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Thanks for your note! I hadn't considered the L-1000 but it looks like I must! I assume the OMG mode is in Series?
Thanks! So P-style MFD would be any in the SB family then? I really love the body of the SB-1, so comfort is a big factor too.
Right and full and modern aren't necessarily what I'm going for. I play with flats and almost exclusively have the tone either fully rolled off or at 75%. I wonder if that type of setting would get to thump and away from modern.
Exactly. That's why I love the Kiloton and I'm thinking an MFD P-Style would be incredible.
Nice looking bass! I really like that burst.
As others have said, the right flats and some foam can always get you in the direction you want to go pretty quickly.
Just to clarify my earlier comment, I don't think the SB-1 would be a bad choice by any stretch, especially if you like the SB/Kilo body shape. But from my experience, which includes among others an L-1000, a couple of second-gen SB-2s with tone controls added, an LB-100, and an L-1500 (precursor to the Kilo), I have appreciated the SB-2s more as a modern P with rounds and my L-1000 just nails the tone I want from vintage thumpy flats. I do find that rolling off a little low end on the L-1000 and L-2000 helps with flats.
Edit: Oh, and the OMG on the L-1000 is instead of series. So you have parallel, single coil and OMG.
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Thanks that's really helpful. Body shape is a big deal for me so that may be the ultimate decider. Your note about the L-1000 nailing the vintage thump is really making me reconsider though.
Re the OMG mode, I was wondering if OMG = Series. I guess I'm thinking from the Kiloton perspective but perhaps it's a different coil tap entirely?
I'm a bit confused about OMG mode. I have a USA L2500. Is the series mode on that basically the same as OMG?
No. OMG cuts treble on one of the coils in conjunction with series. I find series mode to be more useful than OMG. Series mode also has less noise.
Edit: Clarifying my point on more useful. OMG has plenty of low end, but so does series. OMG introduces noise. If I want to get close to OMG without noise, I can do it in series and roll off some treble. It is not exactly the same, but it gets to basically the same place without introducing noise.
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basically, but with a capacitor in the circuit as a simple LPF to pull back the high frequencies
Thanks! I never felt like series mode needed any less treble, it's pretty fat and woofy already!
You can just remove the cap, and then OMG becomes Series. Or vice verca, add the cap to take Series to OMG.
It's just kind of a dull grey speckled looking thing.Oh, you have an L-2500? I'm not sure I've ever seen pictures of it .....
Love the SB-2, old school tobacco sunburst? Nice pics also
If I back the tone off on my SB-1, it certainly has more thump and less treble bite. I usually run the volume up full, I'm going to have to try turning it down some to see how it affects the tone. It still sounds much fuller than a Precision bass, better to my ears. More full sounding and less midrange. Ideally you would try an SB-1 and an L-1000 side by side, but good luck with that. Maybe the L-1000 is a bit less aggressive sounding, from what I read. I want an L1K, in the future !!
You may have seen this video, it compares the SB-1 to the LB-100.
And Lobsters L-1000 video, it's good also
I have one end of the cap un-soldered & taped on my '80 L-1000 fretless. I like series but with fingers OMG is fretless mud although it's a different take on fretted with a pick.That one's un-soldered too.
Thump can be had from all G&L's mentioned (plus SB 1st gens) and if not- I, respectfully, don't blame the bass.
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Thanks! Yep definitely seen those videos too. It sounds like the L-1000 would be less aggressive, but then again I rarely see SB-1 videos where both the V and T are rolled off some. Flats and foam may be the ticket.
The character of the SB-1's split pickup responds to changes in height. A rounded sound is possible with steel rounds, with the MFD still giving clarity, responsiveness and a full rich tone. Usually, both knobs are doing something other than sitting on 11, but that's what they're there for, right?
It's a very flexible set up, you just have to choose where to position its spectrum.
It's a very flexible set up, you just have to choose where to position its spectrum.
The L-1000's (and 2000's) MFD is as aggressive as any other in that family, and it can be run that way, but the twin tone controls do allow more flexibility than with the SB series. Using bass cut and lowering the pickups and volume gets one very much into P-bass territory, especially with the parallel setting, IME. I guess I like my SB-2 so much precisely because it really takes that P-personality to a more aggressive level
. Both are great flavors, but they are different.
Just to shout out: just gigged my 1991 « Leo Fender Signature » L2K and I swear this is my best bass at the moment. A ton of great sounds and I don't even have the 9V battery installed.
Got it for a nice price last year, and all it needed to become great was a fret leveling.
Got it for a nice price last year, and all it needed to become great was a fret leveling.
