...almost forgot to post this pic, RUMBLE on!!!
(one day I'll own a r500h or r800h)
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...almost forgot to post this pic, RUMBLE on!!!
(one day I'll own a r500h or r800h)
Sorry, moody, they's lotsa good stuff on the Wiki, ain't they? Can be distracting, too, I know.
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... So I just finished an experiment of my own, and these are my findings concerning the r40c not having a effects loop (my main concern was having sound coming from the combo, not that it would be a bad thing)
So, I 1st just ran the Direct out to the input of the Carvin, yep, worked just fine, combo speaker still makin' its sounds, all good. ...
Yep, assuming the Carvin works the same as the Rumbles, the Rumble XLR Out to the Carvin input is a perfectly fine way to go, shouldn't be any problem. The Carvin's EQ can overrule the Rumble's EQ, though.
Yep, I believe the only difference the Headphone jack has from the XLR Out is turning off the Rumble's speaker.
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I ran them both ways, one at a time of coarse, into the return of the Carvin amp, yep, it worked just fine, I'm happy
Again, assuming the Carvin works the same way as the Rumbles, the Carvin's Return will bypass it's pre-amp and, if like the Rumbles, will run the Carvin at full blast! You'll have to control the volume on the Rumble. Can you verify this is the case with the Carvin, muley?
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Both volumes seem to work, the Carvin master and Rumble master, a bit strange, it is workable though. The EQ from the r40c is what I want to hear out of the big stack.
I'm keeping all controls as flat as possible on the Carvin.
The Carvin Saturday sounded uninspiring, so my quest began.
I'm getting what I want and need from using the Direct Out and again, if I don't like the 10" added to the sound (if it makes much difference at all). All I will have to decide now is, do I want that added 10" in the mix,
...more experimenting to come
I'm keeping all controls as flat as possible on the Carvin.
The Carvin Saturday sounded uninspiring, so my quest began.
I'm getting what I want and need from using the Direct Out and again, if I don't like the 10" added to the sound (if it makes much difference at all). All I will have to decide now is, do I want that added 10" in the mix,
...more experimenting to come
To clarify: do both volumes seem to work when sending the Rumble's signal to the Carvin's Return?
That's not the way the Return on the modern Rumbles work. But it is the way my Bassman combos work, which is very convenient.
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Yes they both work, that is why I have to keep the Carvin's sound as flat as possible, so the Rumble sound shines thru, it's doable
Hey y'all, I need a practice at home cab (one that i can lift and move by myself...) and I curious on thoughts for the 115 or the 210 cabs for more aggressive musical genres. I haven't been able to find either cab locally here to me, but both combos with those speaker configs sounded good to me when I've messed around with em at GC or whatever.
I just got rid of an ancient 410 because I couldn't get it down the stairs of my apartment solo. So I'm also looking at the bassman neodymium speaker versions of these (as well as the GK flavors and so on) in addition to the Rumble flavors.
I think the rumble 210 is the one I'm most interested in if anyone has any experience with it.
Uh, for what its worth I play a lot of metal. sometimes jazz, often poorly. thanks!
I just got rid of an ancient 410 because I couldn't get it down the stairs of my apartment solo. So I'm also looking at the bassman neodymium speaker versions of these (as well as the GK flavors and so on) in addition to the Rumble flavors.
I think the rumble 210 is the one I'm most interested in if anyone has any experience with it.
Uh, for what its worth I play a lot of metal. sometimes jazz, often poorly. thanks!
I was at my town’s Porchfest music fest this weekend. (Read my full write up here!) But there was one Rumble-specific nugget I wanted to share:
I caught the last song of a great, high energy ska band. The bass sounded excellent, I had to get a closer look. First I spotted a very young woman, (possibly even a high school student) just tearing it up on a Mustang bass (old school Mustang pickups to boot!) I look at the Rig, and sure enough it’s a tiny but mighty Rumble 200h atop a Peavey cab (my best guess is it was a Headliner 210.) clean and punchy, yet warm and smooth.
Always great to see Rumble amps out in the wild, being used on stage, and hearing how freakin great they sound!
I caught the last song of a great, high energy ska band. The bass sounded excellent, I had to get a closer look. First I spotted a very young woman, (possibly even a high school student) just tearing it up on a Mustang bass (old school Mustang pickups to boot!) I look at the Rig, and sure enough it’s a tiny but mighty Rumble 200h atop a Peavey cab (my best guess is it was a Headliner 210.) clean and punchy, yet warm and smooth.
Always great to see Rumble amps out in the wild, being used on stage, and hearing how freakin great they sound!
My first thought when you talk about a “practice at home cab” is to get a small Rumble combo just for that. Something that’s super easy to pick up & move from music room to living room couch if you want unless you practice at loud volume.
However, if you’re after something to play in a metal band then you’re probably going to want the 210 and more.
I just recently picked up a Rumble 210 cab to go under my Stage 800 and it sounds great. The 210 cab also has the tweeter with the different settings, one of which is off.
I had to get the additional cab to keep up in a rock band setting with two, what I would call just normal loud, guitarists, keys, drums & vocals.
The Stage 800 on its own, sitting up on a chair, could be heard, but didn’t quite get the volume we needed. I didn’t have time to tweak settings much either. It was just a set up & play situation.
My point is that you “may” need more than one 210 or 15 if you’re used to the 410 volume you had. Good luck.
Hi, there, rutr! I'm a Rumble 500 combo & Bassman 500/115 Neo owner, so here's a few comments on those. You don't say what head you'll be using, so . . . .
The Rumble 210 and 115 weigh the same, 39 lb.s. I think either could get the tones you're looking for. I used to be a 115 fan, but the 210 combo gives me the fat (not muddy) lows I love, with a solid punch.
Alas the Bassman doesn't make a 210. But, the Bassman 115 Neo is a great cab. I
read where others hear it being so much more articulate, while delivering fat lows, than the Rumbles. But, honestly I don't hear that much difference. Although the driver is a Neo, with an extra 50 watts continuous rating, the cab is bigger, and about twice the price of the Rumble 115 and weighs 54 lb.s! But it comes with casters. Some say it's worth the extra cost and weight to them. Many say otherwise.
Of course YMMV, but I like the Rumble 210 in this category. Besides being good for practice, it can help tremendously in performance. Good luck!
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Agree totally with your advice! Also, that you, also, may need two 210 cabs!!! Yep, the Rumble Stage 800 combo can drive two 8 ohm cabs. Six 10s at 800 watts will "crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and let you hear the lamentations of their women."
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Hiya rutrho.
I agree with everything everyone said above. If all you want is a practice amp, there's a bunch of Rumbles that can serve as that.
If you want something that will allow you to be heard in a metal band, that's a different story. I play in a bunch of situations. Last weekend I did a gig with a hard rock/metal cover band (Whitesnake, AC DC, some Metallica, Maiden and so forth). I played through my Rumble 500 combo and a Rumble 210. It is essentially a 500 watt amp through 4 10inch speakers. It sounded great and I heard myself easily, this rig packs a wicked punch. Easy to carry as each piece is somewhere around 39 lbs each. If it's too heavy, you can also get a hand truck.
Now with metal, a lot depends on how wild the band gets. There could be situations where this setup isn't enough. But in my experience, this will cover most situations where great sound is needed and where the band is actually trying to hear each other. If your guitarists and drummer's objective is to drown you out, probably no rig will solve that problem.
Good luck, let us know what you decide!
John
Yeah, this is pretty much going to be a live-at-home cab and sometimes drag it out to smaller not metal/rock things where I don't want to dig my 115 peavy out. I have a Rumble 500 head and picking up another cab isn't out of the question, but it wouldn't live up in my apartment.
Right on, thanks! I have a Rumble500 head and I've liked it a lot playing through whatever I've been able to get my hands on.
My favorite so far is a 115 and a 410, wooohooo! Total blast. I might to dig into the 210, then as it sounds like it'll work a little better with another cab.I also have a old af Peavy TKO 115 thats my main at home practice amp that I modded to add speaker bypass so I run it as an 8ohm cab and it also has a power amp in, so sometimes that got used with my old 410. It was awesome.
Good to know about the Bassman 115, that is a bit on the large side and borders on stuff i can't move on my own, hah.
Stairs suck.
Agree totally with your advice! Also, that you, also, may need two 210 cabs!!! Yep, the Rumble Stage 800 combo can drive two 8 ohm cabs. Six 10s at 800 watts will "crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and let you hear the lamentations of their women."
Stuff gets pretty wild, but this is pretty much a stay at home thing (hopefully) so getting another cab to live at the practice space isn't out of the question, but I gotta have something I can get upstairs at home!
My partner was getting tired of me asking for help getting my 410 up and down the stairs and into the back of my jeep and i was pretty frustrated at the general lack of being able to move it, so where we are! LOL
I'm really leaning towards the 210 at this point as it fits the size I need at home and i can like, move it, plus it'll work well with another cab when I decide to dig up a used 115 or something.
Sounds like the 210 will fit the bill nicely. It's a relatively easy carry, but can pack a solid punch when required Too bad Fender no longer makes the 112 cab, although in fairness you would have had to be careful, as it was only rated at 250 watts continuous.
I <3 my r100c for that reason!
I know its not a cab, but kind of cheap, plenty for home practice and has the same preamp as the 500. You can always daisy chain Your rumbles, so if You stack it "on top" or in between really the 500 and the cab You use anyways, it could work flawlessly.
Question. I have a Fender Rumble 500c and the last two practices I have gotten some distortion that my guitarist describes as a "wet burrito fart." After checking my shorts I realized it was coming from my amp. First though was a bad chord but that didn't fix the issue (which is intermittent). I turned of the "Vintage" button and the amp sounded fine. I'm fairly new to this amp but could this be an issue with the module or do I have a setting wrong such as too much gain?
remember, the vintage button gives your signal a lot more low mid. It could possibly be whats making your sound fart out in higher volume.
First, set all controls flat, and turn off all voicings, and see if the problem goes away. If not, check your cable and all connections. Are you using an active bass? If you are, check your battery. If the problem persists and the distortion is showing up intermittently, I would contact a Fender authorized service center, and have them look at it. I’ve had a similar problem with my Rumble 40.
Thanks. Yes, I have an active bass and the first thing I did was change the battery. Then went with another chord and even plugged directly into the amp bypassing my tuner. I am going to play with the settings a bit. The distortion only come into play with vintage on and a more resonating note. I should have payed more attention to which note, I believe it was the low "C" on the "A" string that seemed to trigger it.
