Fender Rumble Club

[Jughead6]

Matching dimensions, schmatching schmensions.

I really need an excuse to use all my Rumble gear at once in a giant pyramid: 115 cabinet + 210 cabinet powered by a Rumble 500 head (sitting behind the cabinets) topped off with a Rumble 100c.

Maybe I should also get a Rumble 40 and daisy chain it to the Rumble 100c and place it like a cherry on top.

That would be about 75" of silver-faced pyramidical bass glory.

Hmmmm....

 

[GonePlaid]

Question for you all,

I was just at a music store and came across a Fender Rumble 200. I was planning on getting a 500 but this one was too good of a deal to pass up.

Now that I’m at home, I’m having slight buyer’s remorse as I worry the 200 won’t be able to hold up in a loud band situation at a medium sized venue (without PA support). Its crazy loud here but its hard to tell without being in the actual situation.

For all of you veterans of the Rumble 200, how has it held up for you all? Do you need the 15” extension cab in that sort of situation? Does the 200 even work in that situation?

Thanks in advance!

Most of our gigs, the 200c is more than enuff, but out side I bring my 112 cab.

 

[dORSY]

 

[Kipp Harrington]

Which Fender Rumble cab makes the most sense with the 200?

The obvious one is the 115 but it kills me that it isn’t matching dimensions.

How is the Fender Rumble 210 cab with the 200?

Go with the R410

 

[Cardsfan_69]

Fellow Stage/Studio owners, what presets have you been digging and how has your experience been with making your own?

I have been starting out with the Clean Focus setting and tweaking to my ear.
Also the KB800 is a great place to start tinkering. I add a little compression for one setting then duplicate it and put just a tiny bit of OD and I mean a tiny bit to give it a little bite.
I have also found my 1989 Fender Power Jazz Special really likes the Rumble V3 Vintage setting.

 

[JakobT]

Which Fender Rumble cab makes the most sense with the 200?

The obvious one is the 115 but it kills me that it isn’t matching dimensions.

How is the Fender Rumble 210 cab with the 200?

Any Rumble cab you fancy will work well with the 200. They’ve all been engineered to work together, so you can mix and match with confidence.

 

[Aaron Houts]

Thanks. Funny, that’s the same one I was going to order. Yes... PLEASE let me know your thoughts on how it works for you.

So now we have to buy high pass filters?
I’m glad at least I have TB to tell me what to buy.
That’s what happened to me with modding my P5: I checked a NBD thread to find out that we had to get new bridges and that just opened the flood gates.

 

[Kipp Harrington]

So now we have to buy high pass filters?
I’m glad at least I have TB to tell me what to buy.
That’s what happened to me with modding my P5: I checked a NBD thread to find out that we had to get new bridges and that just opened the flood gates.

At least it’s not a $300 pedal.

 

[JakobT]

So now we have to buy high pass filters?
I’m glad at least I have TB to tell me what to buy.
That’s what happened to me with modding my P5: I checked a NBD thread to find out that we had to get new bridges and that just opened the flood gates.

Nah - we really don’t. I have no beef with those who have found tone nirvana with HPFs, but my basses and rig sound just fine as is.

 

[Aaron Houts]

At least it’s not a $300 pedal.

Oh I’m sure we’ll find one of those we need, too!

Nah - we really don’t. I have no beef with those who have found tone nirvana with HPFs, but my basses and rig sound just fine as is.

Okay, good!
I’m tired of saying “and that’s all I should really need” right before I start a new list of more stuff I need.

 

[GonePlaid]

Nah - we really don’t. I have no beef with those who have found tone nirvana with HPFs, but my basses and rig sound just fine as is.

+1

 

[GonePlaid]

Oh I’m sure we’ll find one of those we need, too!

Okay, good!
I’m tired of saying “and that’s all I should really need” right before I start a new list of more stuff I need.

 

[vancamp]

Fellow Stage/Studio owners, what presets have you been digging and how has your experience been with making your own?

I tend to run with only slight mods to either #1 (BASIC BASSMAN CLN), #7 (RUMBLE V3 VINTAGE), or #9 (DEEP RUMBLE) and store them backwards into #200, #199, #198, so I can twist the knob in either direction.

 

[Coot]

I have been wondering how many Rumblers use a HPF. I posted a thread for amp advice, and a lot of people recommended a HPF for my 100c to clean it up and cut boominess. Also mesa d800+ was mentioned several times, as it has a built in variable HPF. Other themes that came up were speaker efficiency and cab simulation.

IDK if that covers the "high end vs rumble" debate here, but seems like a common recommendation for any amp to make it work and sound better.

So... any HPF + Rumble users out there????

Yes. I have a Mesa WD-800,Subway 800+ and a Rumble 500 set-up( two.. 500/4 x 10 cabs and 500/head).. The cabs are a lot easier to deal with mud and boom -wise with the HPF ( and up off the floor). But as mentioned before price wise they are worth it. The Rumble head also sounds nice through a couple of 2x10 Ampeg svt SEALED cabs. The WD-800 does a good job paired with the two 4 x 10's (the Mesa WD has a Damping selector and HPF's ).I keep the horn off the cabs and plugged ONE port in each as well. HPF's are a boomy cab's best friend in head or pedal form..

 

[JakobT]

In the time I’ve been here on TB, Rumbles (and other amps as well) have often been described as muddy, boomy, or both.

I find that the words «boomy» or «muddy» are difficult to pin down. It’s all relative, a little bit like the using the word «short» to describe a haircut. It can mean anything from a buzz cut to shoulder length, depending on who you ask. It all depends on what you’re looking for to begin with, your frame of reference and the rest of your gear.

I’ve spent a fair bit of cash on stuff I thought I needed (often based on the well-meaning advice of fellow TB members) without stopping to think that their needs and frame of reference might be different from my own.

So now I’m trying to make things as simple as possible. My Rumbles are stock, and so are my basses, except for strings. I haven’t used my pedal board in months, I just plug straight into the amp, and it sounds great. I find it makes my life a lot easier, and considerably cheaper. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

 

[GonePlaid]

In the time I’ve been here on TB, Rumbles (and other amps as well) have often been described as muddy, boomy, or both.

I find that the words «boomy» or «muddy» are difficult to pin down. It’s all relative, a little bit like the using the word «short» to describe a haircut. It can mean anything from a buzz cut to shoulder length, depending on who you ask. It all depends on what you’re looking for to begin with, your frame of reference and the rest of your gear.

I’ve spent a fair bit of cash on stuff I thought I needed (often based on the well-meaning advice of fellow TB members) without stopping to think that their needs and frame of reference might be different from my own.

So now I’m trying to make things as simple as possible. My Rumbles are stock, and so are my basses, except for strings. I haven’t used my pedal board in months, I just plug straight into the amp, and it sounds great. I find it makes my life a lot easier, and considerably cheaper. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

I've always been a fan of the 60s/Jamerson sound, though I prefer to play Gibsons. I do EQ more hi-mids than that early tone but not a lot. AFA pedals? Here's my pedal board:

 

[nice_hat]

I was starting to feel like maybe my love for my rumble 500C+2x10 extension was just because I wanted to love it. I wanted to feel like I made the right choice in where to invest the bucks. I was doubting so much about my sound...
Well, I have to say I have been put back on the path of the true believer!

I showed up to an audition with my stack and my pedal board. The gig is a stoner-metal 3 piece, drummer and guitar are brothers. We did a few covers, and one of their originals that I had leaned.
I ran the cab with some mxr distortion, but kept it simple for the audition. I did really well, we clicked well, they invited to take the position (fun side note, we decided to brand this a new project: rename and relaunch rather than bringing me in as the bass player for their existing project, only bringing enough old material to get a set list while we write new... Anyway back to the amp).

so one of the things that I noticed during this audition was how boomy I sounded in the room that we were in. I'm already running an HPF/ LPF, but even though my tone was decent it just didn't sound "right".

Jump forward to a little while later we're doing another jam just me and the guitarist and now that we have some more experience together I want to start bringing out more the pedal board. As a 3-piece I'm taking up a lot of Sonic territory and am being encouraged to find the sound the fits. So rather than running just the dirt, I turn on my zoom b3n. instantly noticed that something is amiss. I have a signal line noise that will not go away. I tried turning off the horns, I try cutting all my treble. Nothing I do will get rid of the signal wine.

So I start troubleshooting the signal path, I'm old army signal corps so this is nothing new to me, isolate the wine coming from the zoom. I apologize to the guitarist and let him know that it's going to be another jam with just some dirt.

this had me really worried, I had a lot riding on the effects I have built in my zoom to do some of this Stoner Rock stuff. Now I know this is about the fender rumble, but this is what led me to rediscovering my love of the cab.

so after that jam session I go home and I open up TalkBass and the internet and start looking around for what could be wrong. Pretty quickly determine its likely a grounding issue. With this, I begin to devise a plan for my signal chain...

So I I am at the guitarist house yesterday, when I get there about an hour early so that I can have some time to mess with my signal chain (had left my cab and board at his house for convenience).

the end result of my trying things out is I am running from my Shure wireless pedal into my mxr dirt pedal into my zoom b3n out to my combo then using the effects loop to run the hpf LPF, with each getting the proper power to keep the signal clean. This gives me a lot of really cool options and puts the zoom (which is my whah) in between my mxr dirt and the overdrive channel, which lets me do some really cool effects stuff. It also puts the amp's EQ behind everything other than the hpf LPF so that I can adjust the cab for the room using its own EQ. I also spent some time really dialing in the hpf LPF, and I found that in the room I was playing in turning the cab towards the back corner gave a better overall Sonic experience that cut through better.

I got crazy props for how good I sounded yesterday as well as being able to incorporate the effects with no line noise. The rumble hits hard, sounds good, and keeps up with gorilla drummers. I'm in love with it all over again.

 

[Dennis Hamblin]

I liked the sound of my Rumble 500 combo that I purchased the matching 210 cabinet to pair with it for bigger venues. My bandmates really like the sound of the 500, much more than my BA-115.

 

[Kipp Harrington]

I was starting to feel like maybe my love for my rumble 500C+2x10 extension was just because I wanted to love it. I wanted to feel like I made the right choice in where to invest the bucks. I was doubting so much about my sound...
Well, I have to say I have been put back on the path of the true believer!

I showed up to an audition with my stack and my pedal board. The gig is a stoner-metal 3 piece, drummer and guitar are brothers. We did a few covers, and one of their originals that I had leaned.
I ran the cab with some mxr distortion, but kept it simple for the audition. I did really well, we clicked well, they invited to take the position (fun side note, we decided to brand this a new project: rename and relaunch rather than bringing me in as the bass player for their existing project, only bringing enough old material to get a set list while we write new... Anyway back to the amp).

so one of the things that I noticed during this audition was how boomy I sounded in the room that we were in. I'm already running an HPF/ LPF, but even though my tone was decent it just didn't sound "right".

Jump forward to a little while later we're doing another jam just me and the guitarist and now that we have some more experience together I want to start bringing out more the pedal board. As a 3-piece I'm taking up a lot of Sonic territory and am being encouraged to find the sound the fits. So rather than running just the dirt, I turn on my zoom b3n. instantly noticed that something is amiss. I have a signal line noise that will not go away. I tried turning off the horns, I try cutting all my treble. Nothing I do will get rid of the signal wine.

So I start troubleshooting the signal path, I'm old army signal corps so this is nothing new to me, isolate the wine coming from the zoom. I apologize to the guitarist and let him know that it's going to be another jam with just some dirt.

this had me really worried, I had a lot riding on the effects I have built in my zoom to do some of this Stoner Rock stuff. Now I know this is about the fender rumble, but this is what led me to rediscovering my love of the cab.

so after that jam session I go home and I open up TalkBass and the internet and start looking around for what could be wrong. Pretty quickly determine its likely a grounding issue. With this, I begin to devise a plan for my signal chain...

So I I am at the guitarist house yesterday, when I get there about an hour early so that I can have some time to mess with my signal chain (had left my cab and board at his house for convenience).

the end result of my trying things out is I am running from my Shure wireless pedal into my mxr dirt pedal into my zoom b3n out to my combo then using the effects loop to run the hpf LPF, with each getting the proper power to keep the signal clean. This gives me a lot of really cool options and puts the zoom (which is my whah) in between my mxr dirt and the overdrive channel, which lets me do some really cool effects stuff. It also puts the amp's EQ behind everything other than the hpf LPF so that I can adjust the cab for the room using its own EQ. I also spent some time really dialing in the hpf LPF, and I found that in the room I was playing in turning the cab towards the back corner gave a better overall Sonic experience that cut through better.

I got crazy props for how good I sounded yesterday as well as being able to incorporate the effects with no line noise. The rumble hits hard, sounds good, and keeps up with gorilla drummers. I'm in love with it all over again.

Great story and kudos to you for your patience and dedication to resolving that issue. These type of stories are so nice to hear. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Kipp Harrington]

I liked the sound of my Rumble 500 combo that I purchased the matching 210 cabinet to pair with it for bigger venues. My bandmates really like the sound of the 500, much more than my BA-115.

Nice looking setup. Rumble on!!!