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Genz Benz Streamliner Part 3!!!!

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NWB said:
Water, if I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you may have some concerns about the "punchiness" of the amp. I may have similar tone goals in that regard.

I rather like a very direct and punchy tone and held some concern that the SL would be a bit too smooth, along the lines of some notable tube amps. I had the notion that it wouldn't be quick and punchy enough for my sound.

The big caveat here is that I was using a Neox 212 cab which is noted for "punchiness".

All that said, while I think the SL is capable of some fairly smooth and squishy tones, it definitely has the capacity to blast its way through a dense sound mix.

In short, my concerns weren't born-out and found all the punch and slam that I could ever want in it.

I hope you can find one to try out to hear for yourself.
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I have to confess, my question was a little tongue-in-cheek, but as it happens your reply was incredibly useful. Thanks! :)

I just need this slow boat to arrive.... *drums fingers*
 
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mikeluch said:
Thanks for the feedback, maybe I need to better define old school. I am not saying I need earth shattering lows, boominess etc, but the sound I am getting particulary with the Max 12 is a little too hi-fi for me. Not enough in the low registers, a little sterile, even with the tube channel or mix, I can't seem to dial it in. Just looking for a tighter, a little deeper bass punch. the Schroeders just don't seem to do it and I dont know if the SL will help at all
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The Max amps aren't lacking in lows, but Genz amps typically have a tight, controlled low end and are nice and quick, so the Schroeders are definitely not going to help out. IMO, your odds of finding what you're looking for by getting a new cab are much higher than the odds of the Streamliner making your cabs give you what you want.
 
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KsPiNeSh said:
The Max amps aren't lacking in lows, but Genz amps typically have a tight, controlled low end and are nice and quick, so the Schroeders are definitely not going to help out. IMO, your odds of finding what you're looking for by getting a new cab are much higher than the odds of the Streamliner making your cabs give you what you want.
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Suggestions?? Looking for somewhat portable cabs, not adverse to multiple smaller cabs
 
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Talked to mike a YOMS today. He has been 100% honest and helpful every time I have spoken with him. I upgraded my order from an SL 600 to a 900, so there will be an additional 600 available soon. He is expecting a new shipment in the next 7-9 days. My advice: if you need a streamliner immediately, shop elsewhere. If you have rig that can get you through the next 2 weeks, save a couple hundred bucks and call Mike at YOMS. For those waiting, just call him!
 
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I would NOT say the SL900 is squishy ..
I mean you could make it that way if you want to by driving teh heck out of it.
... But there is alot of headroom up front.. so if you run your input gain lower.The amp has alot of punch..It Is Not A Wimp..
Now depending on your cabs. if you EQ in a little 220hx you can really feel it in your chest..
It responds fast too..
Who started the rumor that if there is a tube in the circuit it has to be mushy or slow..:rollno: That is certainly not a fact at all..
The SL900 certainly can do clean too.. The silky type of clean, not a clanky / clicky and abrasive type. ..

TO Paraphrase Ed Freidland .. you would have to work real hard to try and get a bad sound from this amp..

It is punchy and has great attack... or if you Gain it up with the Gain Switch you can dial in tube compression or Gain it all the way and get Distortion.
The best thing is to try one out... This amp really departs from what a micro used to sound like..


NWB said:
Water, if I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you may have some concerns about the "punchiness" of the amp. I may have similar tone goals in that regard.

I rather like a very direct and punchy tone and held some concern that the SL would be a bit too smooth, along the lines of some notable tube amps. I had the notion that it wouldn't be quick and punchy enough for my sound.

The big caveat here is that I was using a Neox 212 cab which is noted for "punchiness".

All that said, while I think the SL is capable of some fairly smooth and squishy tones, it definitely has the capacity to blast its way through a dense sound mix.

In short, my concerns weren't born-out and found all the punch and slam that I could ever want in it.

I hope you can find one to try out to hear for yourself.
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I heard from a little bird that yes the SL900 will hang with the super-duper clean of the SA200 with no issues.......
Like a REAL good tube mic pre kinda clean.
 
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faulknersj said:
Talked to mike a YOMS today. He has been 100% honest and helpful every time I have spoken with him. I upgraded my order from an SL 600 to a 900, so there will be an additional 600 available soon. He is expecting a new shipment in the next 7-9 days. My advice: if you need a streamliner immediately, shop elsewhere. If you have rig that can get you through the next 2 weeks, save a couple hundred bucks and call Mike at YOMS. For those waiting, just call him!
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Did he say the 600's are ever coming in? If not I might just cancel my order.
 
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edfriedland said:
I personally like the idea of having both the Streamliner and the Shuttle. They are both Genz Benz bass amps, but they handle the instrument in very different ways. The Streamliner really has the "tube sag", and killer OD if you want. It can go clean and loud, but it still has the squish of a tube amp. The Shuttle has a tighter, faster response, even the tube channel. It may seems excessive to some... but I see lots of guys here with more than one amp.... so I say instead of one vs. the other - the answer is, both!
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kim
 
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Adivin, what changed my mind is resale value. I think a 900 will be easier to unload if it is not what I want. Believe me, the 600 watts in my Shuttlemax is WAY more that I need; in fact, soundmen constantly ask me to turn down with the Master volume pre amp level at 50% and the volume knob at 25%. Mooch, I would give him a jingle. My guess is that the 600 will be in that next batch that he expects to arrive in about a week.
 
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faulknersj said:
Talked to mike a YOMS today. He has been 100% honest and helpful every time I have spoken with him. I upgraded my order from an SL 600 to a 900, so there will be an additional 600 available soon. He is expecting a new shipment in the next 7-9 days. My advice: if you need a streamliner immediately, shop elsewhere. If you have rig that can get you through the next 2 weeks, save a couple hundred bucks and call Mike at YOMS. For those waiting, just call him!
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+1...if you want the price...you take your place in line...and...wait...like many of us have done...I am still waiting...but I understood that going in...I have the utmost faith that this dealer is doing all that they can to deliver the amps as quickly as they can...

Kim
 
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Well thing is its not a big deal if I wait because we have no upcoming gigs as we are recording, but I just can't seem to grasp how someone has no clue whats coming to him and when. And when it seems like its so easy for every other dealer to give dates and what not to all these other nice talkbass folks, this guy seems to be totally in the dark. He and I quote told me and maybe our resident Genz Benz Mareting guru can verify this.

"They can only build 15 to 20 amps per day." Any truth to this? If so wither way true or not will tell me all I will ever need to know about this dealer. If true then I get why such a pain to get this amp. If not then I call BS on anything he tells anyone LOL. Hears to having a streamliner by spring. ;)
 
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mikeluch said:
Suggestions?? Looking for somewhat portable cabs, not adverse to multiple smaller cabs
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You can listen to my clips with two different Bergs. Fwiw in the final analysis I'm going with a pair of AE210s. They are about the most portable cabinet I've found - frankly easier to schlep than the 112, and a single one will cover most gigs. I plan to run the pair for larger (especially outdoor) gigs. I always run them vertical (installed a second set of feet) and the new AE210 will be vertical from the factory.
 
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