Fodera Club Part XXV

[5string_phunk]

Thought you guys might find this interesting:
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It's the Spector Fodera.

As a fan/owner of a few Spectors, and someone who dreams of owning a Fodera one day, I have to say this is a sweet little piece of history!

I'm going to head to Brian's shop next week to drop off my Demeter for a checkup...might have to pull this one down and give it a spin!

 

[Robin Ruscio]

Tone is incredible. More to come.View attachment 390606

Congrats man!

Regarding the Slap o thon:

For years, I actually would only teach my students any slap stuff without the caveat not to use it in the wrong place, but as a pro, sometimes you are going to be asked to do it in certain places. I've recently come around to embracing the technique again in some tasty, Marcus type spots in my current 80s cover band, where I try to view more like a period performance. It's amazing how nice it can sound within the original context it was created in. I hate to admit it, but practicing slap a little more often has actually paid off in some rhythmic accuracy for me in the last year or so.

That being said, I knew slap had gone all wrong when I heard Fieldy from Korn with that horrible Ibanez tone in the 90's and would be very uniquely to use it in an original, creative music project.

I can still listen to Marcus any day of the week, FWIW.

 

[steubig]

we're slapping a dead horse here, but i'll continue

i actually like slap and been known to use it. but i tend to be more a note/groove guy. i tend to guys like marvin craig from lakeside, etc. . personal preference is all. (as i mentioned, i'm old.)

i actually like korn, i see fieldy's think as a choice that works for that band.

 

[Vic]

i actually like slap and been known to use it. but i tend to be more a note/groove guy.

+1, though I'm also simply not very good at slap... though I would like to get better at it. My own fault... I don't practice it much.

 

[DELACIUS]

There are good bass players, and there are others that slap, tap, hammer, pulloffs, finger guys... So that said it doesn't matter as long as it fits the music.
We all know who are good bass players. What determines them is jobs, fame, money. Maybe some times we don't agree, but he actually is great bass player, not by my taste but other respect what he does.

Btw. Sorry for my spelling and English but I write on my cell.

 

[steubig]

So that said it doesn't matter as long as it fits the music.

this is the crux of the matter, no?

and then it comes down to if the music suits you or not.

(more and more i try to make certain i reference that it's my subjective taste, not an absolute.)

 

[Christian Houmann]

I like slap and uses it! Victor makes this bass sound good

http://youtu.be/VjjgH6m57O0

 

[DELACIUS]

this is the crux of the matter, no?

and then it comes down to if the music suits you or not.

(more and more i try to make certain i reference that it's my subjective taste, not an absolute.)

It always is subjective, that can only be different if money, fame, job comes before that...

 

[Jared Lash]

The only player I can listen to slap these days and make it funky as hell with taste is Bobby Vega.

Bobby Vega is great, I love what he plays no matter how he is doing it.

+1 Agreed.

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Some of the stuff bobby vega does makes me do a double take, not to mention the strong / tight groove that runs through all of it. Just an incredible original virtuoso IMHO.

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1+ to Bobby Vega !!!

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That's because Bobby Vega approaches things solely from a musical context.

The reason I started playing with a pick is because I couldn’t do certain things with my fingers. I can’t play “What is Hip” with my fingers and get it to sound right, but I can play other stuff with my fingers and make it sound good. I can play stuff with my thumb and do all sorts of crazy stuff, but the note gets there at a different time whether you’re using your fingers, a pick or your thumb. It sounds different. So now I have three different ways to approach the feel of a song. And just because I play with my thumb doesn’t mean I have to play lots of notes. And I can play so you don’t even hear the pick, or I can play so you can hear the pick.

I’m more into shapes and tonal structures and doing different things with [technique] than trying to say this is a better way or that is a better way. It’s just another tool in my arsenal. The only way to know which one is right is when everyone is smiling.

The issue with "NAMM slap" or "Guitar Center Slap" is that it comes from a technique context rather than a musical one. And there's nothing inherently wrong with that. A lot of stuff I practice (and much more stuff I used to practice) was technique driven and not especially musical in terms of string skipping exercises, fingering patterns, thump & pluck pattens etc.

Victor Wooten is definitely technique driven but he is also the first to say that once you start to feel comfortable with that technique the next step is to find ways to be musical and expressive with it.

You can let your musical needs drive your technique or you can let your technique drive what you are able to express musically. The problem only arises when displaying technique absent of musical expression. At least IMO.

 

[Damian Coccio]

Brazilian rosewood is amazing stuff. First bass I really notice it on.
Prs did an interesting video on it

 

[Steveman]

i actually like korn, i see fieldy's think as a choice that works for that band.

Korn's guitars are so de-tuned that having standard bass notes would make it sound too muddy, hence why Fieldy plays a more percussive role on bass.

 

[Damian Coccio]

I like slap and uses it! Victor makes this bass sound good

He sure does! I like how it seems like even when he gets flashy there is a solid groove that runs through it.

 

[asbs]

the thing is, Victor tales a story when he is slap.
And he grooves so well...
At the end, that makes music.

I like slap and uses it! Victor makes this bass sound good

http://youtu.be/VjjgH6m57O0

 

[Angus]

Korn's guitars are so de-tuned that having standard bass notes would make it sound too muddy, hence why Fieldy plays a more percussive role on bass.

The only tune to A or Ab- there are plenty of bands with bass players that tune much lower without sounding muddy. It's just a choice, that's all.

 

[steubig]

The only tune to A or Ab- there are plenty of bands with bass players that tune much lower without sounding muddy. It's just a choice, that's all.

he wants to sound like a bass drum. right?

 

[steubig]

the thing is, Victor tales a story when he is slap.
And he grooves so well...
At the end, that makes music.

indeed. and that's what counts to me.

 

[jacobsmithbass_]

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Wow!!

 

[b-for-beatles]

Thought you guys might find this interesting:

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It's the Spector Fodera.

Interesting.

 

[DELACIUS]

woo-hoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHdXArvXBs0

 

[kamakiriad7]

There's this old Fodera NYC over at station-music.de that caught my eye. Not sure why. Something about it just grabs me. Maybe it's the gloss finish and the unusual body styling, but I really, really want it...

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