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Future of music

#121
Folks used to listen to vinyl through nice monitors... Some even snagged cabs like 4350s and such... My stereo cabs are old Altec-Lansing studio monitors I bought new decades back.... Way back, everybody wanted nice cabs... You could even buy some killer cabs for the bucks at Radio Shack...

Today, folks will happily listen to to stuff recorded through a big old Neve on a damn pawn shop mp3 player thru buck-fitty Dollar Gentrul earbuds... Go figure....
 
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#124
People will tire of text and yearn for deeper interaction, which will spur a revival of CB radio. The CB fad, in turn, will
kick of a Road Music Revival. The kids will call the "new" genre "Ro-Mo."

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Next big thing ? Never going to happen.
the 1900 til now was an anomality. Music never been about music star and it will never will be again.
It was a phenomenon but this is it.

What we see here is old people loving this anomality so much ( because it was such a big part of their life and life of other ... like it was bigger than anything else ... pretty much like a religion ) that seeing it being different make them scare because what they took for granted isn't there anymore.

I'm happy music never will be that big star thing ... turning normal people almost into gods. Putting the image before the actual music ...

Radio ? Tv ? those are obsolete format. No one use those anymore to discovers new music.

Spotify and Youtube are very powerful for that.









 
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OptimalOptimus said:
Next big thing ? Never going to happen.
the 1900 til now was an anomality. Music never been about music star and it will never will be again.
It was a phenomenon but this is it.

What we see here is old people loving this anomality so much ( because it was such a big part of their life and life of other ... like it was bigger than anything else ... pretty much like a religion ) that seeing it being different make them scare because what they took for granted isn't there anymore.

I'm happy music never will be that big star thing ... turning normal people almost into gods. Putting the image before the actual music ...

Radio ? Tv ? those are obsolete format. No one use those anymore to discovers new music.

Spotify and Youtube are very powerful for that.









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You are spot on that threads such as this one are driven by nostalgia and fear of change. That's Talk Bass and it's over-40 demographic.

But I think your pronouncing the death of the music celebrity is premature.

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MustangWally said:
Amen. I miss my Orpheus Aurora III cabinets and A&R Cambridge A60 amp real bad. Back when you could feel your music. I still don't get the whole 'earbuds' thing.
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A bud of mine's parent's still have his 'stereo' cab setup. The Mcintosh/JBL huge single cab (if you could call it a cab) system... One huge ass cab filled a corner of the game room in their house.... My lawdy mercy it was deadly.... Over waist high to me and I'm well over 6', and it was wider'n hell... Stained Maple front if I remember correctly... Grills on the out sides.... Beautiful. and louder'n two hells... Powered by McIntosh....I saw it in the early 70's there... His dad bought it new way before... It is still there.... Mint. Original tubes....
 
#129
Old P Bass Guy said:
Killed it as an Art or a Business?
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Haha. There’s still plenty of new music being made, so I’m going to go with “business”.

Except there are still businesses engaged in the music industry, so maybe not “killed”?

Must be that new lingo that I’m too old to understand...
 
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#130
Music has become a tool for selling other stuff. Everybody that’s anybody now is picking up $ to sell beverages, clothes, jewellery, you name it. It’s become a fashion statement and most young people wouldn’t know what music is these days.
I took my son at 16 to see Iron Maiden, Doobie Bros. Macca, Santana, Count Basie Orchestra. He was sitting at the edge of his seat from the excitement of watching a band play live, got into saxophone and jazz and played on a few tours with me.
What’s the future? I don’t really know except to say that unless people develop an appreciation for listening to actual music generated by good players there won’t be anywhere to go.
A few years ago I had a friends 14 year old daughter visit, she came into my studio as I was mixing a song that the band had recorded. She was genuinely excited to hear it and she said “that sounds really good” and then asks “are you a DJ”? I said “no, I’m a musician” and explained to her how tracks are recorded by using real instruments and real players.
As soon as I said that she gave me a look of utter disgust and walked away. Seems like being a DJ is very fashionable, a musician- horrible!
 
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a place like Seattle that never really had any big association with music, and all the sudden being
Put on the proverbial map o music. Gotta figure Something happened? My guess, a large group of people said screw it
Made grunge happen .
 
#134
oZZma said:
I'm sure I won't miss any of those "artists" who make music because you can make money with that.
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I don't believe that there are many musicians who actually do it for the money.

What I meant is the fact that you could earn a living and support yourself allowed many people to continue making music, without having to have a "day job". That isn't necessarily the case anymore.

Most of the newer bands have to have all kinds of things going on alongside their music just to stay afloat. Even after successful album releases. Merch, lessons, meet and greets, production side work, endorsements, collaborating on product designs/releases, even a plain old 9-5 job. Allot of very non-art related things that many true artists have no interest in dealing with.
 
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mmon77 said:
I don't believe that there are many musicians who actually do it for the money.

What I meant is the fact that you could earn a living and support yourself allowed many people to continue making music, without having to have a "day job". That isn't necessarily the case anymore.

Most of the newer bands have to have all kinds of things going on alongside their music just to stay afloat. Even after successful album releases. Merch, lessons, meet and greets, production side work, endorsements, collaborating on product designs/releases, even a plain old 9-5 job. Allot of very non-art related things that many true artists have no interest in dealing with.
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Bands I listen to have had day jobs since the 90s, with few exceptions. This never stopped them from making music at the highest levels :)
I find that the greatest music has never been "economically" rewarding. Musicians making it have motivations that luckily can never be weakened by the changes in the music industry, or even its total collapse. They are deeper, more "personal". There will always be someone with that urge, regardless of the money involved!
 
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mmon77 said:
I don't believe that there are many musicians who actually do it for the money.

What I meant is the fact that you could earn a living and support yourself allowed many people to continue making music, without having to have a "day job". That isn't necessarily the case anymore.

Most of the newer bands have to have all kinds of things going on alongside their music just to stay afloat. Even after successful album releases. Merch, lessons, meet and greets, production side work, endorsements, collaborating on product designs/releases, even a plain old 9-5 job. Allot of very non-art related things that many true artists have no interest in dealing with.
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oZZma said:
Bands I listen to have had day jobs since the 90s, with few exceptions. This never stopped them from making music at the highest levels :)
I find that the greatest music has never been "economically" rewarding. Musicians making it have motivations that luckily can never be weakened by the changes in the music industry, or even its total collapse. They are deeper, more "personal". There will always be someone with that urge, regardless of the money involved!
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One of my favorite musicians discussing the perils of the working musician :)
 
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#138
Music as a commodity and social binding agent will probably never have the power it used to have (certainly not in the way it had through much of the 20th century). People simply don't need music to mean as much as it used to as a social phenomenon, as entertainment or as a means of establishing personal and/or group "identity". The next big thing could very well be the song as sound bite - where the typical length of a pop song decreases from roughly three minutes to half that length. It's not uncommon these days to hear radio sets where there's a continuous club-style mix format and only thirty or forty seconds of a song gets played. Of course, the current trend of cheap production will continue and budgets will decrease even further as the unsustainable streaming model runs its course. People will soon realize that albums are pretty much a waste of time and that a strictly singles-oriented market is the way to go. Oh, and within five years hipsters will decide that vinyl is a pain in the butt and all of their Arcade Fire albums will end up in land fills. :D
 
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Son of Wobble said:
You are spot on that threads such as this one are driven by nostalgia and fear of change. That's Talk Bass and it's over-40 demographic.

But I think your pronouncing the death of the music celebrity is premature.

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Agreed. There are plenty of music celebrities out there. Most of them I'm not familiar with, and I don't know their music. But that doesn't mean they aren't celebrities.

I've learned that culture moves on even if we don't. Pop music (and the business) is never going to return to what it once was, no matter how much we protest.
 
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