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Fender Rumble Club

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Gee Phil said:
So I've heard and like Kansas music and I've heard Pat Travers music but not really listened to it.
I was thinking of the low end like: Jack Bruce (Cream), Mel Schaerer (Grand Funk Railroad), John Paul Jones (Led Zeppelin).
The 12's will carry the lows that deep where you can feel it your bones and still get some mids and clarity out of two combined?
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I dunno, maybe not. From where I sit, the low end from the 12s is more about punch than oompf, the latter what i think you want. More speaker area might be a better fit for you, although having said that I can get some serious low end from my 12's. I had the combo paired with a second 210 cab, and that gave a serious amount of low end, and that might be more up your alley. I'm more about midrange.
Mars Cowling:

 
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Gee Phil said:
Gentlemen I want to apologize,. I forgot that I had approached this subject about what Rumble speakers would be best for low end and mid punch back in the latter part of June this year. I'm getting ready finally to pull the trigger and get me a pair of Rumble cabs to start with during the next two weeks. Then eventually/possibly get another pair to add down the line for a total of 4 Rumble cabs to go with the two heads I have rated at 2 ohms each. One is 600 watts and the other is 900 watts. But honestly I think just the pair I get now will probably be all that I need. Thanks for the inputs. I'll contact you all again when I get them. Then I can have "Linnin" assign me a number. :)
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One of the things I noticed along the way is that the new "Rumble" sound we all talk about seems to come mostly from the amp/head. I've found the cabs rather benign in their tone, however, whenever I put the head on top of other cabs the sound is still there. just sayin...
 
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i used my new rumble 410 at a live show for the first time last night. i left my tube amp at home and brought my Ampeg b2r. since this cab is 8ohms i only got 200 watts out of the ampeg. i usually run it with a 4ohm carvin cab and when i do it runs at 350 watts, and i gotta say, the fender impressed me! i thought i was going to have to run the amp with the volume maxed out but i only had it set to about 1 or 2 o'clock in the dial. the room had awful acoustics but the bass really cut through. i may end up having to sell my carvin now!
 
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Gee Phil said:
I've looked at the Fender website and I can't find any frequency specs on any of the cabs.
Would you know why they don't?
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Yes, Fender doesn't publish those specs for several reasons. One is to deter 'shopping by number'. Just like wattage ratings anyone can make up a good or great set of specs and put 'em 'out there'. It happens a lot. There is a lot of way over rated product out on the market with fraudulent specs.

Fender cabs are tuned to 40Hz and the tweeters go up to 18kHz. All Fender cabs are purely capable of reproducing a low E fundamental no problem and will handle the low B with deft aplomb.
 
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Outstanding!!!
Now I'm really suffering from GAS just waiting.
OK now I'm wondering if I should go with the Rumble 210 and 115.
If I get that combination then I could always lie the 210 on it's side so it'll be the same dimension as the 115.
Now the question is, should I put the 210 under the 115 or vice versa for best results?
 
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Yes, a pair of 115's.
I figured for the price and they have compression tweeters, that should do the trick.
I figure with the Carvin 900 watt head and/or the Acoustic B600H head I could use those cabinets with no problem.
At 4 ohms the Carvin puts out 600 watts, the Acoustic puts out 450 watts.
So they're almost a perfect match and I don't have to worry about phase differences.
 
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Gee Phil said:
Yes, a pair of 115's.
I figured for the price and they have compression tweeters, that should do the trick.
I figure with the Carvin 900 watt head and/or the Acoustic B600H head I could use those cabinets with no problem.
At 4 ohms the Carvin puts out 600 watts, the Acoustic puts out 450 watts.
So they're almost a perfect match and I don't have to worry about phase differences.
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I honestly think you'd be happier with a Rumble head going into those new cabs. I've both of those heads, for me they suck compared to a Rumble 500. The Carvin (one of those older 1000W models with the red knobs and a graphic): did nothing but let out the Magic Smoke. I have unfond memories of the Smoke wafting from the graphic slots.
The Acoustic: is it one of the older ones? I recall it as very midrangey, even for me. If one of the newer ones, I found them to be noisey. But if you like it, more power to ya. Just be sure and compare a Rumble 500 head in the mix and tell us all we're crazy. :-) What I like about the Rumble 500: It responds quickly like a solid state head (which it is,) but has the meat of a tube amp, if you want that. And it fits in a large gig bag pocket.
 
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Thanks for the advice "bdplaid"
The Carvin is one of the new B1000 heads and I used it when I had a couple of Carvin speakers before I sold them.
One was a BR118 and the other was a BR210.
I also had the chance to use the Acoustic B600H with those speakers too and it worked well.
Both amps and speaker combos reproduced low frequencies very well.
I had thought about the Rumble 500 head but I've read about scratchy pots on them.
There's a GC and Grandma's Music in Albuquerque.
I could try the Rumble 500 head at those two places.
 
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Gee Phil said:
Thanks for the advice "bdplaid"
The Carvin is one of the new B1000 heads and I used it when I had a couple of Carvin speakers before I sold them.
One was a BR118 and the other was a BR210.
I also had the chance to use the Acoustic B600H with those speakers too and it worked well.
Both amps and speaker combos reproduced low frequencies very well.
I had thought about the Rumble 500 head but I've read about scratchy pots on them.
There's a GC and Grandma's Music in Albuquerque.
I could try the Rumble 500 head at those two places.
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You're welcome.
Scratchy pots... meaning no disrespect, but puhleeze... that's a 10 second fix from the guy in the back with a squirt of D5. Mine both have a scratchy master vol and i don't give it a second thought. maybe replace them someday, maybe not. It's no big deal. I have a soldering iron and not afraid to use it.

And remember these Rumbles ALL have a 5-year warranty. I had a couple of cosmetic issues with mine and both Sam Ash and Fender were all over it; Fender even gave me some free stuff for my trouble. great CS!

And if all you know are the carvin cabs, you are in for one hell of a good surprise from the Rumbles. The Carvins that I know are less than forthcoming with the meat. Whereas, my drummer said he thought one of my 112 cabs was the best sounding bass cab he ever heard. That a SINGLE 112, and a drummer saying it. of course, it was me playing, so there's that... :-)
 
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I'm good with a soldering iron.
Sounds like really good customer service from Sam Ash, no let me rephrase that, "GREAT SERVICE"
I must admit, the Carvin cabs didn't impress me and they were heavy.

But Hey, You were playing through the 112 cab and that's a great compliment coming from the drummer.
How does that saying go?
"We're not worthy, We're not worthy"
:-)
 
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