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A little history here. I recently started attempting to learn six string piccolo bass (often referred to as "guitar", but I don't know it that word is considered offensive here on Talkbass). One of my friends was selling his son's Squier Strat, so even though I had two acoustic guitars (one steel string, one nylon string), but I thought this might be a good investment. I am not really ready to seriously shop for a guitar amp. Furthermore, I know that many guitar players like bass amps. I was reading the amp forum at The Gear Page and saw a thread about solid state amps that had a tube vibe or some such thing. One of the posters posted a pictures of the settings he used on a Rumble 100 with his guitar. Another poster stated that this made sense because a Rumble sounds like a Bassman. I tried it on my Rumble 40 and even with my limited skills, got some GREAT tones. I like the OD better for my Strat than for my basses.
I guess I can put off guitar amp shopping until I actually know how to play.
I guess I can put off guitar amp shopping until I actually know how to play.
Be sure to pull the grill off your combo and using a flashlight through one port look through the other to see if you have any of the white acoustic treatment material that Fender uses in some units. If you can't really tell, then pull a woofer out for further investigation.
I don't want your question to get overlooked. There are quite a few members with the V3 Rumble 410. Run a search on this thread and see what pops up.
Will do. I'm an excessive tinkerer. I love trying stuff like this. Seems easy enough to undo. See what kind of improvement/changes it makes, if any, with my Upright and fretless tapewounds on my electric.
Is there a brand you recommend for the acoustic material?
2x10 extension arrived today. Hooray!
Very nice!! I'm thinking of doing the same thing, but also considering getting the 1x15 extension cabinet instead....did you consider that?
It was my main consideration until the 2x10 cabinet was released, since the surface area of a 15 is pretty close to that of 2x10's. Combining a 2x10 with a 1x15 will typically result in a timbre and SPL mismatch. My honest opinion is that someone should commit to 10's, 12's, or 15's for a particular rig and only mix if you really have to.
If you like the sound of 15's, then grab the R500 head and buy 15" cabs. If you like the best of both worlds, look into the 12's.
Understand that the above is entirely subjective, and others will have their own equally correct opinions. Adding a 15 to a V3 combo will still make sound, and will likely still sound very good. I'm also certain that a well engineered 2x10 + 1x15 combo can perform well if it is engineered to do so.
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I'm also not a fan of mixing drivers of different sizes. However the old adages about driver sizes and their characteristics don't always apply anymore so who knows. I am using 2 115 cabs but I probably could have used 2 112 cabs and be just as happy. I didn't care for the sound of the 210 in this series and didn't get a chance to try the 112 before buying. I was using a Genz Benz 212 before this and the 2 115 compares favorably.
So, I finally could try my new Rumble 200 combo with my band (I had to wait 2 weeks since I bought it !!! It was looooong !), and I have to say : waoooooh ! It sounds really great.
We're 4 : a guitarist, a drummer, a singer and me. We play modern rock covers and the drummer likes to be well heard, and my Rumble didn't have any problem of volume.
The sound was clear and punchy. Nice low end, not boomy at all.
I am very happy
My set up was P Bass with nickel rounds, pick and finger style. I tried the Vintage setting but it was too boomy in that room, so I kept it disengaged. Gain at 12, Bass at 11, Low mids at 12, High mids at 1 and Treble at 10, with the tweeter off. No overdrive : I wanted to hear the Rumble clean.
Very nice tone indeed. I like it a lot
The integrated Compressor and HPF are great features.
We're 4 : a guitarist, a drummer, a singer and me. We play modern rock covers and the drummer likes to be well heard, and my Rumble didn't have any problem of volume.
The sound was clear and punchy. Nice low end, not boomy at all.
I am very happy
My set up was P Bass with nickel rounds, pick and finger style. I tried the Vintage setting but it was too boomy in that room, so I kept it disengaged. Gain at 12, Bass at 11, Low mids at 12, High mids at 1 and Treble at 10, with the tweeter off. No overdrive : I wanted to hear the Rumble clean.
Very nice tone indeed. I like it a lot
The integrated Compressor and HPF are great features.
Indeed. What we do know is that the SPL output scales differently from one size to another. If the SPL graphs lines up all the way through the usable-volume range of the head, you're good. Otherwise you end up with a rig that sounds great at medium volume, but horrible at low or high volume (etc). Using matched (size, brand, efficiency) speakers ensures that there's no mismatch.
I'll see if I can dig up the data sheets for the eminence drivers, but ultimately, this is one of those things that nobody really needs to lose any sleep over other than the fidelity-geeks among us.
Unless you have some inside contacts at Eminence or Fender, the specs for the V3 Rumble drivers are closely held 'trade secrets'. I wish you good hunting.
I agree. In some rooms the Vintage is indeed too much. Other rooms it is great. Glad you enjoy yours. I have only had my 100 out lately. I miss taking my 200, but I haven't needed it at the last couple places.
It's always possible to contact Eminence and ask what is the most similar speaker they sell.
I did it for the external 15" I want to use with my Rumble 200 and they answered me fast. I don't how accurate the speaker they suggested me is with the real Fender one but I guess it shouldn't be too far.
Yes the vintage setting is nice but in an already resonating room in the 100/200 area I felt it wasn't working well. Without it and by rolling off a bit the highs I kept a very nice and bassy tone.
I am really amazed by the clean tone of this amp when I always used to feel the need of extra dirt with my previous rig.
And even with "only" the 200 model without extension cab, I was asked 2 times to lower my volume (by the way, I put it on a small bench so it have helped regarding the good diffusion of the sound).
I feel the gain control acts a lot on the compression effect. And as the compressor is nice, setting the gain at 12 pleased my ears : compression is there without denaturing the tone.
Linnin and TICO107 makes my gas worse, now I want to skip the ext cab 112 or115 with my 200c and go for the500c. BTW- I ain't saying nothing to my guitar players when I decide and purchase either,hope they will still like me lol.Or be nice and go ext cab(for now)
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On my own I find the concept of the 200c with an external cab very appealing: light and modulable with the ability, I guess, to push serious volume.
I'll order my speaker and tell you how it sounds
I'll order my speaker and tell you how it sounds
+1,I did try to a/b the 112 vs the 115 with the 200c but too many slappers at gc at the time.the sales rep said he preferred the 112 for several reasons,such as less boomy,faster disperse,ect.will also let you guys know if I decide on the 112 and how it mates with the 200c. thanks.
If you are definitely going to buy one or the other at your GC, I would get with the store manager and make arrangements for a private audition either in the morning just before they open, or just after they close. They should be willing to accommodate you for a sure sale.
