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Genz Benz Streamliner Pt 7.....

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agedhorse said:
Wood density varies about 5-7%, so a variation of +/- 2 lbs would not be out of the question. The issue is that the core plys come from a wider range of tree depths and as the log is peeled for ply material, different growth rings have a different density depending on where the tree came from and the climate at the point in chronological time that the peel was stripped. Faster growth yields lighter, lower desnity ply.

The face plys have less influence because they are much thinner as well as more consistent older growth.

Natural products (and tubes ;) are going to have some variation.
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Thanks, understood. :)

Is 36lbs on the site the average weight of just the cab, or is it with packing?

Cheers
 
#302
I've been spending a lot of time playing with my STM900. It is surely robust. I'm learning about the treble control and the zing factor. It just keeps me going bass after bass to see if it will sound as good as the one I'm playing with this amp. So far 6 different instruments all great. But the SR4 is just scarry!
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#303
I just received my SL 900 . I am using a Fender passive J bass and a P bass , but with all the controls, gain , preamp volume and the master at noon and the boost off , I get very little volume from the amp thru my Berg 2x112s cabs. I have to turn the pre amp volume up to about 3 o clock or push the boost in order to start getting some nice volume and sense of power and roar from the amp. Is this typical for this amp or is something wrong ? I pretty much get the same result with my Sadowsky P/J with the preamp engaged.
 
#306
If you are using passive instruments you will not get the output you want without the gain button pressed. I have pretty hot pickups in my J and my P and I can push the gain to 2:00 with the button engaged with zero distortion added. ( You can hear the tubes, but no added grit ). Engage the gain button, and set your gain knob to 12:00 to 2:00 and your volume to 12:00 to 2:00. Use the master for your desired volume. I dial back the lows to tame the fat bottom.

My favorite setting thus far is:

Gain - engaged
Gain knob - 1:30
Volume - 11:00
BASS - 11:00
Mid - 2:00
Mid Freq - 2.5k
Treble - 11:00
Master - As high as they will let me!
 
#307
Dr Funk said:
I've been spending a lot of time playing with my STM900. It is surely robust. I'm learning about the treble control and the zing factor. It just keeps me going bass after bass to see if it will sound as good as the one I'm playing with this amp. So far 6 different instruments all great. But the SR4 is just scarry!
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It's fun rediscovering all your pedals and basses with this amp.
 
#310
In - just picked up my 600 yesterday, first gig tonight. Will report back (and post pix). Putting in a plug for my local music store, sold me a brand new 600 for $599. Best price I've seen anywhere!

Spotlight Music, Fort Collins, CO (no association with me, just love my local guys!)
 
#311
The Streamliner is an amp where the full sweep of the controls is useable. The master volume is particularly progressive, so you won't be at full blast with the volume at 1 o'clock, like some amps.

Still, it's got enough power to spank your cabs pretty hard. If it doesn't move a serious amount of air with the boost button in and the gain and volume controls at 2pm, I would suspect a bad tube, or other problem.
 
#312
steve_rolfeca said:
The Streamliner is an amp where the full sweep of the controls is useable. The master volume is particularly progressive, so you won't be at full blast with the volume at 1 o'clock, like some amps.

Still, it's got enough power to spank your cabs pretty hard. If it doesn't move a serious amount of air with the boost button in and the gain and volume controls at 2pm, I would suspect a bad tube, or other problem.
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#313
3rdcurve said:
If you are using passive instruments you will not get the output you want without the gain button pressed. I have pretty hot pickups in my J and my P and I can push the gain to 2:00 with the button engaged with zero distortion added. ( You can hear the tubes, but no added grit ). Engage the gain button, and set your gain knob to 12:00 to 2:00 and your volume to 12:00 to 2:00. Use the master for your desired volume. I dial back the lows to tame the fat bottom.

My favorite setting thus far is:

Gain - engaged
Gain knob - 1:30
Volume - 11:00
BASS - 11:00
Mid - 2:00
Mid Freq - 2.5k
Treble - 11:00
Master - As high as they will let me!
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Thanks , yes I need to push the gain button in (engaged) to get good output without having to turn the volume up to 2-3:00. There are threads about settings where the posters state they are running the amp with passive basses with the gain button out ( not engaged) and I don't see how they are getting any gig -level volume with this setting.
 
#314
I often use it with gain button out, passive p or j. Seem to be able to run gain at under 12 if I crank the volume up, then turn up the master. Pretty much the same as the Shuttle, but with an extra gain stage-if needed. In this respect.
Perhaps a prob. But like other GB amps controls do have a wide sweep.
I'm getting serious volume with master on 9-10 o'clock.
 
#315
I also find I have to have the gain button in to get a decent level from my passive basses. To be honest I like the sound of my 600 with the gain in so it's not a problem.

After my first gig I posted about my worry that I may not have enough volume compared to my old markbass head but I now find I use the gain knob at around 11 o'clock, volume at about 2 o'clock and this gives me a nice punch without distorting.
 
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rodl2005 said:
Gain-on or off, @about 12 o'clock.volume- depending on clean or grit tone. Bass-9-10, mid-2.30 @ 600. Treble-12-1.
All these vary slightly on cab used, usually Berg AE410, 212 or NV215.
The rest of the band think so too-re-boominess
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The amp tightens up and sounds "quicker" when you run less gain. Try backing it off a couple of clicks, pushing the preamp volume a little harder to compensate, and rolling the bass back even a little more.

On any other amp I've used, rolling the bass back this much would result in a thin, listless tone. Not with the SL.
 
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