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G&L Club Part 7

#241
Hello. This is my first post here. I've had a 83 SB-2 for over ten years. I've played 100s of shows and recorded multiple albums with this trusty bass that I love so dearly. It might just be my bass, but I've always been disappointed with the fundamental of this bass. That caused me to buy my Dingwall in 2011. No lack of fundamental there!

Recently I just joined a very serious project that uses some really funky tunings. Due to the tuning it is almost useless to have a 5 string. Long story short, I'm back on the G&L again. Still lacking on my fundamental/low end.

Here is my question. I'm considering (for many more reasons that I haven't mentioned) buying a L-2000. Do you guys think the fundamental of that instrument is inherently stronger? Also, (I know you guys get this one ALL the time, sorry). What neck on the L-2000 would be the neck that is most similar to my SB-2? I BELIEVE the neck on the SB-2 is basically a precision neck. To be clear, it's an 83(4) SB-2. A little different than the current production SB-2s.


Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Jason
 
#243
Yup. Dozens of different types. Due to the really weird tuning I'm pretty much locked in to circle k strings due to their ability to build your own sets. I've had circle k strings on multiple basses. It's the bass trust me. I know the thing better than the back of my hand.
 
#244
Bean639 said:
Hello. This is my first post here. I've had a 83 SB-2 for over ten years. I've played 100s of shows and recorded multiple albums with this trusty bass that I love so dearly. It might just be my bass, but I've always been disappointed with the fundamental of this bass. That caused me to buy my Dingwall in 2011. No lack of fundamental there!

Recently I just joined a very serious project that uses some really funky tunings. Due to the tuning it is almost useless to have a 5 string. Long story short, I'm back on the G&L again. Still lacking on my fundamental/low end.

Here is my question. I'm considering (for many more reasons that I haven't mentioned) buying a L-2000. Do you guys think the fundamental of that instrument is inherently stronger? Also, (I know you guys get this one ALL the time, sorry). What neck on the L-2000 would be the neck that is most similar to my SB-2? I BELIEVE the neck on the SB-2 is basically a precision neck. To be clear, it's an 83(4) SB-2. A little different than the current production SB-2s.


Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Jason
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I don't know anything about the SB-2, but I can tell you from long experience that the L2000 has TONS of low end. In series mode with the bass control (which is passive cut only) set for 100% it has more than I can ever use. I always run the bass control at 50% and have plenty of low end.
 
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Bean639 said:
Hello. This is my first post here. I've had a 83 SB-2 for over ten years. I've played 100s of shows and recorded multiple albums with this trusty bass that I love so dearly. It might just be my bass, but I've always been disappointed with the fundamental of this bass. That caused me to buy my Dingwall in 2011. No lack of fundamental there!

Recently I just joined a very serious project that uses some really funky tunings. Due to the tuning it is almost useless to have a 5 string. Long story short, I'm back on the G&L again. Still lacking on my fundamental/low end.

Here is my question. I'm considering (for many more reasons that I haven't mentioned) buying a L-2000. Do you guys think the fundamental of that instrument is inherently stronger? Also, (I know you guys get this one ALL the time, sorry). What neck on the L-2000 would be the neck that is most similar to my SB-2? I BELIEVE the neck on the SB-2 is basically a precision neck. To be clear, it's an 83(4) SB-2. A little different than the current production SB-2s.


Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Jason
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Pretty sure the s/c SB-2/Lynx is the most mids-focussed of all the G&L's. You should get more fundamental from any other G&L, including a 2K.

The 1 5/8" neck (#12?) might be pretty close to your SB-2 neck.
 
#251
Check this out. I spent some time over the last couple of days researching all the coil tapping mods for the L2XXX series basses. With the help of the old Daveplaysbass wiring diagrams I performed the SC mod to my Korean L2500 tribute. Since I've never bonded with any of the series settings (Ok, I've only had it a week...) I decided to do the mod with the stock two way switch which eliminates the series settings leaving me with parallel and SC outside. This bass, being a tribute, was wired a little differently from the way Dave's diagrams showed which is something he said could be a possibility in the literature along with the diagrams. Anyway, everything works perfectly and the cool thing is once you wrap your head around it the whole thing becomes clear and it's really not a hard thing to do. I thought I'd post pics of my diagrams in case anybody has a tribute of this variety and they want to do this mod. I'll also include the SC inside diagram as well. As you can see, some wires need to be removed and some need to be added. Feel free to double check my work but as far as I can tell it's bullet proof. My tribute did not have the capacitors in it so their not in the diagrams.
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68Goldfish said:
Check this out. I spent some time over the last couple of days researching all the coil tapping mods for the L2XXX series basses. With the help of the old Daveplaysbass wiring diagrams I performed the SC mod to my Korean L2500 tribute. Since I've never bonded with any of the series settings (Ok, I've only had it a week...) I decided to do the mod with the stock two way switch which eliminates the series settings leaving me with parallel and SC outside. This bass, being a tribute, was wired a little differently from the way Dave's diagrams showed which is something he said could be a possibility in the literature along with the diagrams. Anyway, everything works perfectly and the cool thing is once you wrap your head around it the whole thing becomes clear and it's really not a hard thing to do. I thought I'd post pics of my diagrams in case anybody has a tribute of this variety and they want to do this mod. I'll also include the SC inside diagram as well. As you can see, some wires need to be removed and some need to be added. Feel free to double check my work but as far as I can tell it's bullet proof. My tribute did not have the capacitors in it so their not in the diagrams.
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Cool Wiring. Only I prefer the three way switches with series/single coil/parallel. I used to have an additional switch on my Tribby for inside/outside coils, but I took it off because I almost always left it in "outside coils" position.

But a cool mod to your mod might be a three way switch rather than the two but with selection of inside or outside single coil or parallel with both. I don't know if I'd do it according to my previous preferences, but a lot of people do like to use both inside and outside coil settings and the series settings really aren't the greatest. That is if the wiring of such a mod could be worked out.

And by the way, I have the .1 caps (which give you a 3 dB bass boost in series mode) on a push-pull switch on the tone control. I like that!
 
#253
bassbenj said:
Cool Wiring. Only I prefer the three way switches with series/single coil/parallel. I used to have an additional switch on my Tribby for inside/outside coils, but I took it off because I almost always left it in "outside coils" position.

But a cool mod to your mod might be a three way switch rather than the two but with selection of inside or outside single coil or parallel with both. I don't know if I'd do it according to my previous preferences, but a lot of people do like to use both inside and outside coil settings and the series settings really aren't the greatest. That is if the wiring of such a mod could be worked out.

And by the way, I have the .1 caps (which give you a 3 dB bass boost in series mode) on a push-pull switch on the tone control. I like that!
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Thanks! It can be done that way (parallel, inside and outside) with a three way switch and I'll probably do that when my switch arrives. :bassist:

I really learned a lot over the last couple of days regarding pickup wiring and ways to manipulate it all.
 
#254
Bean639 said:
Hello. This is my first post here. I've had a 83 SB-2 for over ten years. I've played 100s of shows and recorded multiple albums with this trusty bass that I love so dearly. It might just be my bass, but I've always been disappointed with the fundamental of this bass. That caused me to buy my Dingwall in 2011. No lack of fundamental there!

Recently I just joined a very serious project that uses some really funky tunings. Due to the tuning it is almost useless to have a 5 string. Long story short, I'm back on the G&L again. Still lacking on my fundamental/low end.

Here is my question. I'm considering (for many more reasons that I haven't mentioned) buying a L-2000. Do you guys think the fundamental of that instrument is inherently stronger? Also, (I know you guys get this one ALL the time, sorry). What neck on the L-2000 would be the neck that is most similar to my SB-2? I BELIEVE the neck on the SB-2 is basically a precision neck. To be clear, it's an 83(4) SB-2. A little different than the current production SB-2s.


Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Jason
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I also had SB-2 83 and I sold it. Now I'm playing L2000 81'. I agree that SB-2 may lack some fundamentals. I believe due to wood which is alder I think. L2000 is basically ash and is much heavier and has for sure more fundamentals. Also active electronics may add some fundamentals. If you ae looking for similar neck early L2000 have very similar necks to 1st gen SB2. Both are very precision like, I agree.
 
#255
I had someone tell me that mine is maple. ...maybe got that from the serial number? I can't remember. Like I said, it's been a long journey with my SB-2. It looks like the journey will continue. I was going to sell one of my rigs to finance the L-2000. Well, life happens. My primary rig, Carvin b-2000 and berg nv215 literally exploded last night. I can't blame the gear, I did something pretty stupid. I still need to troubleshoot the cab, but I'm sure the head is at best going to a tech. Don't feel too bad for me though. My other rig is an Ampeg SVT-CL and ampeg 810.

The L-2000 will just have to wait. :(
 
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Bean639 said:
Hello. This is my first post here. I've had a 83 SB-2 for over ten years. I've played 100s of shows and recorded multiple albums with this trusty bass that I love so dearly. It might just be my bass, but I've always been disappointed with the fundamental of this bass. That caused me to buy my Dingwall in 2011. No lack of fundamental there!

Recently I just joined a very serious project that uses some really funky tunings. Due to the tuning it is almost useless to have a 5 string. Long story short, I'm back on the G&L again. Still lacking on my fundamental/low end.

Here is my question. I'm considering (for many more reasons that I haven't mentioned) buying a L-2000. Do you guys think the fundamental of that instrument is inherently stronger? Also, (I know you guys get this one ALL the time, sorry). What neck on the L-2000 would be the neck that is most similar to my SB-2? I BELIEVE the neck on the SB-2 is basically a precision neck. To be clear, it's an 83(4) SB-2. A little different than the current production SB-2s.


Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Jason
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I have both L2000 and the later generation SB2, and I gotta say, my SB2 has fundamentals in spades. The tone is naturally thick, and I pretty much have to turn down the bass knob on my amp so that audience at the other end of the bar doesn't just hear bass booming and no guitar. Even notes coming from the g-string express strong fundamentals, which I cannot say the same for my L2000. However, L2000 provides a better balance between strong fundamentals and sound variety.

Why not swap your '83 SB2 for one of a later version?
 

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