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#2,562
Loring said:
As good as the rating was - I still feel it's low...

I think value is quite reasonable considering it's loaded with faital drivers. There isn't much in the way of better value when you consider components, build quality, tonal quality - made in north America, company support etc.all these things need to be considered in the "value equation".
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Thank you for the feedback. FWIW, our 1-5 ratings are a little different than what you might see in other publications (where it seems everything starts at a 5 and only drops if there is a definite problem in that particular category). For BGM ratings, a 3 is considered "average; entirely adequate" and anything above that shows where this product is especially good in that rating category, while anything below shows that for this particular rating category, this particular product is not as strong (relative to the competition). All scores are rated in light of similarly priced competition (to the extent possible). On the value category, the BA12-3 SLT actually rated "above average," despite being one of the most expensive 1x12's currently on the market. The overall score of 4.17 is actually very high (by BGM standards).
 
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Jeff Genzler said:
Sorry for the delay---big snow day yesterday. As mentioned you will not get a Stereo image with your signal input into the amp but you should get both sides of the stereo signal. No part of the signal chain in the amp is stereo, so having 2 speakers connected does not make any difference. You might try a mono summing plug into the Aux In to see if you get both sides. Send me a PM if you'd like and we'll get you all set up on this.
Thank you for using our MG 800.
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Jeff,

I did eventually get the mono summing to work. I was using an older, less reliable cable to do this and using a new cable did the trick.

Another question along these same lines, is there certain content you wouldn't recommend running through the amp, and specifically the MG112T cabs? I was at a rehearsal the other day with a few guys I have a charity gig coming up with and we didn't have a singer or PA present so we were llistening songs we are going to perform and some sounded great (don't come around here no more) and others (rebel rebel) with crunchy guitars sounded a little crispy, at low volumes. It makes sense to me that the horn is not designed for the purpose of reproducing these sounds, just want to make sure it's not dangerous to the integrity of the horn itself to play this kind of thing through the amp/cabs. I don't envision using the Aux input with the cabs too often, definitely more for headphone practice for me.
 
#2,564
3bc said:
Jeff,

I did eventually get the mono summing to work. I was using an older, less reliable cable to do this and using a new cable did the trick.

Another question along these same lines, is there certain content you wouldn't recommend running through the amp, and specifically the MG112T cabs? I was at a rehearsal the other day with a few guys I have a charity gig coming up with and we didn't have a singer or PA present so we were llistening songs we are going to perform and some sounded great (don't come around here no more) and others (rebel rebel) with crunchy guitars sounded a little crispy, at low volumes. It makes sense to me that the horn is not designed for the purpose of reproducing these sounds, just want to make sure it's not dangerous to the integrity of the horn itself to play this kind of thing through the amp/cabs. I don't envision using the Aux input with the cabs too often, definitely more for headphone practice for me.
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Jeff may give an entirely different opinion as me, but I say adjust the horn to not over-emphasized taste and let er rip. Haven't used the 212 in this manner but I have used a pair of the BA12-3 as a PA type music reproduction.
 
#2,565
bebass said:
Jeff may give an entirely different opinion as me, but I say adjust the horn to not over-emphasized taste and let er rip. Haven't used the 212 in this manner but I have used a pair of the BA12-3 as a PA type music reproduction.
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With the little 3" drivers I would definitely do the same. I'm a little more cautious with the horn, which is probably different than a PA horn, and horns in general seem more easily damaged than traditional speakers.
 
#2,568
Djadja said:
Congrats... as soon as I sell a Lowden acoustic I have up for sale, I’m going the other direction and getting the 350 Combo... hopefully sooner rather than later
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I've been thinking how nice a 350 would be for my practice room and those really small Church gigs. Its on my secondary GAS list for sure. First up after the cab addition is a 4 string NYC PJ Sadowsky
 
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Djadja said:
Congrats... as soon as I sell a Lowden acoustic I have up for sale, I’m going the other direction and getting the 350 Combo... hopefully sooner rather than later
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Me too. Looking to trade my 800 for the 350 and some cash and take the cash and buy a BA10-2 and bracket and have myself a combo for jazz gigs.

Then decide if I keep my BA12-3 for outdoor gigs or sell it and get another BA10-2 for a mini stack.
 
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SadowskySteve said:
I've been thinking how nice a 350 would be for my practice room and those really small Church gigs. Its on my secondary GAS list for sure. First up after the cab addition is a 4 string NYC PJ Sadowsky
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Mr Sadowsky makes great instruments. He'll have the new BA12-3 SLT stack with an MG 800 in his booth at NAMM. And...They have something new cooking too.
 
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bwoodman said:
Maybe this has already been covered here, but how do we keep the amp from sliding off the slant cabs? Bracketage?
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I use a stand with my BA12-3 and MG800 and would guess that the angle is at least as much as on the SLT cabs, maybe more. I ‘ve never seen any movement of the head at all at the volumes I’ve played. The texture of the Rolex and the grip of the feet is enough to keep the head in place.
 
#2,578
Loring said:
It's been covered...

You can also route the cables through the top handle then back to the head. The cable tension will stop it from sliding back. As mentioned though - the friction should be enough even without doing this.
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Makes sense - I like that idea of routing cables thru the handle. I have a pair of BA12-3's and they work well for me. I personally have no need to have the cabs aiming up higher, so I have no need / GAS for the new slant cabs. I also have a couple of different size black milk type crates that I keep in the car if I need to elevate the stack (and I'll never have the need for another 112 cab for a 3-high stack), but the slant cab is a good idea. I also have the MG212, so if I ever needed more than the pair of 112's, I'd go with the 212 + 112 - I'm all set!
 
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I've been playing my mixed BA12-3 & BA12-3 SLT stack at practice a lot, and I am really digging not only the better vertical coverage, but also the tighter lows and better overall clarity that the SLT brings to the table. The BA12-3 on its own (or in groups) is of course fantastic, but the SLT brings more than just the angled-back front baffle to the equation. :thumbsup:
 
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tombowlus said:
I've been playing my mixed BA12-3 & BA12-3 SLT stack at practice a lot, and I am really digging not only the better vertical coverage, but also the tighter lows and better overall clarity that the SLT brings to the table. The BA12-3 on its own (or in groups) is of course fantastic, but the SLT brings more than just the angled-back front baffle to the equation. :thumbsup:
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Tighter lows to me is how I describe when I'm playing 10's. Have you sampled the BA210-3 for comparison?
 

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