This popped up for sale on FB, great condition and the price is fair, I dig that color too! Someone should jump on that one!
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Gone apparently. Wow. I'd hit that one hard if I could. And I don't even know the price! Hard to tell by the pic, but I bet it's either Cobalt Blue or Metallic Purple. Damn that's a rare bird.
(it is gone, right?)
Well, let me update you on that. I bought a used G&L SB2-T and shortly after I got it the strap button on the horn did fall out. Not a problem, I used the old Elmer's glue and toothpick repair. That was over 5 years ago. No problem since then.
I believe that G&L moved to in-house pickguards on all USA models in 2015 or 2016. I'm sure Chandler's reluctance is related to the fact that they no longer produce the factory PGs for G&L. Some of the details might've changed at that time, but I doubt it has to do with inconsistent tolerances. Most likely when the factory took over, Chandler couldn't guarantee that their old ones (which they supplied to the factory) would fit the newer guitars. They very well may fit perfectly. I don't know.
Has anyone added a second pickup to a Kiloton? Say a second humbucker or the MFD split coil?
Can the MFD humbucker be wired to select between front and rear single coil operations?
Is there any benefit to the adjustable pole pieces other than fine tuning string-to-string output balance? Can they be adjusted to emphasize a particular coil set or voicing? For instance, raise the front and lower the back (or vice versa) to emphasize the front coil over the rear? Or raise & lower the appropriate sets to give a more spilt coil P bass sound?
Can the MFD humbucker be wired to select between front and rear single coil operations?
Is there any benefit to the adjustable pole pieces other than fine tuning string-to-string output balance? Can they be adjusted to emphasize a particular coil set or voicing? For instance, raise the front and lower the back (or vice versa) to emphasize the front coil over the rear? Or raise & lower the appropriate sets to give a more spilt coil P bass sound?
I believe the Kiloton pickup is the same as on the L-series or ASAT Bass, with 4 output wires,so the answer is: YES !
I have done the K-mod (single coil tap) on both my L-2500 and my ASAT Bass.
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I have a humbucker called a Dan Shields Crap Trap on my pedal steel (which for a while was my main instrument). It also has adjustable pole pieces. Instructions with that pickup say to produce a brighter sound on an individual string, turn the bridge side counter-clockwise and, on the same string, turn the neck side clockwise an equal amount. Reverse this process if you want a darker tone. This helps keep the pickup balanced. Begin slowly...1/4 turn or less. It works well on that Dan Shields pickup. Please understand, I am not advising this without caution. I don't know if the pole pieces on an MFD humbucker will take kindly to being turned clockwise, so proceed carefully and be gentle. I haven't tried this method with my MFDs.
I assume this implies "keep the strings balanced in relation to one another."
In layman's terms, they seem to be saying "Raise the pole piece on the bridge side for a brighter tone. This will also increase the volume on that string unless you lower the pole piece on the neck side by an equal amount."
That certainly makes sense to me. But then, I'm a blithering idiot, so ...
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Good luck!
I also am a BI; let's start a club here on TB! Yes, I'd say achieve a volume balance on the strings first, then adjust tonally, carefully using the method I mentioned above. Bear in mind that the strings on a pedal steel are absolutely flat as is the surface of the pickup, so the individual pole pieces are equidistant from the strings by default. Of course, the strings on a bass have a slight arc while the surface of the pickup is still flat.
Did someone around here snag this one?
On my L-2500 and my ASAT Bass, my choice was to tap the outer coil of each pickup (closest to the bridge, closest to the neck): Series (OMG mode) - Single coil (Outer) - Parallel.
The factory 2-position switch was swapped for a 3-position 4PDT switch.
On my M-2500 (see my post a few days ago), I managed to install a separate switch for each pickup (from a project by Torbass and Greg at Rocket Music).
About both inner and outer coil options available, you may refer to paragraph 9. in this document by DavePlaysBass (2008): https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/gl_wiring-pdf.3681025
Note: On my computer, to open this file properly with all the pictures, I need 1)- to save it and then 2)- open the saved file.
I've really been impressed by my new L-1000, so it's leading me to consider a second G&L ... 
Thoughts on the LB-100? It seems that the pickup on the LB would be a bit further removed, tonally, from the 1000, compared to the SB-1. I'm assuming here that the MFD pickup on the SB-1 is going to be 'closer' to the MFD pickup on the 1000.
Thoughts on the LB-100? It seems that the pickup on the LB would be a bit further removed, tonally, from the 1000, compared to the SB-1. I'm assuming here that the MFD pickup on the SB-1 is going to be 'closer' to the MFD pickup on the 1000.
I don't own an LB-100 and I am very happy with the tone of my SB-2, the neck MFD pickup is thunderousI've really been impressed by my new L-1000, so it's leading me to consider a second G&L ...
Thoughts on the LB-100? It seems that the pickup on the LB would be a bit further removed, tonally, from the 1000, compared to the SB-1. I'm assuming here that the MFD pickup on the SB-1 is going to be 'closer' to the MFD pickup on the 1000.
Just dreaming for an SB-5 or an LB-105, if they exist ever.
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I've really been impressed by my new L-1000, so it's leading me to consider a second G&L ...
Thoughts on the LB-100? It seems that the pickup on the LB would be a bit further removed, tonally, from the 1000, compared to the SB-1. I'm assuming here that the MFD pickup on the SB-1 is going to be 'closer' to the MFD pickup on the 1000.
The LB-100 is definitely going to give you a more vintage style P tone. The MFD P pickups that were in my Matador are definitely not vintage styled. So you thinking makes sense if you are looking for more tonal variation.
Thanks - my L2ks are actually using a variant that is not listed (we came up with it on the BassesbyLeo forum with DavePlaysBass, Sunbeast and others) with the 4PDT plus a push pull (on the volume knob).
That gives your Outer (switch) and Inner coils (push-pull) options, but you don't lose series mode (and of course you get solo coils and all the standard humbucker combinations in parallel and series). Inner coils is one of my favorite - great punch.
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Agreed, inner coils is the way to go in a k-type mod.
Years ago, I remember seeing that someone on TB had added a second MFD humbucker to an L-1500 or 1505, which have single humbuckers in the same place as the Kiloton's. So it has been done on a similar G&L, and having owned an L-1500 myself, I can understand why. I often wanted a thicker tone without resorting to effects, and wondered whether something like a DiMarzio Model J would have worked well. Then I got an SB-2, sold the L-1500, and never worried about having enough MFD thickness again!
I've also thought about adjusting the polepieces on an MFD humbucker to produce a split-coil pattern, but I've never tried it. It would be a cool experiment on an L-2000's neck pickup or an L-1000. On my L-1500, I think I did lower the poles toward the bridge to emphasize the other coil for a thicker tone, but it was a long time ago so I'm not sure.
Recorded an original song at a gig on my L2500 recently. Lovely sound!
