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FIFA World Cup 2014

In terms of guys on the national team, it's about 14, (including AC Milan, Inter Milan, and Manchester United players,) which is 14 more than they had 20 years ago, when their pro league was founded. Progress Titus--there is such a thing.

There are also Albanians, Austrians, Belarusians, Bolivians, Bulgarians, Estonians, Georgians, Guyanans, Icelanders, Israelis, Jamaicans, Latvians, Moroccans, Peruvians, Senegalese, Slovenians, Tunisians, Venezuelans and Zimbabweans.

I suppose those nations are in with a shout too, eh?
 
There are also Albanians, Austrians, Belarusians, Bolivians, Bulgarians, Estonians, Georgians, Guyanans, Icelanders, Israelis, Jamaicans, Latvians, Moroccans, Peruvians, Senegalese, Slovenians, Tunisians, Venezuelans and Zimbabweans.

I suppose those nations are in with a shout too, eh?

Then why ask me the question? The point is the progress being made. How many players do Austria and Bulgaria have in those leagues? Are they more than they had 10, 20, 30 years ago? Baby steps, Titus... baby steps.
 
Then why ask me the question? The point is the progress being made. How many players do Austria and Bulgaria have in those leagues? Are they more than they had 10, 20, 30 years ago? Baby steps, Titus... baby steps.

It just seems to me that you think whilst you make your baby steps, the front runners aren't also moving forward too.

It's a perpetual game of catch up.

Of course those nations are further ahead than they were 10, 20, 30 years ago, but they - like the US - are still a million miles from putting out the best eleven footballers in the world.
 
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And I also don't get what is up with the former US team players as commentators. Casey Keller isn't too bad, but Taylor Twellman, Eric Wynalda, and Alexi Lallas all come off as smarmy douchebags.



Hated Twellman as a player, hate him even more as a commentator. Watching him sulk on the field after the end of the MLS Championship match in around 2007 is probably my favorite memory of him.
 
Brazil game: Brazil played some of the most disgusting, cynical football I've ever seen. They went out with the intention of intimidating Rodriguez out of the game and cynically fouling Colombia at every turn - youd almost think they knew they weren't getting booked. Colombia were getting no protection from the ref and resorted to the same ugly brand of football.
Whatever about interpretation of the rules - and that in itself is an example of how corrupt and morally bankrupt this FIFA shower are-those officials stand out as way worse than any others and put players in danger, Neymar was the biggest on field victim - the bigger victim was the game.
Disgusting.
 
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Matante I can't quite understand your insistence on trying to make this discussion about football a cultural difference debate.
It's not about cultural diferences: You have an opinion which is a guess about future performance, Titus and others have an opposing guess about future performance.
It's all clairvoyance and nothing to do with cultural differences - YMMV, IMHO etc.
However, if you apply a business perspective to this, a common perspective would be that past performance and behaviour is the best predictor of future performance - I wouldn't invest in an average performing business because it's supporters told me they believed it will be the best.
Get a track record of achievement, show me progress and development on a consistent basis and then I'll look at it.