MM, I've got a couple of spare guitars and some green spray paint..... I'll get right on it!!!!
Sounds like a plan to me !
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Gay Musicians
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Sounds like a plan to me !
i'm openly gay, and it hasn't been an issue with either of my bands. actually, i've found that getting my gay friends to be interested in music is much more of a challenge.
Great thread. It's nice to read the openness of the posts and to know that TB is so open-minded and supportive!
In my life, I've gotten to know different groups of gay people through an ex-girlfriend (who has a gay cousin), and my current girlfriend (who has a close gay friend). Always have a really fun time when I get to hang out with them at parties or events. Through my girlfriend's connection, our band played in a gay club. Great show, great time. In fact, I way preferred playing there to many of the other places I've played at where there's often been some obnoxiously drunk jerk who's harrassed someone I know, or gotten up on stage, or started messing with equipment. At the gay club, the vibes were cool and everyone was just out to mingle and have a good time, and it turned out to be just a great experience.
Also, having talked on a deeper level to my ex-gf's cousin (who is gay), what he said echoes what I've read in some of the posts, in that straight people have the luxury of taking so much for granted what a gay person can't.
In regard to the OP, I can relate, albeit in a very indirect way, in the sense that I wish I had a group of really close friends who also share the same passion for similar music that I like. My closest friends now aren't musicians, and they understandably just don't "get" the music that I listen to. Seeing "foreign" live jazz/fusion/funk in Japan is expensive, so it's really hard to get my friends to come with me, and when some of them have come, I've found myself worrying about whether or not it was their cup of tea considering the tickets aren't cheap.
Then, there are my bandmates and musicians I know, and while there is an overlap as far as the music we are into, we aren't into the exact same things. And the bigger thing is that I'm not really close friends with the musicians I know. I get along with my bandmates, and it's a great "professional" relationship. But they aren't the first people I'd think of calling up to hang out over beers etc... Anyway, I hope I haven't derailed the thread entirely, but, at least I thought I had a relevant point in there somewhere...
In my life, I've gotten to know different groups of gay people through an ex-girlfriend (who has a gay cousin), and my current girlfriend (who has a close gay friend). Always have a really fun time when I get to hang out with them at parties or events. Through my girlfriend's connection, our band played in a gay club. Great show, great time. In fact, I way preferred playing there to many of the other places I've played at where there's often been some obnoxiously drunk jerk who's harrassed someone I know, or gotten up on stage, or started messing with equipment. At the gay club, the vibes were cool and everyone was just out to mingle and have a good time, and it turned out to be just a great experience.
Also, having talked on a deeper level to my ex-gf's cousin (who is gay), what he said echoes what I've read in some of the posts, in that straight people have the luxury of taking so much for granted what a gay person can't.
In regard to the OP, I can relate, albeit in a very indirect way, in the sense that I wish I had a group of really close friends who also share the same passion for similar music that I like. My closest friends now aren't musicians, and they understandably just don't "get" the music that I listen to. Seeing "foreign" live jazz/fusion/funk in Japan is expensive, so it's really hard to get my friends to come with me, and when some of them have come, I've found myself worrying about whether or not it was their cup of tea considering the tickets aren't cheap.
Then, there are my bandmates and musicians I know, and while there is an overlap as far as the music we are into, we aren't into the exact same things. And the bigger thing is that I'm not really close friends with the musicians I know. I get along with my bandmates, and it's a great "professional" relationship. But they aren't the first people I'd think of calling up to hang out over beers etc... Anyway, I hope I haven't derailed the thread entirely, but, at least I thought I had a relevant point in there somewhere...
Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany and the Holocaust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust
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Very strange as the Nazi leadership was rife with gays and lesbians. More of the butch variety, though it is claimed Goering was a major queen. Hitler Youth had the reputation of being a place where your kid would get molested.
The NAZIs were hypocrites?!
I was looking thru my old posts and had forgotten i had posted about needing a pink bass on this thread. It just so happens i recently ordered a few cans of shell pink from reranch...
I'm not gay, but in the last full time band I was in (1978 thru 1982) our keyboard player was. He joined us around 1980 and we had no idea at all that he was gay. Forgive me for putting it like this and I mean no offense, but he didn't "act" gay. After about 6 months he told us because..."it's going to come out sooner or later." Didn't matter one bit at all to us, didn't change our attitude toward him and we still considered him a brother.
He was a great, creative fun guy to be around and I miss him. But due to his risky lifestyle he aquired AIDS and died in 1995. What a waste.
God keep you, old friend.
He was a great, creative fun guy to be around and I miss him. But due to his risky lifestyle he aquired AIDS and died in 1995. What a waste.
God keep you, old friend.
My belated condolences Mike. Losing someone you shared the magic of making music with must have been tough.
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Under abnormal circumstances people tend to live abnormally.
Gradually improving social conditions (in the West anyway) are offering more LGBT'ers opportunities and incentives to pursue monogamous relationships which have legal parity with those enjoyed by others.
Time will tell if this option becomes predominant. I predict that it will because few folks want to grow old all alone.
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Under abnormal circumstances people tend to live abnormally.
Gradually improving social conditions (in the West anyway) are offering more LGBT'ers opportunities and incentives to pursue monogamous relationships which have legal parity with those enjoyed by others.
Time will tell if this option becomes predominant. I predict that it will because few folks want to grow old all alone.
Still working on it. I have ordered a new maple neck with block inlays and a babicz bridge
will post pics when completed. its my first project so we shall see..
Still working on it. I have ordered a new maple neck with block inlays and a babicz bridge
will post pics when completed. its my first project so we shall see..
The folks here build & finish plenty of guitars on a frequent basis:
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They may have some useful how-to's available.
I think it depends on the music you're doing - and the age group you're hanging with. Some genres are heavy on the masculine aggression thing - some are just redneck...
I've played with gay guys & gals before - but at my age, and the types of music I play, everyone is grown up and calm - so no one gives a damn. When I was 18 and playing ROCK AND ROLL it might have been different.
I've played with gay guys & gals before - but at my age, and the types of music I play, everyone is grown up and calm - so no one gives a damn. When I was 18 and playing ROCK AND ROLL it might have been different.
First let me start off by saying that I have not read every post in this thread, so if I am repeating someone else I do apologize.
Now to my two cents:
I am straight, I do not care about who does what...a person's sexual preference is there business. Who am I to look down on someone because of that, as far as that goes how can anyone really look down on that. I have friends and family members that are gay. It does not bother me in the least. Hell, some of my funniest memories I have are with my gay friends.
I saw the post and found it to be intriguing. I would like to add a thought here. As quoted above, you cannot connect with straight musicians.
This is purely hypothetical...
1) Maybe the other musicians are homophobic? Granted, it is narrow minded and purely ignorant, but very common.
2) Maybe you cannot connect due to other reasons, personality for example. Not because of your sexual preference...I do not intend this to come across as harsh or negative. Just maybe there is a personality conflict? I know people use the term "Gay" with various meanings. Do you tend to act overly "flamboyant" or as some of my friends have put it "butch"? If it is the first, that may turn some people off.
I don't know you and I am not a shrink! I do, however, know people. Sometimes there are people that just rub others the wrong way.
Whatever the case is, I hope you find a musician you can connect with. I could only imagine how much it would suck not to have friends to talk gear and music with. I know, my best friend died a couple of years ago and we always dished gear and music...I have other friends to talk with but having the "special" connection is a rare find.
Good Luck.
I am a lesbian.
I have not met any other lesbian bass players in my area, yet. My partner is a transgender man. That means that he was born an female, but identifies with the male gender. he does not take testisterone, yet nor has had sex reassignment surgery.
And just to clarify, although my partner is still a biological female, its respectful to refer to use masculine pronouns when referring to him. the same goes for transgender females(born male identify female).
I have not met any other lesbian bass players in my area, yet. My partner is a transgender man. That means that he was born an female, but identifies with the male gender. he does not take testisterone, yet nor has had sex reassignment surgery.
And just to clarify, although my partner is still a biological female, its respectful to refer to use masculine pronouns when referring to him. the same goes for transgender females(born male identify female).
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Now if you find any cool gay guitarist that play green guitars you best let me know right away !
Killin' me MM!!!
LOL!!
I've played with openly gay musicians, and one who wasn't open to very many people. I felt honored to be one of the few to hold onto his "secret" so to speak.
I really could care less what your preference is. Same applies to women musicians I know in terms of a "relationship" deal. I'm not interested so let it go. (married/str8 BTW).
Not to say that either would want to pick me up, I'm a mess for sure, but my point is most male musicians flatter themselves WAY too much and think if a guy is gay, instantly they want to hook up.
Err.....no.
At least IME.
I like chicks. You like dudes.
So what. At the end of the day, I'm the last person to pass judgment.
Again, I'm a mess. I need to clean my own house before I white glove someone elses.....Plus I'd rather be judged by my character as much as judge by someone's character. Not their sexual orientation.
