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G&L Club Part 7

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Given that the MJ-4 stock pups were dual coil, I wonder if that's where the sound difference comes between it and the JB.

Huh. News to me. My MJ-5 had significant hum when used with one pickup only and that doesn't seem consistent with the dual coil notion—or perhaps the coils were side-by-side in the 4-string and there's an asymmetry in the 5-string. In any case, if you do a web search, this page describing the MJ-4 still shows up despite it no longer being available. And there's bi-coil pickup wording.

Like some others here, I never found my MJ-5's tone very inspiring: kind of vanilla bland. The however-many-coils J pickups and the M-series preamp just didn't do it for me, although that preamp in my M2500 is terrific. The straight J pickups in my JB-5 (no bi-coils) on the other hand are really excellent.
 
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I love my JB2 Trib! But not everyone is in love with those G&L J pickups.
I know i LOVE the sound of them in my US JB2. I owned a '13 US Fender J with the Custom Shop '62 pickups prior to getting my jb2. (Sold after, i fell in instant love with the JB2's more compact body).
The sound is pretty similar, but i think the GL has more depth and clarity, and a brighter tone.
Seems I've read somewhere that the tribute models use different components/pickups to the US versions.
(?)
 
I know i LOVE the sound of them in my US JB2. I owned a '13 US Fender J with the Custom Shop '62 pickups prior to getting my jb2. (Sold after, i fell in instant love with the JB2's more compact body).
The sound is pretty similar, but i think the GL has more depth and clarity, and a brighter tone.
Seems I've read somewhere that the tribute models use different components/pickups to the US versions.
(?)
As far as I know, the tributes have the same pickups and bridge as the US models
 
I know i LOVE the sound of them in my US JB2. I owned a '13 US Fender J with the Custom Shop '62 pickups prior to getting my jb2. (Sold after, i fell in instant love with the JB2's more compact body).
The sound is pretty similar, but i think the GL has more depth and clarity, and a brighter tone.
Seems I've read somewhere that the tribute models use different components/pickups to the US versions.
(?)

That was certainly true at some point (e.g. my Tribute JB-2) which, had it had stronger signal, could have been insipid.:rollno:
 
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Like some others here, I never found my MJ-5's tone very inspiring: kind of vanilla bland. The however-many-coils J pickups and the M-series preamp just didn't do it for me, although that preamp in my M2500 is terrific. The straight J pickups in my JB-5 (no bi-coils) on the other hand are really excellent.

Yes, the JB-5 pickups sound fantastic. Even though I hate single coil hum, I have no intention of swapping them out.

I've never played an MJ-series bass, but from Ed Friedland's review of the MJ-4, it seems they were going for a "plain vanilla" active J-bass tone. If so, mission accomplished IMO. Nothing wrong with it, but not my thing:

 
For the series, single, parallel, or K mod on the L series does it require pickups with the extra blue wire? Pardon my ignorance but I'm a little confused. All the diagrams I can find show the extra blue wire.

I thought it was a mod you can do to a stock L bass that didn't require anything but a different kind of switch?
 
Yes, the JB-5 pickups sound fantastic. Even though I hate single coil hum, I have no intention of swapping them out.

I've never played an MJ-series bass, but from Ed Friedland's review of the MJ-4, it seems they were going for a "plain vanilla" active J-bass tone. If so, mission accomplished IMO. Nothing wrong with it, but not my thing:


That sounds really great to me, and I'm normally not a fan of active electronics.
It would be even better if the preamp was switchable,
 
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Did anyone see this-
Extremely Rare G&L ASAT Bass Late 90's Blue Burst With Factory Microtonal / Quarter Tone Fretboard | Flotsam & Jetsam | Reverb

I don't even know what to say! Pretty cool but not sure what I would do with it


that may be the weirdest thing I've ever seen, and I'm extremely surprised the factory did that.
 
Huh. News to me. My MJ-5 had significant hum when used with one pickup only and that doesn't seem consistent with the dual coil notion—or perhaps the coils were side-by-side in the 4-string and there's an asymmetry in the 5-string. In any case, if you do a web search, this page describing the MJ-4 still shows up despite it no longer being available. And there's bi-coil pickup wording.

Like some others here, I never found my MJ-5's tone very inspiring: kind of vanilla bland. The however-many-coils J pickups and the M-series preamp just didn't do it for me, although that preamp in my M2500 is terrific. The straight J pickups in my JB-5 (no bi-coils) on the other hand are really excellent.
They have four leads and two coils.

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They have four leads and two coils.
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Well, I wonder how that was supposed to translate into the MJ-5? There was nothing humbucking about mine... Still, here's the old MJ-5 page from G&L where they talk about the bi-coil pickups. [Edit] To quote:

"A G&L Alnico Bi-coil pickup looks just like a classic Alnico single-coil, but under the cover are two side-by-side coils, configured in series-humbucking mode."

3+2 poles per coil?
 
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Well, I wonder how that was supposed to translate into the MJ-5? There was nothing humbucking about mine... Still, here's the old MJ-5 page from G&L where they talk about the bi-coil pickups. [Edit] To quote:

"A G&L Alnico Bi-coil pickup looks just like a classic Alnico single-coil, but under the cover are two side-by-side coils, configured in series-humbucking mode."

3+2 poles per coil?

I would assume 3+2, which is how Nordstrand does it:

NJ5S Hum-Cancelling
 
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I would assume 3+2, which is how Nordstrand does it:
NJ5S Hum-Cancelling

Can't see any further explanation on that Nordstrand page (3+2 or elsewise) other than their also stating that their pickups are hum-cancelling. I wonder if 3+2 is close enough, although they do call their pickups hum-free. I'm presuming there isn't an entire ghost coil somewhere in the design.

Edit: Found this image ostensibly from Nordstrand on Pinterest:

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Can't see how this would be fully hum-cancelling. Improved certainly.
 
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For the series, single, parallel, or K mod on the L series does it require pickups with the extra blue wire? Pardon my ignorance but I'm a little confused. All the diagrams I can find show the extra blue wire.

I thought it was a mod you can do to a stock L bass that didn't require anything but a different kind of switch?
No, not at all. Very easy mod to do. Just a switch change. It's my favorite mode on mine.

I'll see if I can find the diagram I used. Take pictures before you start.
 
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Yes, the JB-5 pickups sound fantastic. Even though I hate single coil hum, I have no intention of swapping them out.

I've never played an MJ-series bass, but from Ed Friedland's review of the MJ-4, it seems they were going for a "plain vanilla" active J-bass tone. If so, mission accomplished IMO. Nothing wrong with it, but not my thing:


Mission accomplished! I'm unsure why G&L would go down that road.

I still think a jazz bass with half an L2K pickup would be pretty unique.
 
Can't see any further explanation on that Nordstrand page (3+2 or elsewise) other than their also stating that their pickups are hum-cancelling. I wonder if 3+2 is close enough, although they do call their pickups hum-free. I'm presuming there isn't an entire ghost coil somewhere in the design.

Edit: Found this image ostensibly from Nordstrand on Pinterest:

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Can't see how this would be fully hum-cancelling. Improved certainly.

On the page I posted, there's a photo showing the 3+2 design, but you need to select it at the right of the large image.

I used a set for awhile in a 2008 Fender Jazz V, and I never noticed any hum at all. They had a more modern "shiny" tone than the stock Fender pickups (which IIRC sounded like the JB-5's pickups), which I wasn't crazy about, but to their credit they really came alive in a band mix. They recorded well too.
 
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