I have also heard of Rumblers connecting to 40s. (I always assumed there was an fx loop.) Maybe it's safe because it comes from the fx loop of the other amp? Hopefully another can clarify. (Paging @G-Dog , @JakobT !)

Either way that's a cool little rig you got there, enjoy!!
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The 100 was, as you correctly assumed, connected to the input of the 40 via Effects send. You can find my original post about it here:
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CallMeAl said:
Cool! I saw that Linnin didnt see anything wrong with the setup, so I guess that's golden. :cool: love how they stack so neatly too.

Also saw a few posts later some more talk about 2x100c! :woot:
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I was at a GC today(sorry). There was a 100 and a 200c next to each other. Picked them both up. One was a lot lighter than the other.:smug: Still love my 200c, but as Slim Pickens said in "Blazing Saddles", I'm gettin' too old for this[noun].
 
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CallMeAl said:
I always thought it was risking damage to put another amp into your amp's input. BUT OTOH, I have also heard of Rumblers connecting to 40s. (I always assumed there was an fx loop.) Maybe it's safe because it comes from the fx loop of the other amp? Hopefully another can clarify. (Paging @G-Dog , @JakobT !)

Either way that's a cool little rig you got there, enjoy!!
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Probably just have to be careful how much preamp gain you give the master amp so the signal isn't way hot when it gets to the slave amp's preamp.
 
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Jeremy Jones said:
... ... I use a Rumble Studio stacked on top of a V3 Rumble 40!!! I connect these by going out the effects send from the Studio to the input of the V3. I found that setup on this site. This setup has worked so well ... ... the FOH said it was the hottest signal that he has ever gotten from a bass. ... ... on the V3 40 I run everything but the bass at 12: o'clock ... ... run out of the DI on the v3 to FOH. ... ... wanted to get everyone's thoughts. ... ....
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CallMeAl said:
I always thought it was risking damage to put another amp into your amp's input. ... ... (Paging @G-Dog , @JakobT !)...!!
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Jeremy, it took some reading, re-reading, and reading again but, I think I found your problem. Since you're using the Studio preset(s) to send signal to the 40, and running the 40's Gain at 12, then 40 to FOH, the 40 may be putting too much gain into the signal to FOH. This is per the Rumble Talk (from a friend at Fender) on daisy chaining. It doesn't risk damage, alan, but does risk less-than-ideal sound or signal, per this case in point.

Jeremy, why not send FOH from the Studio's Post XLR Out? That should be the way to go, I would think. Your 40 can still use the Studio's left channel (mono) FX Send to it's input, then EQ to taste without affecting the FOH.

Hope this helps.
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GonePlaid said:
I was at a GC today(sorry). There was a 100 and a 200c next to each other. Picked them both up. One was a lot lighter than the other.:smug: Still love my 200c, but as Slim Pickens said in "Blazing Saddles", I'm gettin' too old for this[noun].
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He also said..." What in the Wide World of Sports is a-goin' on here?..." but I wont finish the sentence loll
 
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G-Dog said:
Jeremy, it took some reading, re-reading, and reading again but, I think I found your problem. Since you're using the Studio preset(s) to send signal to the 40, and running the 40's Gain at 12, then 40 to FOH, the 40 may be putting too much gain into the signal to FOH. This is per the Rumble Talk (from a friend at Fender) on daisy chaining. It doesn't risk damage, alan, but does risk less-than-ideal sound or signal, per this case in point.

Jeremy, why not send FOH from the Studio's Post XLR Out? That should be the way to go, I would think. Your 40 can still use the Studio's left channel (mono) FX Send to it's input, then EQ to taste without affecting the FOH.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks
I will give that a shot and see what happens next time... It just blows my mind that that little 40 wat could do that. But I am sure that I do not completely understand what the 40 wats effects
 
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G-Dog said:
Jeremy, it took some reading, re-reading, and reading again but, I think I found your problem. Since you're using the Studio preset(s) to send signal to the 40, and running the 40's Gain at 12, then 40 to FOH, the 40 may be putting too much gain into the signal to FOH. This is per the Rumble Talk (from a friend at Fender) on daisy chaining. It doesn't risk damage, alan, but does risk less-than-ideal sound or signal, per this case in point.

Jeremy, why not send FOH from the Studio's Post XLR Out? That should be the way to go, I would think. Your 40 can still use the Studio's left channel (mono) FX Send to it's input, then EQ to taste without affecting the FOH.

Hope this helps.
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Good math.
Definitely run the DI from the master amp. Only problem I could foresee is the low gain needed to not overdrive the second amp's preamp not providing a strong signal to the board. Sounds like a balancing act to me.
My bass is awful hot anyways. Doubt I'd be able to swing a rig like that successfully.
 
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TheMaartian said:
EDIT: Dubuque. Home of a McDonald's Monopoly winner! And W.C. Brown/McGraw-Hill (run by my ex in the 90s and 00s from Chicago). I've even been on the river boat!
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Are you talking about McGraw Hill the publisher?
I'm a college Spanish teacher and we're currently using one of their products (though admittedly, we're phasing them out and going back to a Vista Higher Learning text.-sorry!)

Also:
1. I love this chaining Rumble combos thing everyone is doing and
2. I ordered the MudStand-should be here Thursday.

I just wanted to combine all of my comments so I don't have too many different posts.
 
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LazerCrazer said:
... ... Only problem I could foresee is the low gain needed to not overdrive the second amp's preamp not providing a strong signal to the board. Sounds like a balancing act to me. ... ...
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If the the first amp (the Studio) is providing signal to the board it will not matter what gain you set on the second amp (the 40), as long as it sounds good through it's speaker. Yes, EQing is most definitely always a balancing act, sometimes easier than other times, but always needing balance.
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LazerCrazer said:
... ... My bass is awful hot anyways. Doubt I'd be able to swing a rig like that successfully.
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Sure, you could! Not that you would need to with a Stage 800! But, if you can work the Stage, you could easily chain it to another Stage, add a quartet of 210s and blast the house OUT!
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Aaron Houts said:
... ... I love this chaining Rumble combos thing everyone is doing ...
... ... so I don't have too many ... posts.
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There's no such thing! What's a few posts more or less in the almost 36,000 posts on this thread alone (with almost 2 million views!), much less on TB as a whole?
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G-Dog said:
Sure, you could! Not that you would need to with a Stage 800! But, if you can work the Stage, you could easily chain it to another Stage, add a quartet of 210s and blast the house OUT!
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It's crossed my mind lol.
The effects send and return on the larger amps open up a lot of options. I'd probably advise an 800HD as the second amp though since you already get the modeling from the stage and it's 2ohm so you get a fourth cab on that side for the drummer to sit on.
 
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G-Dog said:
If the the first amp (the Studio) is providing signal to the board it will not matter what gain you set on the second amp (the 40), as long as it sounds good through it's speaker. Yes, EQing is most definitely always a balancing act, sometimes easier than other times, but always needing balance.
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Sure, you could! Not that you would need to with a Stage 800! But, if you can work the Stage, you could easily chain it to another Stage, add a quartet of 210s and blast the house OUT!
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There's no such thing! What's a few posts more or less in the almost 36,000 posts on this thread alone (with almost 2 million views!), much less on TB as a whole?
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120501 on TBird Club(as I type this). No quotas/limits.:thumbsup:
 
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postalflunkie said:
I see everybody chaining their amps together and I wonder why fender doesn't offer a rumble line of powered speaker cabs. I remember back in the 80's running my amp into one of the slave 4x12 100watt Fender Rhodes cabs my high school had, sounded awesome.
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If the bass player buys the PA speakers they become powered cabs by default.
 
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