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Genz Benz Streamliner-Pt 2

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#724
SoonerMatt said:
How does an upright sound through it? Some on the DB side have been eying it.
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My Shuttle 9.0 kills with Upright using an 8 ohm 2x10 cab or one 8 ohm 1x12 cab. I can only ascertain the Streamliner will only be better. :)

There is just nothing like being able to take one 8 ohm small cab and be able to pummel with either Upright or Electric. :hyper::bassist:
 
#725
Well, I didn't shoot anything with upright.... and I'm deep into edit mode now, so I won't get around to that, sorry. However I tried both my uprights through it, and it sounds great. The input impedance is 1M ohm, even higher than the Shuttles, so there's no pickup loading. It's a big sound, very cushy. I think out of my two basses, I liked the gut strings through it the best - I have Realist pickups on both basses, but the extra bottom really brought out the best in my plywood. This amp would certainly compete with a psycho-billy guitarist cranking a Gretsch through a Bassman.
 
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edfriedland said:
Well, I didn't shoot anything with upright.... and I'm deep into edit mode now, so I won't get around to that, sorry. However I tried both my uprights through it, and it sounds great. The input impedance is 1M ohm, even higher than the Shuttles, so there's no pickup loading. It's a big sound, very cushy. I think out of my two basses, I liked the gut strings through it the best - I have Realist pickups on both basses, but the extra bottom really brought out the best in my plywood. This amp would certainly compete with a psycho-billy guitarist cranking a Gretsch through a Bassman.
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Cool Ed! I was mentioning earlier in this thread that the high input impedance versus most amps (including the rest of the Genz line) is a nice detail, and should make these amps very 'passive bass' friendly (along with piezo's).

Nice 'consistency' in the execution of the design goals of a modern head with a strong nod to 'back in the day':bassist:
 
#729
I did some playing on my 72 P, the Airline Map, and the CARVIN SB5000 for the active/passive.

The input impedance is higher than the Shuttle, but the Shuttle 6.0/12t combo is still my favorite upright amp. It's clean, loud, flexible, light, and I can plug the Realist straight in with no buffer preamp.

But that is more for jazz gigs, I could really see the Streamliner sounding best with ol' Jethro (my gut strung plywood) on a honky tonk or rockabilly gig.
 
#731
It is nice to see the input impedance is 1M ohms, though I doubt I'd quit using my Fdeck at 10M ohms, a HPF, and Phase switch. The Fdeck has got to be the best little box ever built for Upright Bass.

I don't think it would make much a difference for active or passive electric Basses from the Shuttle's 500k ohms. If there were any difference it would be very subtle. I should say the 500k of the Shuttles is higher than most average bass amp to start with.
 
#732
Whoa, this input impedance thing is getting taken as something more than it really is.

First of all the Shuttle input impedance is not 500k, it's listed in the spec as >500k and it's roughly 850k or a smidge higher. The Streamliner is right around 1M give or take a few percent.

All of our amps are designed to work well with all types of pickups, specifically including piezos. After all, we have our Shenandoah acoustic amp line that's probably used primarily with piezos. Incidently, the Shen Pro and Compact 300 make nice upright amps as well.
 
#734
I stand corrected.

Again not much audible difference between 850k and 1M for passive bass or anything else for that matter.

The simple fact that Genz Benz makes their amps this high is definitely a major plus. You do not get a good feel for this until you try to plug your Upright into something much lower and get no sound at all.

I have used my Realist pickup straight into my Shuttle 9.0 with very good results. The nice thing about using the Fdeck pre is being able to control the low end with the HPF on the fly but not have another piece of gear. My Fdeck is velcro'ed to my bass and stays there.

I suspect I can get close to my tone with the Streamliner 900 with some pleasant surprises in the way the amp reacts. I can not imagine more authority but the 3DPM has my interest tweaked.
 
#735
Twas looking at the manual....

Cool I see you guys made the Aux Input receive a stereo signal and sum them. That is definitely a pain with my Zune to sum them prior to the Shuttle 9.0 but is still a plus. Not having the extra cables will be nice when working on a tune.

Still no USB port that would send/receive and charge.:bawl:
 
#736
agedhorse said:
Whoa, this input impedance thing is getting taken as something more than it really is.

First of all the Shuttle input impedance is not 500k, it's listed in the spec as >500k and it's roughly 850k or a smidge higher. The Streamliner is right around 1M give or take a few percent.

All of our amps are designed to work well with all types of pickups, specifically including piezos. After all, we have our Shenandoah acoustic amp line that's probably used primarily with piezos. Incidently, the Shen Pro and Compact 300 make nice upright amps as well.
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Those Compact combos are a lot more attractive than the the Shuttle combos with the amp on the outside of the box. :)
 
#740
This amp sounds great with passive or active basses. The gain structure is very flexible - in hi or low gain mode, you can get plenty of clean volume, or you can get gritty and cushy. I dont see this as an either/or situation.

Yeah, I may have over stated the effect of the input impedance, it's just one factor - the input sensitivity is higher than the Shuttles, and that has more to do with the performance.
 
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