Is this sock addition thing used to enhance tone or to reduce unwanted noise/vibration? Are there any pictures around? I'm not sure I see exactly what is being done.
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I don't recall anyone taking a picture of a "sock in a port", since it's in the nature of a temporary experiment. Also as such, it's not necessarily a sock, either, but whatever acoustic-looking material you might have on hand. Sorry, I don’t have any more specifics about the "how to". I've heard of it more as a possible cure for "boxy sound", but I guess it might also possibly help dampen some unwanted vibrations. Just something to approximate some intermediate point(s) between a fully ported and a fully sealed cab.
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I see no problem using a sock provided it is a clean one.I don't recall anyone taking a picture of a "sock in a port", since it's in the nature of a temporary experiment. Also as such, it's not necessarily a sock, either, but whatever acoustic-looking material you might have on hand. Sorry, I don’t have any more specifics about the "how to". I've heard of it more as a possible cure for "boxy sound", but I guess it might also possibly help dampen some unwanted vibrations. Just something to approximate some intermediate point(s) between a fully ported and a fully sealed cab.
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Unless yer tryin' to get a little 'dirt' in yer tone.
This might help, Fender Rumble v3 40 - First Impressions - Astrosonic's Reply #15. No pics, but he explains his experimentations.
As for lining, Joann Fabrics or similar has bags of polyester batting in the quilting section. you can get sheets or a bag that looks like steel wool in poly; either one works.
As far as I know, these ports are also used in speakers and monitors, called bass reflex. It can be front or back. Helps avoid unwanted resonance from the cabinet. Avoiding coloured sound, and thus providing a more neutral and transparent sound. It's best to have a frontal port when you have the cabinet/speaker/monitor close to a wall.I don't recall anyone taking a picture of a "sock in a port", since it's in the nature of a temporary experiment. Also as such, it's not necessarily a sock, either, but whatever acoustic-looking material you might have on hand. Sorry, I don’t have any more specifics about the "how to". I've heard of it more as a possible cure for "boxy sound", but I guess it might also possibly help dampen some unwanted vibrations. Just something to approximate some intermediate point(s) between a fully ported and a fully sealed cab.
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Interesting you say this about a "frontal port when you have the cabinet/speaker/monitor close to a wall". Some JBL monitors have rear ports which are supposed to work with a wall behind. My experience with them was bad. Maybe I had the wrong kind of wall? I sent them back and work with front ports only.
I laughed at "wrong kind of wall", but perhaps the material or density of the wall makes a difference.
If you are placing them really close to a wall or a corner (even worse), as we usually do with studio monitors, then it's even more important to have frontal port.
Hahaha. Certain materials will absorb better certain frequencies depending on their density. I not sure there is such thing as a wrong kind of wall but acoustics play an important part of the sound inside you studio, rehearsal space etc
Front vs Rear Ported Speakers - Which One Is Better?
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Mine is a corner installation which is why my inexpensive front ported monitors sounded much better....lesson learned and the JBLs were returned.
Ok Rumbers, I need some help. I have an R40 which I love. However, I purchased some new basses that push this amp a bit too much. I don't necessarily need more volume, just more clarity and fullness. I am only playing at home, but not worried about size or cost. I am leaning towards the R800 due to the low power mode. Should I be looking at the R200? Your thoughts?
The R800c as a stand alone, puts out 100W in low power mode. If you're playing only at home and want a bit more headroom, I would suggest the R100c and save yourself several hundred $$.
However, I'm a bit fuzzy on the part about your basses pushing the R40 too hard. Are they active basses? If so, you may find turning the gain down a bit (or a lot) may clean up the clarity and give you a bit more volume capability before gritting up. I use a R40 in my studio (passive Fender basses, primarily) and Master at 3 o'clock and is PE-LUNTY loud for the house.
But whatever you do, don't let me talk you out of a R800c. You can NEVER have TOO much....
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Ha! Agreed! Really looking to get more clarity from Stingrays and Rick.The R800c as a stand alone, puts out 100W in low power mode. If you're playing only at home and want a bit more headroom, I would suggest the R100c and save yourself several hundred $$.
However, I'm a bit fuzzy on the part about your basses pushing the R40 too hard. Are they active basses? If so, you may find turning the gain down a bit (or a lot) may clean up the clarity and give you a bit more volume capability before gritting up. I use a R40 in my studio (passive Fender basses, primarily) and Master at 3 o'clock and is PE-LUNTY loud for the house.
But whatever you do, don't let me talk you out of a R800c. You can NEVER have TOO much....
Tim
The R800c as a stand alone, puts out 100W in low power mode. If you're playing only at home and want a bit more headroom, I would suggest the R100c and save yourself several hundred $$.
However, I'm a bit fuzzy on the part about your basses pushing the R40 too hard. Are they active basses? If so, you may find turning the gain down a bit (or a lot) may clean up the clarity and give you a bit more volume capability before gritting up. I use a R40 in my studio (passive Fender basses, primarily) and Master at 3 o'clock and is PE-LUNTY loud for the house.
But whatever you do, don't let me talk you out of a R800c. You can NEVER have TOO much....
Tim
Yo, Biggie, Rumbler #1257!
- Turn the Gain Off! , as Tim-may! alluded to. Yeah, some amps can't make a sound that way, but the Rumbles are just fine without it.
- Also, make sure the Overdrive is Off.
- Next, turn the Bright, Contour and Vintage voices all Off. The Contour adds a bass & treble boost, and the Vintage adds dark harmonics.
- Finally, set the EQ to actual flat settings, approximately 10, 2, 2, 10 for B, Lm, Hm, T.
If none of that works, then you definitely need the new 800! combo (that you were the first to announce here, thankyouverrymuch!!!). No two ways about it, Big! I see you are "only playing at home", but since you're "not worried about size or cost", why not go for the gusto!! 2x10" Neo speakers? Plenty of headroom? Even more headroom in full power mode?!? The lightest big Rumble combo of all? And, by most accounts, the most hi-fi Rumble of all? What's not to love?
The R100 would really be just a little baby step up from the R40, with still no cab lining (though you could add your own). And the R200 might be Ok, I guess, if you can't afford more, more, more!!!
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See? That was the answer I needed! I was really between the 200 and 800, but every time I try the 800 it just sounds so full…even n low power mode!Yo, Biggie, Rumbler #1257!
Yes, that may give a fairly blah tone, but it should take your new pushy basses much better. Then you can try adding back some, or all, while listening for that annoying push and balancing out whichever seems to cause the problem.
- Turn the Gain Off! , as Tim-may! alluded to. Yeah, some amps can't make a sound that way, but the Rumbles are just fine without it.
- Also, make sure the Overdrive is Off.
- Next, turn the Bright, Contour and Vintage voices all Off. The Contour adds a bass & treble boost, and the Vintage adds dark harmonics.
- Finally, set the EQ to actual flat settings, approximately 10, 2, 2, 10 for B, Lm, Hm, T.
If none of that works, then you definitely need the new 800! combo (that you were the first to announce here, thankyouverrymuch!!!). No two ways about it, Big! I see you are "only playing at home", but since you're "not worried about size or cost", why not go for the gusto!! 2x10" Neo speakers? Plenty of headroom? Even more headroom in full power mode?!? The lightest big Rumble combo of all? And, by most accounts, the most hi-fi Rumble of all? What's not to love?
The R100 would really be just a little baby step up from the R40, with still no cab lining (though you could add your own). And the R200 might be Ok, I guess, if you can't afford more, more, more!!!
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Oh, so you've actually tried the R800c?!? Well, from your history, quoted above, and the phrasing of your question, I suspected that you were just needing help with the justification, not in actually making the decision.
Let us know when you get it home. .
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Friends, it is with a heavy heart that I commend our Fellow Rumbler, Ron Thompson, aka Ronzo, #919, to that Great Stage In The Sky, where "you know they have a hell of a band". I'm doubly grieved that it took me so long to find out, since he died on Father's Day this year. Thanks to Rumble Brother @Giffro for bringing me more up to date.
Ronz was quite a prolific, and very positive and helpful, poster here in The Club. He was a very special and encouraging gentleman with a great sense of humor. He is missed. Rest in peace, brother.
Friends, it is with a heavy heart that I commend our Fellow Rumbler, Ron Thompson, aka Ronzo, #919, to that Great Stage In The Sky, where "you know they have a hell of a band". I'm doubly grieved that it took me so long to find out, since he died on Father's Day this year. Thanks to Rumble Brother @Giffro for bringing me more up to date.
Ronz was quite a prolific, and very positive and helpful, poster here in The Club. He was a very special and encouraging gentleman with a great sense of humor. He is missed. Rest in peace, brother.
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I am very, very sorry to hear this, and I had wondered where Ronzo was. I enjoyed his posts both here on TB and another instrument forum in which I participate. He was very helpful, supportive, and came up with some of the funniest one-liner posts I've read anywhere. Very, very sad news. RIP Ronzo.
