Fender Rumble Club

[GonePlaid]

I guess I did’t realize the Gain affected the signal without the Overdrive engaged, just assumed it was out of tje circuit unless the switch was engaged. I will have to play with it. I currently tend to use that and the footswitch like GP, a mute....

The GAIN knob(1st on the left)"adjusts the incoming signal", so with an active bass it would be like preamping* a preamped signal; the GAIN in the OD circuit only adjusts the gain in the OD. It doesn't affect the overall sound unless OD is ON.
*EDIT: repreamping?

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Classic... Maybe you had to be there...

I wish

 

[Black Out Jazz]

The GAIN knob(1st on the left)"adjusts the incoming signal", so with an active bass it would be like preamping* a preamped signal; the GAIN in the OD circuit only adjusts the gain in the OD. It doesn't affect the overall sound unless OD is ON.
*EDIT: repreamping?

Wasn't someone rerepreamping the other day?

 

[GonePlaid]

Wasn't someone rerepreamping the other day?

Many(sigh), many, many, many.

 

[G-Dog]

I guess I did’t realize the Gain affected the signal without the Overdrive engaged, just assumed it was out of tje circuit unless the switch was engaged. I will have to play with it. I currently tend to use that and the footswitch like GP, a mute....

The Rumble Talks section of our Rumble Club Wiki page has a great description of the Rumble Gain control, which is unlike most others.
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[JPDsma]

The GAIN knob(1st on the left)"adjusts the incoming signal", so with an active bass it would be like preamping* a preamped signal; the GAIN in the OD circuit only adjusts the gain in the OD. It doesn't affect the overall sound unless OD is ON.
*EDIT: repreamping?

Oh, yes. I should be looking at my amp when I respond these days....I usually have the Gain around 10-11

 

[GonePlaid]

Oh, yes. I should be looking at my amp when I respond these days....I usually have the Gain around 10-11

GAIN 9-10 with my passives, 8 or less with the active. OD always OFF. VINTAGE always ON/IN.

 

[BBassBassington]

Oh, yes. I should be looking at my amp when I respond these days....I usually have the Gain around 10-11

I find 12 to be where my passives would start getting some compression.

I really like just having it completely dialed back. Put the vintage and OD on (off for my BTB because it's got way too much power for this) and it's very old school and tube-like. Just a thick but still defined chunk off bass goodness with a tiny sprinkle of spice on top.

 

[juancaminos]

Yeah I read that and I get the Gain structure…maybe. The Rumble gain knob functions differently that what I'm used to. Even with the gain all the way down the Audere preamp seems to be a lot for the Rumble. I find that need to have the Audere tone controls at detent or slightly cut. Otherwise the sound gets harsh. The Audere volume is best left at 3:00 max. At first I just didn't like the sound of the Rumble 500 but was playing thru all pre amp basses. So I decided to take a step back and play thru the only stock bass I have. That's when things got settled and much better.


Every bass amp that I've owned with a Gain knob has zero input (no sound) with the knob turned all the way down. The exceptions are my mixing boards where the gain gets cut but never to the point of zero input in which case the gain acts as a variable pad. So there is a something weird about the Rumble gain which seems to act like a variable gain with a whole bunch of other stuff mixed in.


I just did an A/B comparison with my Eden WT 400 (which sounds great thru the Rumble 115 cabinet btw), the Rumble and a Yamaha MG 166cx mixing board. The Eden gain lets no signal thru when at zero while the Rumble and Yamaha do.


The Eden doesn’t care what you plug into it active or passive. My active bass tone controls accentuate the treble and bass thru the Eden while still sounding warm and musical. The passive bass tone controls do very little in comparison. However increasing the active treble control sounds less musical and harsher thru the Rumble even with the gain off. The same happens thru the mixing board via head phones or thru an amp/speaker no matter where the gain is set. The active bass control gets too bassy and looses articulation via the Rumble and mixer. Which causes me to think that the Rumble circuitry must use some similar electronics to somehow keep the cost down?


The above was done with a passive Jazz Bass and a Custom built Jazz with Barts and an Audere three band pre. To be fair I also tried my 77 Jazz with Dimarzios and a J Retro pre. It fared better. Then I tried a newer Jazz bass with an EMG JVX set up, it’s the mellow one of the active basses. That bass actually did the best of the active basses thru the Rumble. I still had to stay away from Treble and bass extremes but I always do anyway.


In the end the Eden sounded best with the J Retro and fairly good with Audere where the Rumble sounded best with the EMG or passive bass. I have for years preferred the piano string brightness I can get from the Eden with active basses. Now I have the Rumble which is different, I am not knocking it any way at this point (I know I did at first). Just like everything else it is different and I have to get acquainted to it by doing these little experiments. The Audere was new to me at that same time the Rumble was new to me. In the end I think I like the Rumble more that the Audere. So I may make some changes with that particular bass particular.


Thanks for always listening…

 

[Black Out Jazz]

Yeah I read that and I get the Gain structure…maybe. The Rumble gain knob functions differently that what I'm used to. Even with the gain all the way down the Audere preamp seems to be a lot for the Rumble. I find that need to have the Audere tone controls at detent or slightly cut. Otherwise the sound gets harsh. The Audere volume is best left at 3:00 max. At first I just didn't like the sound of the Rumble 500 but was playing thru all pre amp basses. So I decided to take a step back and play thru the only stock bass I have. That's when things got settled and much better.


Every bass amp that I've owned with a Gain knob has zero input (no sound) with the knob turned all the way down. The exceptions are my mixing boards where the gain gets cut but never to the point of zero input in which case the gain acts as a variable pad. So there is a something weird about the Rumble gain which seems to act like a variable gain with a whole bunch of other stuff mixed in.


I just did an A/B comparison with my Eden WT 400 (which sounds great thru the Rumble 115 cabinet btw), the Rumble and a Yamaha MG 166cx mixing board. The Eden gain lets no signal thru when at zero while the Rumble and Yamaha do.


The Eden doesn’t care what you plug into it active or passive. My active bass tone controls accentuate the treble and bass thru the Eden while still sounding warm and musical. The passive bass tone controls do very little in comparison. However increasing the active treble control sounds less musical and harsher thru the Rumble even with the gain off. The same happens thru the mixing board via head phones or thru an amp/speaker no matter where the gain is set. The active bass control gets too bassy and looses articulation via the Rumble and mixer. Which causes me to think that the Rumble circuitry must use some similar electronics to somehow keep the cost down?


The above was done with a passive Jazz Bass and a Custom built Jazz with Barts and an Audere three band pre. To be fair I also tried my 77 Jazz with Dimarzios and a J Retro pre. It fared better. Then I tried a newer Jazz bass with an EMG JVX set up, it’s the mellow one of the active basses. That bass actually did the best of the active basses thru the Rumble. I still had to stay away from Treble and bass extremes but I always do anyway.


In the end the Eden sounded best with the J Retro and fairly good with Audere where the Rumble sounded best with the EMG or passive bass. I have for years preferred the piano string brightness I can get from the Eden with active basses. Now I have the Rumble which is different, I am not knocking it any way at this point (I know I did at first). Just like everything else it is different and I have to get acquainted to it by doing these little experiments. The Audere was new to me at that same time the Rumble was new to me. In the end I think I like the Rumble more that the Audere. So I may make some changes with that particular bass particular.


Thanks for always listening…

Thanks for posting the details, man.

 

[BBassBassington]

Yeah I read that and I get the Gain structure…maybe. The Rumble gain knob functions differently that what I'm used to. Even with the gain all the way down the Audere preamp seems to be a lot for the Rumble. I find that need to have the Audere tone controls at detent or slightly cut. Otherwise the sound gets harsh. The Audere volume is best left at 3:00 max. At first I just didn't like the sound of the Rumble 500 but was playing thru all pre amp basses. So I decided to take a step back and play thru the only stock bass I have. That's when things got settled and much better.


Every bass amp that I've owned with a Gain knob has zero input (no sound) with the knob turned all the way down. The exceptions are my mixing boards where the gain gets cut but never to the point of zero input in which case the gain acts as a variable pad. So there is a something weird about the Rumble gain which seems to act like a variable gain with a whole bunch of other stuff mixed in.


I just did an A/B comparison with my Eden WT 400 (which sounds great thru the Rumble 115 cabinet btw), the Rumble and a Yamaha MG 166cx mixing board. The Eden gain lets no signal thru when at zero while the Rumble and Yamaha do.


The Eden doesn’t care what you plug into it active or passive. My active bass tone controls accentuate the treble and bass thru the Eden while still sounding warm and musical. The passive bass tone controls do very little in comparison. However increasing the active treble control sounds less musical and harsher thru the Rumble even with the gain off. The same happens thru the mixing board via head phones or thru an amp/speaker no matter where the gain is set. The active bass control gets too bassy and looses articulation via the Rumble and mixer. Which causes me to think that the Rumble circuitry must use some similar electronics to somehow keep the cost down?


The above was done with a passive Jazz Bass and a Custom built Jazz with Barts and an Audere three band pre. To be fair I also tried my 77 Jazz with Dimarzios and a J Retro pre. It fared better. Then I tried a newer Jazz bass with an EMG JVX set up, it’s the mellow one of the active basses. That bass actually did the best of the active basses thru the Rumble. I still had to stay away from Treble and bass extremes but I always do anyway.


In the end the Eden sounded best with the J Retro and fairly good with Audere where the Rumble sounded best with the EMG or passive bass. I have for years preferred the piano string brightness I can get from the Eden with active basses. Now I have the Rumble which is different, I am not knocking it any way at this point (I know I did at first). Just like everything else it is different and I have to get acquainted to it by doing these little experiments. The Audere was new to me at that same time the Rumble was new to me. In the end I think I like the Rumble more that the Audere. So I may make some changes with that particular bass particular.


Thanks for always listening…

Good stuff. That is the one thing I always enjoy about major gear changes, all that experimentation. Enjoy!

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Wasn't someone rerepreamping the other day?

Which puts us all posteerepreamping.

 

[GonePlaid]

Which puts us all posteerepreamping.

Ummm, ahem?

 

[GonePlaid]

Yeah I read that and I get the Gain structure…maybe. The Rumble gain knob functions differently that what I'm used to. Even with the gain all the way down the Audere preamp seems to be a lot for the Rumble. I find that need to have the Audere tone controls at detent or slightly cut. Otherwise the sound gets harsh. The Audere volume is best left at 3:00 max. At first I just didn't like the sound of the Rumble 500 but was playing thru all pre amp basses. So I decided to take a step back and play thru the only stock bass I have. That's when things got settled and much better.


Every bass amp that I've owned with a Gain knob has zero input (no sound) with the knob turned all the way down. The exceptions are my mixing boards where the gain gets cut but never to the point of zero input in which case the gain acts as a variable pad. So there is a something weird about the Rumble gain which seems to act like a variable gain with a whole bunch of other stuff mixed in.


I just did an A/B comparison with my Eden WT 400 (which sounds great thru the Rumble 115 cabinet btw), the Rumble and a Yamaha MG 166cx mixing board. The Eden gain lets no signal thru when at zero while the Rumble and Yamaha do.


The Eden doesn’t care what you plug into it active or passive. My active bass tone controls accentuate the treble and bass thru the Eden while still sounding warm and musical. The passive bass tone controls do very little in comparison. However increasing the active treble control sounds less musical and harsher thru the Rumble even with the gain off. The same happens thru the mixing board via head phones or thru an amp/speaker no matter where the gain is set. The active bass control gets too bassy and looses articulation via the Rumble and mixer. Which causes me to think that the Rumble circuitry must use some similar electronics to somehow keep the cost down?


The above was done with a passive Jazz Bass and a Custom built Jazz with Barts and an Audere three band pre. To be fair I also tried my 77 Jazz with Dimarzios and a J Retro pre. It fared better. Then I tried a newer Jazz bass with an EMG JVX set up, it’s the mellow one of the active basses. That bass actually did the best of the active basses thru the Rumble. I still had to stay away from Treble and bass extremes but I always do anyway.


In the end the Eden sounded best with the J Retro and fairly good with Audere where the Rumble sounded best with the EMG or passive bass. I have for years preferred the piano string brightness I can get from the Eden with active basses. Now I have the Rumble which is different, I am not knocking it any way at this point (I know I did at first). Just like everything else it is different and I have to get acquainted to it by doing these little experiments. The Audere was new to me at that same time the Rumble was new to me. In the end I think I like the Rumble more that the Audere. So I may make some changes with that particular bass particular.


Thanks for always listening…

My Rumbles are the only bass amps I've ever played through where I hafta cut bass from noon. That's OK, just a whole buncha different. I generally start with tone at 10/2/2/10 and tweak from there depending on room acoustics, etc. The knobs do move, contrary to some folk's thoughts on that.

 

[ratdoc]

The buzz is definitely coming from the amp housing. You really hear it well from the rear of the combo, and pressing in slightly in the right spot makes it stop. No complaints though, for the price I paid I expected there to be quite a few issues, but that is the only thing I have found. Otherwise, it is in perfect condition.

Had the same issue on a R100 where the amp panel met the cabinet. Just pulled the amp and tightened things up with a couple of thin small self-adhesive rubber pads. No problems now.

 

[Katoosie]

I got a new cab and amp, its not rumble though
Eventually, Ill have to leave this club but for now... Rumble on!

 

[G-Dog]

I got a new cab and amp, its not rumble though
Eventually, Ill have to leave this club but for now... Rumble on!

You may leave The Club, Kat, but The Club never leaves you! Your Rumble number remains yours in perpetuity.

Fender Rumble Club
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[Moody Tuner]

My Rumbles are the only bass amps I've ever played through where I hafta cut bass from noon. That's OK, just a whole buncha different. I generally start with tone at 10/2/2/10 and tweak from there depending on room acoustics, etc. The knobs do move, contrary to some folk's thoughts on that.

I always turn the bass knob down on my Rumble 500C / extension cab combo too. I can't ever imagine a situation where I would need to turn it past noon.

My preferred setting is to not have any of the presets engaged. I can never get the vintage setting to sound good - it's always too bass-y for me and in theory - that should be my favorite setting! I always find that I can get the "good tone" quickest without any of the contour options engaged. I could probably find my sweet spots with the other settings, if I sat down and explored them, but I've been too lazy to go into that process.

In general though, I think the Rumbles sound great as a plug in and play amp. You really don't have to tweak them much to sound great. They just sound great!

 

[GonePlaid]

I always turn the bass knob down on my Rumble 500C / extension cab combo too. I can't ever imagine a situation where I would need to turn it past noon.

My preferred setting is to not have any of the presets engaged. I can never get the vintage setting to sound good - it's always too bass-y for me and in theory - that should be my favorite setting! I always find that I can get the "good tone" quickest without any of the contour options engaged. I could probably find my sweet spots with the other settings, if I sat down and explored them, but I've been too lazy to go into that process.

In general though, I think the Rumbles sound great as a plug in and play amp. You really don't have to tweak them much to sound great. They just sound great!

Yeah, i may try leaving the VINTAGE out at Friday's gig-just to see/hear. I usually need the BRIGHT for this room.

 

[BBassBassington]

The only time I go past noon on the bass is when I have nothing engaged and I'm using a pick. Then I just push it up off the detent. Maaaybe a little more if the OD isn't thick enough. What I find funny is Fender gave us +15dB on the bass knob and the vintage button. Maybe that's how they figured they'd get people to buy new cabs. They hope we crank the bass, push in the vintage, and blow our minds and our speakers with bass. Then do it all over again.