Fender Rumble Club

[KevinMG]

Guys, I still can't decide whether to pick rumble 40 or 25 for my G&L L2500 tribute (5 strings). Can u please advise? I will mainly use it with headphone, since I lived in a small apartment. I tried 25, but with a cheaper 5 strings bass in the store (Cort GB75, I think). Will it be sounded significantly better too on 40, if playing it with the headphone? The price gap quite much in my country. But if it is significantly better, I may pick that 40. Sadly, there was no stock in the store I visited to test it by myself. I may order it online somewhere.

If you'll be playing mainly through headphones, be aware that the Aux input sums to mono on the 25, but remains a straight pass (unaltered) stereo signal on the 40 and above models. I mainly practice through headphones so this is important to me. The 40 will keep your music input true to source. Personally I find when the signal is summed to mono you lose the sound stage, lose the detail of instrument fidelity, and no longer feel inside the music. But that's me and my ears and I'm willing to pay extra for that. So I would suggest going with the 40 so you have a good practice tool that's easy to move around and could even work with a small low volume band situation. You'll be impressed by the 40, especially with the 5 string. Good luck!

 

[G-Dog]

If you'll be playing mainly through headphones, be aware that the Aux input sums to mono on the 25, but remains a straight pass (unaltered) stereo signal on the 40 and above models. I mainly practice through headphones so this is important to me. The 40 will keep your music input true to source. Personally I find when the signal is summed to mono you lose the sound stage, lose the detail of instrument fidelity, and no longer feel inside the music. But that's me and my ears and I'm willing to pay extra for that. So I would suggest going with the 40 so you have a good practice tool that's easy to move around and could even work with a small low volume band situation. You'll be impressed by the 40, especially with the 5 string. Good luck!

Very good point, Kevin!! For headphone practice that makes a big difference! I am an admitted stereo-holic and would be very disappointed to lose that from my Aux In. It can be seen very clearly on a comparison of the block diagrams. Thanks, again, for sharing that.

The Rumbles 40 thru 500 have a Stereo Headphone Amplifier . . . .

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. . . . While the Rumbles 15 and 25 do not!

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Does anyone see any other significant differences between the Rumbles 25 and 40? I'd like to compile them all into a single post to be linked on the Rumble Club Wiki page.
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[G-Dog]

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Oh, and, @KevinMG! Please show us a pic of your Rumble(s?) and get a distinctive Rumble Club membership number in return. We'd like to continue to benefit from your keen observations and hear of the resolution of the Aux-induced volume loss on your new Rumble 40.
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[Kijekuyo]

Thanks all, for the advise. Looks like rumble 40 still the winner here. I still need to find local store that have it to test the sound. Or.. Go wild n order it from local online store. Then I broke. LOL.

I'm a pretty thrifty person, and I don't regret for a MOMENT getting the 40 over the 25.

 

[bhendrix]

Rumbled with just a bit more air today!

And it sounded awesome! Mo air - mo better!

 

[bhendrix]

Thanks everyone!
This was my first time recording

First of many hopefully!

 

[CallMeAl]

Anyone have the speaker sensitivity and frequency response specs for the v3 112 cabinet? @G-Dog ?

 

[G-Dog]

Anyone have the speaker sensitivity and frequency response specs for the v3 112 cabinet? @G-Dog ?

Now, Alan, you've been around here long enough to know that Fender doesn't publish that information.

(Pssst! Where you been, Mr. Loomis? You get an avatar transplant and now you're in the witless protection program? Don't worry, Rumbler #981, your secret is safe with me. But don't call me Betty!)
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[CallMeAl]

Now, Alan, you've been around here long enough to know that Fender doesn't publish that information.

(Pssst! Where you been, Mr. Loomis? You get an avatar transplant and now you're in the witless protection program? Don't worry, Rumbler #981, your secret is safe with me. But don't call me Betty!)
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Haha, I didn’t bother to look at the current manuals, but I know I couldn’t find the 112 manual and I thought I’d check here!

It’s interesting, some manufacturers publish both specs, some publish one and not the other... and some publish neither!

Just trying to make an educated guess if that cab will match a non-Fender cab.

now, back to the cave!

 

[bhendrix]

Haha, I didn’t bother to look at the current manuals, but I know I couldn’t find the 112 manual and I thought I’d check here!

It’s interesting, some manufacturers publish both specs, some publish one and not the other... and some publish neither!

Just trying to make an educated guess if that cab will match a non-Fender cab.

now, back to the cave!

Since I recently acquired one and like you noted, there is no PDF manual on the 112 v3 - I reached out to Fender to get more information. Got a response from Jason Garbinski and said there was no manual available, but he sent me the following information....


Jason Garbinski (Fender)

Aug 19, 2020, 10:13 AM MST

Hello Bob,

Thanks for writing in.

Here are the specs for the Rumble 112 V3 Cab:

Description: RumbleTM 112 Cabinet V3
Part Number: 2380000000
Series: RumbleTM Series
Type: Speaker Enclosure
Output: N/A
Power Handling: 700 watts (Program), 350 watts (Continuous)
Speakers: 1-12" 8ohm Eminence® Ceramic Magnet Speaker, P/N 5550117335,
1 Compression Tweeter with 3-Position with Full/Off/-6dB Switch P/N 5550029131
Ohms: 8 ohms
Channels: N/A
Features: Classic Fender® Styling,
One 1/4", One Speakon Input Jacks,
Two Recessed, Steel Bar Handles,
Dual Front Tube Ports,
Upgraded Compression Tweeter,
Patented Magnetic Rumble Head Attachment System,
Removable Front Grille
Controls: N/A
Tube Compliment: N/A
Covering: Black Textured Vinyl with Silver Grille Cloth
Dimensions: Height: 18.5" (47.0 cm)
Width: 19" (48.3 cm)
Depth: 14" (35.6 cm)
Unit Weight: 31 lb (14.1kg)
Shipping Weight: 71 lb.
Cover:
Footswitch:
Accessories: None
U.S. MSRP: $299.99
Source: Indonesia
Specs: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice

I hope this helps!

Regards,

Jason Garbinski
Consumer Relations /U.S. Direct Sales Representative
Fender Musical Instruments Corp.
17600 N. Perimeter Drive, Suite 100 Scottsdale, AZ 85255

So I questioned the 700 watts program and 350 continuous as sounding like 210 cab specs He did respond and apologized for the error - it's 500 watts program and 250 continuous - but I already knew that. No biggie - it's all good! But sorry I have no information on frequency response or sensitivity either...
Oh yea - and shipping weight?? 71 lbs?? That must be for the two pack!

 

[Polish Thunder]

Very good point, Kevin!! For headphone practice that makes a big difference! I am an admitted stereo-holic and would be very disappointed to lose that from my Aux In. It can be seen very clearly on a comparison of the block diagrams. Thanks, again, for sharing that.

The Rumbles 40 thru 500 have a Stereo Headphone Amplifier . . . .

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. . . . While the Rumbles 15 and 25 do not!

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Does anyone see any other significant differences between the Rumbles 25 and 40? I'd like to compile them all into a single post to be linked on the Rumble Club Wiki page.
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Besides the controls (volume, bass, mid, treble + overdrive button) on the 25 versus (gain, bass, low mid, high mid, treble, volume + bright, contour, vintage buttons + overdrive button with drive and level controls) on the 40, which I believe is what is also on the Rumble 100, 200, and 500.

The other thing to note is the Rumble 25 has an 8" speaker versus a 10" in the 40.

BTW, I have a Rumble 500 Head which has similar controls to the 40 and I also have a Rumble 25...

 

[Freeze Andy]

Not sure if i am posting using the right protocols, but here goes. If i am wrong please please direct me to doing things the right way.
hi guys, this is my first post and hopefully not the last.
I am an aussie living in thailand. I built a small studio a few years back but getting serious with it now.
My bass is a 20 yr old fender precision with a jazz neck. I upgraded the bridge and now run seymour duncan pick ups. It has great sustain. James jameson is god, lol.
Being an active bass player, naturally the first thing you do is join a band. Early this year i bought a rumble 40, based on lots of reviews. It was only meant for my studio. Most clubs here have backline gear so just rockup and plug in. But not all. I joined up with some friends a few months back doing lots of parties and small ish clubs. The 40 has been up to it surprisingly well. Until the last gig, that is. Smallish outdoors for a birthday bash. I had to turn the bass eq down to zero to get anyware near the levels required. So i have been looking at my options. Hence my dilema/question.
Keep the 40 and buy a 100 to piggyback or go straight to a 200. The 40 +100 is a hope its enough compared to the 200 which i know will be enough. The appeal of two combos is that i can gig the 100 and leave the studio set up until its required as an extra. The appeal of the 200 is the 15". I will qualify my needs by stating up front, dont quote american or australian prices, it dont work here. The prices we pay here can be eye watering, lol. Yes i have looked at other combos but once you pickup a rumble 40, you can never go back.........lol

 

[mcclurer16]

Wow it looks like Gene is using his tongue like a plectrum

The Rumble 15, 25 & 40 differ from each other by the contols, and tone flexibility, they have.

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The Rumble 15 has only 4 basic controls for Volume, Bass, Mid & Treble. It does have an Aux In and Phones output and that's all. It's the bare minimum stuff for a bargain basement price.

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The Rumble 25 has a couple of extras above the 15. In addition to the basic controls for Volume, Bass, Mid & Trebke, it has an Overdrive button and a Contour button for more tone voicing. When the Overdrive is on it adds distortion to the tone and increasing the Volume control increases the distortion. When the Contour is on it provides a mid-cut "fat" tone for various uses, including low volume practice, but there is no adjustment for it. You can use either, or both, buttons as you like. The only I/O is Aux In and Phones out.

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The Rumble 40 is the smallest Rumble amp to have the full controls as the larger, more expensive, Rumble amps, adding a Gain control, Vintage voicing button, Drive & Level controls for the Overdrive, replacing the Mid with Low Mid & High Mid controls, and a Master volume control. The Aux In and Phones out are moved to the back where there is also a Footswitch connection (footswitch not included) to turn the Overdrive on & off, and a balanced XLR Out with Ground Lift switch for connecting to a PA or recording system.

I hope this overview can help shoppers decide on the model they want/need.
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Thanks G-dog. Very helpful!

 

[JakobT]

Not sure if i am posting using the right protocols, but here goes. If i am wrong please please direct me to doing things the right way.
hi guys, this is my first post and hopefully not the last.
I am an aussie living in thailand. I built a small studio a few years back but getting serious with it now.
My bass is a 20 yr old fender precision with a jazz neck. I upgraded the bridge and now run seymour duncan pick ups. It has great sustain. James jameson is god, lol.
Being an active bass player, naturally the first thing you do is join a band. Early this year i bought a rumble 40, based on lots of reviews. It was only meant for my studio. Most clubs here have backline gear so just rockup and plug in. But not all. I joined up with some friends a few months back doing lots of parties and small ish clubs. The 40 has been up to it surprisingly well. Until the last gig, that is. Smallish outdoors for a birthday bash. I had to turn the bass eq down to zero to get anyware near the levels required. So i have been looking at my options. Hence my dilema/question.
Keep the 40 and buy a 100 to piggyback or go straight to a 200. The 40 +100 is a hope its enough compared to the 200 which i know will be enough. The appeal of two combos is that i can gig the 100 and leave the studio set up until its required as an extra. The appeal of the 200 is the 15". I will qualify my needs by stating up front, dont quote american or australian prices, it dont work here. The prices we pay here can be eye watering, lol. Yes i have looked at other combos but once you pickup a rumble 40, you can never go back.........lol

I’d say go straight to the 200, or even the 500. That will give you the muscle required for most gigs, and you can leave your 40 in the studio.

 

[jdshimkoski]

Not sure if i am posting using the right protocols, but here goes. If i am wrong please please direct me to doing things the right way.
hi guys, this is my first post and hopefully not the last.
I am an aussie living in thailand. I built a small studio a few years back but getting serious with it now.
My bass is a 20 yr old fender precision with a jazz neck. I upgraded the bridge and now run seymour duncan pick ups. It has great sustain. James jameson is god, lol.
Being an active bass player, naturally the first thing you do is join a band. Early this year i bought a rumble 40, based on lots of reviews. It was only meant for my studio. Most clubs here have backline gear so just rockup and plug in. But not all. I joined up with some friends a few months back doing lots of parties and small ish clubs. The 40 has been up to it surprisingly well. Until the last gig, that is. Smallish outdoors for a birthday bash. I had to turn the bass eq down to zero to get anyware near the levels required. So i have been looking at my options. Hence my dilema/question.
Keep the 40 and buy a 100 to piggyback or go straight to a 200. The 40 +100 is a hope its enough compared to the 200 which i know will be enough. The appeal of two combos is that i can gig the 100 and leave the studio set up until its required as an extra. The appeal of the 200 is the 15". I will qualify my needs by stating up front, dont quote american or australian prices, it dont work here. The prices we pay here can be eye watering, lol. Yes i have looked at other combos but once you pickup a rumble 40, you can never go back.........lol

Personally, I think you should just go with the 40 for studio, 200 for live, so you’ll know that you’ll be covered, and the 200 really is a wonderfully beautiful sounding amp.

I think if you go the 40 + 100 route you’ll always wonder if you should have just gone with a little more. Its always better to have a little more headroom than not (although, I’ve heard that the 100 can sound a smidge more focused than the 200 but that’s debatable and it doesn’t have the headroom).

That said, the the GAS for more can sometimes be a bit of a delusion. Haha. For example, I myself had a 200 and wanted more, more, MORE POWER. So, I ended up with the Rumble 800 HD and a Rumble 410... which is amazing but probably way more than I’ll ever need (and that cab is super heavy).

Now, I need to get the Rumble 115 cab because I miss its sound and light weight. (The 200 really has a beautiful sound to it, I think that’s the magic of a 15”, and 39 lbs vs 63 lbs is a dramatic difference when lugging gear around).

So, just to reiterate, get the 200 and keep the 40 for the studio. You won’t regret it.

 

[mcclurer16]

Personally, I think you should just go with the 40 for studio, 200 for live, so you’ll know that you’ll be covered, and the 200 really is a wonderfully beautiful sounding amp.

I think if you go the 40 + 100 route you’ll always wonder if you should have just gone with a little more. Its always better to have a little more headroom than not (although, I’ve heard that the 100 can sound a smidge more focused than the 200 but that’s debatable and it doesn’t have the headroom).

That said, the the GAS for more can sometimes be a bit of a delusion. Haha. For example, I myself had a 200 and wanted more, more, MORE POWER. So, I ended up with the Rumble 800 HD and a Rumble 410... which is amazing but probably way more than I’ll ever need (and that cab is super heavy).

Now, I need to get the Rumble 115 cab because I miss its sound and light weight. (The 200 really has a beautiful sound to it, I think that’s the magic of a 15”, and 39 lbs vs 63 lbs is a dramatic difference when lugging gear around).

So, just to reiterate, get the 200 and keep the 40 for the studio. You won’t regret it.

Jdshimkosky:

I agree with everything that you said here. A small Rumble (for me a 25) works fine for practice. For rehearsal and gigs the 200 head and 115 cab turns out to be enough. But this I figured out after a GAS purchase of a 500c a while back. The 500 is more than I need, but the headroom and the watts are great to have.

 

[KevinMG]

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Oh, and, @KevinMG! Please show us a pic of your Rumble(s?) and get a distinctive Rumble Club membership number in return. We'd like to continue to benefit from your keen observations and hear of the resolution of the Aux-induced volume loss on your new Rumble 40.
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Most unfortunately it is going back to Sam Ash today. Fender got back to me and confirmed it’s not normal, and suggested returning it if I was in the window. So we’ll see if they have another in stock. This was the floor model. So it might have to wait.

I got it for the family room since I’ve been watching a lot of live streams. Figured it might be good to get me practicing more. Sounds great and was really impressed with how it sounded using a Pork & Pickle overdrive in front of it.

 

[Freeze Andy]

Jdshimkosky:

I agree with everything that you said here. A small Rumble (for me a 25) works fine for practice. For rehearsal and gigs the 200 head and 115 cab turns out to be enough. But this I figured out after a GAS purchase of a 500c a while back. The 500 is more than I need, but the headroom and the watts are great to have.

Well i decided to bight the bullet. My 40 is on the market and then i will be shopping for a 200. Why is it we know what we want yet procrastinate? I could go a 500 but honestly, i would never use it here. Its only the out doors parties that is an issue. Inside my 40 would be ok. For rehearsals or studio work its the real job. For most bars and clubs the 100 would be more than enough but fortunately most of these places already have backline gear in place so its walk up and plug in, no lugging gear at all.
Sure its not always top notch but hey, you gotta roll with what's there, part of the experience of learning to maximise what you got. I did manage to max out the 40 on the last gig by turning the bottom end right down and playing higher up the neck, so you can do pretty amazing things with a 40 when the need arises, lol

 

[G-Dog]

Not sure if i am posting using the right protocols, but here goes. If i am wrong please please direct me to doing things the right way.
hi guys, this is my first post and hopefully not the last.
I am an aussie living in thailand. I built a small studio a few years back but getting serious with it now.
My bass is a 20 yr old fender precision with a jazz neck. I upgraded the bridge and now run seymour duncan pick ups. It has great sustain. James jameson is god, lol.
Being an active bass player, naturally the first thing you do is join a band. Early this year i bought a rumble 40, based on lots of reviews. It was only meant for my studio. Most clubs here have backline gear so just rockup and plug in. But not all. I joined up with some friends a few months back doing lots of parties and small ish clubs. The 40 has been up to it surprisingly well. Until the last gig, that is. Smallish outdoors for a birthday bash. I had to turn the bass eq down to zero to get anyware near the levels required. So i have been looking at my options. Hence my dilema/question.
Keep the 40 and buy a 100 to piggyback or go straight to a 200. The 40 +100 is a hope its enough compared to the 200 which i know will be enough. The appeal of two combos is that i can gig the 100 and leave the studio set up until its required as an extra. The appeal of the 200 is the 15". I will qualify my needs by stating up front, dont quote american or australian prices, it dont work here. The prices we pay here can be eye watering, lol. Yes i have looked at other combos but once you pickup a rumble 40, you can never go back.........lol

Welcome, Freezey, to TalkBass in general and to The Rumble Club in particular. Looks to me like you engaged all the proper protocols just fine. Sound friendly, give introduction, ask politely, be open to different answers. You sure you've never posted on social media before? Seem like a pro!

Well, Andy, you've already got some good opinions. I'll just add that I went the full Rumble 500 combo 'cause my bands were fairly loud. Since then I've moved and play more acoustic jams, so I got a Rumble Studio 40 for that. So, you really have to be your own judge of your power needs.

Just be aware that the Rumble 200 & 500 combos don't output their full power without an extension cab connected. The 200 is 140 watts alone, which isn't always enough. And the 500 is 350 watts alone, which is almost always more than enough. See the Rumble Summary Info chart on the Rumble Club Wiki page, linked in my signature, for comparisons.

I hope you continue to relate your adventures in Thailand. Maybe @Killed_by_Death will drop in to visit with you about that. Good luck.
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[Freeze Andy]

Guys i am in Chiang Mai and the thai musos kick ass. There are plenty of places to play and you would be warmly welcomed. Most places you dont even need to bring a guitar.

Yes i did read about the 140w/200 conundrum. As an early pioneer in spk enclosure design, i get the modern take on power and spl levels. I am pretty certain that when i plonk an E string, a 15" with 140 behind it is going to deliver, lol. Going by the 40's abilities, i am confident the 200 will be quite at home. Mind you, a marshall quad box would be........heaven but then i would want 500w, hahahaha

I honestly question the rational for more and more power but then, i watch clips of glen hughs, sorry deep purple, with the massive bank of amps and the thought of earth shaking rumbles as he moves up and down makes me dribble with envy. Just listen to those massive clean lines on Burn live at the rainbow. Those W bins are crap on their own but tie a bunch together and wow, you would feel those sinewave. I digress but its nice to know there is a bass heaven.