Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

[drewphishesp]

Figured it out. The directions in the new user guide worked. I went for 3.03 to 04

 

[Quatschmacher]

Figured it out. The directions in the new user guide worked. I went for 3.03 to 04

Glad to hear somebody read my instructions and found them useful.

 

[drewphishesp]

So say there's only 45 or so presets I'd use. Can I just load a folder w those 1-45 and it'll only put those 45 on the fi? Or will it just leave the rest 46-99 the same as they were

 

[cosmicevan]

So say there's only 45 or so presets I'd use. Can I just load a folder w those 1-45 and it'll only put those 45 on the fi? Or will it just leave the rest 46-99 the same as they were

It doesn’t keep blank presets so whatever is there will stay as is. I’ve created duplicate banks to answer this so let’s say the 30’s are the same as the 80’s on my unit. I tend to go direct to a sound but if surfing around this helps me know the general area I am in.

 

[drewphishesp]

lookin for tips or presets for this sound at 27:10 here. its my ulitmate mike sound

 

[Quatschmacher]

lookin for tips or presets for this sound at 27:10 here. its my ulitmate mike sound

Sounds like one of the original Deep Impact presets to me. Check out presets 21-29 of the v3 factory sound set. It’ll be one of those, though he might have tweaked it slightly from the edit dial and parameter knob.

 

[drewphishesp]

how would i add more envelope filter to a sound to make it more bubbly

 

[Quatschmacher]

how would i add more envelope filter to a sound to make it more bubbly

I don’t quite understand your question. Do you mean have the cutoff value oscillate quickly via an LFO? Do you mean modifying the envelope shape so a single trigger makes a kind of “bwap” sound?
Can you post an audio/video example of the kind of sound you mean.

 

[drewphishesp]

I mean kind of like in the c4 synth you can use the effects to make an envelope filter like a mutron etc... wondering what part of the editor controls that so I could take a preset and add some more bubble to it

 

[Quatschmacher]

I mean kind of like in the c4 synth you can use the effects to make an envelope filter like a mutron etc... wondering what part of the editor controls that so I could take a preset and add some more bubble to it

Repeating the word "bubble" isn't helping to clarify what you mean to me. If you read the section of the manual on using the FI to replace single effects boxes, I wrote an easy tutorial on how to get envelope filter sounds out of the FI. Have a read through that and play around with those ideas.

 

[drewphishesp]

reading that now. what I mean is I want to take say preset 21 and add more envelope to it so it gives more of a bwap like it would if I took that sound and then routed it thru my ebs bass iq

 

[Quatschmacher]

reading that now. what I mean is I want to take say preset 21 and add more envelope to it so it gives more of a bwap like it would if I took that sound and then routed it thru my ebs bass iq

Several parameters are involved here: cutoff, envelope depth, envelope follower (if you want it to have more dynamic control) and the A, D and S stages of the envelope shape.

 

[Charlie Tuna]

reading that now. what I mean is I want to take say preset 21 and add more envelope to it so it gives more of a bwap like it would if I took that sound and then routed it thru my ebs bass iq

Definitely go through the guide in the manual. You may be wanting to increase the resonance for more “bubble” or “quack”.

 

[drewphishesp]

Question.

is there a pedal that I could use that's midi that has like 5 or so buttons and every button would be one sound from the FI?

I assume this is possible but am a midi noob. Does anyone have any reccomendations?

 

[Quatschmacher]

Question.

is there a pedal that I could use that's midi that has like 5 or so buttons and every button would be one sound from the FI?

I assume this is possible but am a midi noob. Does anyone have any reccomendations?

Do you mean something to switch presets? Any MIDI controller capable of sending MIDI PC messages over 5-pin MIDI DIN cable will work. I currently use a Morningstar MC8 but there are cheaper options out there. Morningstar do an MC-6 and MC-3. In conjunction with the FI, these controllers can do all sorts of cool stuff. I use mine to play 5-note chords on the FI.
MC6 MKII FI II - V-I

 

[drewphishesp]

Yes but like have it so each button would be a preset for like the 5 I use the most not just go up and down

 

[Quatschmacher]

Yes but like have it so each button would be a preset for like the 5 I use the most not just go up and down

The Morningstar stuff can do that no problem. You could also do this on an iOS device using the free TouchOSC app.

 

[sunbeast]

Yes but like have it so each button would be a preset for like the 5 I use the most not just go up and down

I’m pretty sure the larger DMC controllers can be configured this way. I have the DMC-8 and by default the Preset mode on that one makes 4 of the buttons into individual presets (A-D) with 2 buttons to scroll up/down to different banks with their own 4 presets. IIRC there is a mode that allows custom commands as well.

The Morningstar controllers can be configured for separate commands for held buttons, etc, so definitely more powerful overall but requires slightly more programming IME

 

[cosmicevan]

@drewphishes any MIDI controller will do what you ask. Each preset on the Future Impact can be jumped to by sending the corresponding PC (or program change). CC (or control changes) are used more to change a specific parameter. Say you want to sweep a filter or you have 2 settings within a preset, like a volume bump...that would be a CC with a value number. Basically, CC says, twist this knob, the value says how far. So CC's would sweep with an expression pedal to achieve a knob twist. PC's tend to be bigger actions like on/off or usually preset selections as with the Future Impact.

Mike is a big Deep Impact guy. He also was a beta tester on the C4 so I believe he uses both. With Phish, particularly NYE run 19 he was using both pedals. I found when he used the C4 was when there were issues as it seemed he hadn't really experimented with those sounds in the phish mix....the 27 min sound you reference is a vintage deep impact preset...@Quatschmacher guidance is golden there on where to look on the v3 sounds.

FWIW, I have a controller that runs all my sound (ES-8) and for the Future Impact, I dedicated several banks to a variety of sounds that I access with presets. I compliment these sounds with my reverbs, delays and even filters as I'm not wild about the FI MIDI filter sweeps. But hot dog, the FI has some incredible sounds. Part of my 2021 goals is to finally understand the editor in a way that I can design my own sounds and tweak things deliberately.

 

[Quatschmacher]

I'm not wild about the FI MIDI filter sweeps.

Why is that? If it’s a range thing, there could be two reasons:

1. by default, CC11 and CC74 only sweep the filter over a two-octave range either side of the programmed cutoff level in the patch; you can set this range to four or eight octaves in the boot menu if you want a wider sweep.

2. As said, the CC filter sweep always takes the value of the cutoff in the patch as it’s centre point so if that is very low or very high, the sweep range will be limited on one side.

@drewphishes it's also worth bearing in mind that the FI has some very useful features assigned to CC, such as the tuner, dry volume control, synth volume etc., so having a controller capable of sending out these messages, programmed to your liking, is a great thing.

I heartily recommend the Morningstar stuff. It’s brilliant, well thought-out, easy to program and the guys at the company listen to their customers and are constantly updating the feature set in line with requests and the cool stuff they think of themselves.