Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

[Quatschmacher]

Really enjoying the Future Impact pedal.
Just had a few feature requests, I see the creator posts here so thought I'd list them here, not sure where else to put them.

1. Bitcrusher / samplerate reducer in the effects section, should be simple to implement, having a resonant filter going into a bitcrusher is a great and computationally cheap way of opening up a bunch of formant sounds as well as a fun way of creating interesting distortions.

2. There are several controls that aren't smoothed, creating the zipper sound when adjusted, this makes assigning a Flexi curve to them useless. For example, the delay time in the delay effect as well as, I believe, the distortion/harmoniser controls.

3. The EQ effect seems to already affect the subs and top end when engaged without any of the bands being adjusted, if it could be completely flat when set flat that would be helpful.

4. Highpass and lowpass filters, not resonant ones, just utilities for cutting extreme subs and top end. The highpass should be an 18dB or otherwise fairly steep slope ideally.

5. In the effect section rather than choosing between either EQ into Distortion or Distortion into EQ it would be nice to have the option of an EQ on either side.

That's about all I can think of right now.
Thanks again, this is a really useful pedal, especially now it's in a smaller enclosure.

Not sure how much space is left for extra effects. I’m sure I’ve suggested SRR/bitcrush before. I think I’d prefer to see something a bit more mainstream first such as phaser.

FM and ring mod have also been things I’d want to see before bitcrush.

Formants can already be achieved to a degree by sweeping the two (boosted) mid bands of the EQ.

There are also a few other refinements that would benefit all users, such having continuous control of the pitch-tracked filter (or at least some further options between 0 and 100%).


The zippering on the delay lines has been there from v3 where we didn’t have any space left for refinement. I have definitely mentioned this as an area for improvement in the past. I agree, it would be good if this could be addressed.

I’ve either not noticed the EQ not being flat before or not been bothered by it, but hopefully @Andras Szalay can investigate.

High pass could be useful. 6-12dB is quite common on synths and does the job. You can achieve some of this by cutting the low shelving filter and adjusting its curve.

Funnily enough I also recently suggested having the option of an EQ either side of the distortion.

 

[gdn]

Not sure how much space is left for extra effects. I’m sure I’ve suggested SRR/bitcrush before. I think I’d prefer to see something a bit more mainstream first such as phaser.

FM and ring mod have also been things I’d want to see before bitcrush.

Formants can already be achieved to a degree by sweeping the two (boosted) mid bands of the EQ.

There are also a few other refinements that would benefit all users, such having continuous control of the pitch-tracked filter (or at least some further options between 0 and 100%).


The zippering on the delay lines has been there from v3 where we didn’t have any space left for refinement. I have definitely mentioned this as an area for improvement in the past. I agree, it would be good if this could be addressed.

I’ve either not noticed the EQ not being flat before or not been bothered by it, but hopefully @Andras Szalay can investigate.

High pass could be useful. 6-12dB is quite common on synths and does the job. You can achieve some of this by cutting the low shelving filter and adjusting its curve.

Funnily enough I also recently suggested having the option of an EQ either side of the distortion.

Thanks for the reply. I agree, FM and ring mod would be nice... Slow ring mod settings could also double up as a tremolo.

I thought the move to V4 left a lot more room though? Where the V3 completely exhausted the previous chips.

Admittedly, I don't fully know what room is available and what exactly goes into each part as I don't have the source, I would say, a sample reducer can be very computationally cheap, just a simple sample and hold, one variable to hold the current signal state between cycles, another to count the increment. The bitcrusher side might take a bit more processing to get it sounding nicely nasty...
I'd also argue that this effect is probably more mainstream than you think these days, maybe not so much for 'classic' sounds though, still, as a digital pedal it feels it could be a natural addition where having a separate dedicated pedal to the effect might be a bit much.

Anyway, thanks for hearing me out. Looking forward to seeing what future updates bring us.

 

[Quatschmacher]

I thought the move to V4 left a lot more room though? Where the V3 completely exhausted the previous chips.

Yes, but we also added a fair amount of improvements and new stuff in v4 that have taken up space quickly. As Andras has previously mentioned, the new pedal is partitioned and the parts which host the current synth engine are getting quite full. The remaining partition space will likely be used for a new synthesis engine.

Tremolo can already be achieved by routing LFO to mixer levels in the mod matrix.

Yes, bitcrush is a bit more mainstream these days, but still not as bread-and-butter as phaser though.

 

[sunbeast]

I do hope a full FM synth engine is in the works! Of course it will be limited without polyphony, but there are still some classic FM bass sounds that I’ve yet to hear from a guitar synth pedal!

 

[Quatschmacher]

I do hope a full FM synth engine is in the works! Of course it will be limited without polyphony, but there are still some classic FM bass sounds that I’ve yet to hear from a guitar synth pedal!

I’m quietly confident it’ll happen.

 

[gdn]

Fair point about the phaser. It would probably be useful.
I guess FM would involve another oscillator or allowing one of the 4 current ones to be reassigned and another ADSR to shape it's response. I guess it could be assigned as either FM or AM so ring mod could be found in there. But yeah, I'm sure you've all already thought these things through.

 

[drewphishesp]

So prob a dumb question. If I wanted to use my Morningstar mc6 w my FI and a hx stomp do I go midi out mc7 into FI then midi out FI to helix? I never used two midi capable things before

 

[corvette_br]

Hi there! I've just started a thread, but I think I may be better off posing my question here.

I'm interested in buying a Future Impact V. 3, but to do so I'd like to sell an 8-bit synth pedal I've got (that would be a Dedalo Byte, if it helps) to help fund the purchase.

Would the FI be able to function as this sort of lo-fi synth?

Thanks for the input!

 

[gdn]

Hi there! I've just started a thread, but I think I may be better off posing my question here.

I'm interested in buying a Future Impact V. 3, but to do so I'd like to sell an 8-bit synth pedal I've got (that would be a Dedalo Byte, if it helps) to help fund the purchase.

Would the FI be able to function as this sort of lo-fi synth?

Thanks for the input!

It depends how you are using the Debalo Byte really. Future Impact can do a lot of the things the Debalo can but doesn't have the aliasing control and uses a preset system rather than the few hands on controls the Debalo has.
I haven't tried the V3 though as I only got on board with the V4.

 

[corvette_br]

Thanks a lot for the answer! So the aliasing control would be the main difference. That's indeed a nice feature, I'll have to give it a deeper thought...

 

[Quatschmacher]

So prob a dumb question. If I wanted to use my Morningstar mc6 w my FI and a hx stomp do I go midi out mc7 into FI then midi out FI to helix? I never used two midi capable things before

Personally I’d do it that way. FI midi thru would need to be on. If you do, you can probably use the MC6 as the interface to the FI editor via the usb port. You’d need to feed the helix MIDI our back into the mc6 though and the former would need midi thru on.

 

[drewphishesp]

Anyone make anything close to the synth in this banger

 

[MascisMan]

Anyone make anything close to the synth in this banger

I dont have what you need but that song IS a banger!

 

[Yentzee]

Hi U just got out my eurorack and my future impact with cv cable. I have no manual. What is coming out of the jacks? I am wondering as they are stereo. I was expecting gate and cv.
Really looking fwd going through a quantizer and playing 808 samples and other stuff through my eurorack

 

[Quatschmacher]

Hi U just got out my eurorack and my future impact with cv cable. I have no manual. What is coming out of the jacks? I am wondering as they are stereo. I was expecting gate and cv.
Really looking fwd going through a quantizer and playing 808 samples and other stuff through my eurorack

You have an internet connection and therefore access to the manual:

https://www.auraplug.com/panda/downloads/FI%20User%20Guide%20v4.11.pdf

And yes, gate and pitch CV is exactly what comes out.

 

[Yentzee]

You have an internet connection and therefore access to the manual:

https://www.auraplug.com/panda/downloads/FI%20User%20Guide%20v4.11.pdf

And yes, gate and pitch CV is exactly what comes out.

I dont know what the problem is of just answering instead referring to the manual. Standard for cv are monojacks, the manual doesnt say why it is trs so I rather ask then shortening something.
I also just get half of the menupoints when entering global so there is no out option here fw 1.11
Anyway I thought it would be nice but I am so annoyed by it that it just goes back to the bix I found it in. I think the pedal tracks great, way better than the competition and the virtual analog engine got a pretty good sound. Unfortunately it is a bit linited in terms of sound design but I might just go ahead and make a tracking myself in a stm32

 

[Quatschmacher]

I dont know what the problem is of just answering instead referring to the manual. Standard for cv are monojacks, the manual doesnt say why it is trs so I rather ask then shortening something.
I also just get half of the menupoints when entering global so there is no out option here fw 1.11
Anyway I thought it would be nice but I am so annoyed by it that it just goes back to the bix I found it in. I think the pedal tracks great, way better than the competition and the virtual analog engine got a pretty good sound. Unfortunately it is a bit linited in terms of sound design but I might just go ahead and make a tracking myself in a stm32

I’m not up to lengthy answers this week as I’m very ill.

I was fairly certain my CV cable has mono outputs.

You say you are on firmware 1.11. If that is the case, you have an older FI I or v3 unit that can only be upgraded to v3.61 and does not have any CV capability. (CV is only a feature of V4 units.)

If you do indeed have an older unit, upgrade your pedal’s firmware here, following ALL instructions and, absolutely essentially, allow the updater to write the factory sound set when it asks you and follow those instructions too:

Future Impact Firmware Update

V3.60 manual is here:

https://www.auraplug.com/panda/downloads/FI%20User%20Guide%20v3.60.pdf

There are plenty of very deep sound design options but most of these require hooking up to the editor (free download from the support page). If you have a v3 unit, you’ll need the v3.60 editor.

(If you do however have a v4 unit and your firmware number was simply a typo, you’ll need the v4.11 editor and upgrade to the v4.12 firmware.)

 

[Yentzee]

I have a v4 (still need to get used to taking reading glasses with me ) but I need to update. The plugs on my cable are definitely trs so with three contacts, maybe it isn‘t genuine? Got it of Musicstore.
Anyway hope you get better soon.

 

[sunbeast]

I dont know what the problem is of just answering instead referring to the manual. Standard for cv are monojacks, the manual doesnt say why it is trs so I rather ask then shortening something.
I also just get half of the menupoints when entering global so there is no out option here fw 1.11
Anyway I thought it would be nice but I am so annoyed by it that it just goes back to the bix I found it in. I think the pedal tracks great, way better than the competition and the virtual analog engine got a pretty good sound. Unfortunately it is a bit linited in terms of sound design but I might just go ahead and make a tracking myself in a stm32

It’s pretty crazy to get irritated at the guy who wrote the manual when he directs you to the manual that answers your question clearly. He’s already done his job well once so that the info is accessible forever.

 

[Yentzee]

It’s pretty crazy to get irritated at the guy who wrote the manual when he directs you to the manual that answers your question clearly. He’s already done his job well once so that the info is accessible forever.

getting crazy? Jesus I was asking an absoltely legit question. In the manual I cant see what the ring of the trs is connected to but I am happy to learn if you direct me to that page. Besides that, this is just my opinion, asking questions is what tve forum is for, isn‘t it? I am just getting a bit irritated getting an answer that takes way longer to type than something like „it is connected to gnd“ or „it isn‘t connected at all“. And to be honest I have no idea who the person is who ansered my question and I also don‘t see why this should be relevant to how I phrase my answer. I am oretty sure that in this very long thread are thousands of questions from bassists which are not experienced with programming a synth and probably answered which are answered in the manual. I mean what else are you discussing here? Just saying how well it tracks again and again? Anyway I am out of here, just to be clear analogue gear that is controlled with cv gate uses mono jacks and no stereo jacks. Before I put a cable which I don‘t know what signals it carries in any of my modules I think it is wise to ask.