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Genzler Amplification Club

#242
Well I got the chance to plug my Genzler 800 in for the first time and I love it so far and I'm blown away at the depth of tone I got for the 10 or so minutes I messed with it. Anyone with quick knowledge give me a quick rundown on the 2 contour buttons and what they do. Seemed as thought when lit amber it had more smoothness and when lit Blue it had more clarity. I'm thinking this amp might take the top spot over my Mesa D-800. Will have to see how it does in a live setting first but so far I really like it.
 
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#243
Bassworship1 said:
Well I got the chance to plug my Genzler 800 in for the first time and I love it so far and I'm blown away at the depth of tone I got for the 10 or so minutes I messed with it. Anyone with quick knowledge give me a quick rundown on the 2 contour buttons and what they do. Seemed as thought when lit amber it had more smoothness and when lit Blue it had more clarity. I'm thinking this amp might take the top spot over my Mesa D-800. Will have to see how it does in a live setting first but so far I really like it.
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Blue is a fairly "standard" contour circuit, with a mid-cut and low+high boost, as you turn it up. The amber contour is a mid boost.
 
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#244
kerrycares said:
I got my cab yesterday and couldn't be happier.
For electric bass it is very reminiscent of my Bergantino CN212 in clarity and tone.
I definitely am not missing the tweeter.
It handles my Sadowsky UV70 5 with no problem.

For upright, I think I've found my go to cab.
After trying every cab from Bose to Greenboy that I could get my hands on, this 12" and bass array seem to blend all of the nice tonal characteristics of small speakers and a 12" into one cab.
It is a handsome cab, well built and "feels" lighter than my Acoustic Image Ten2 cab.

I ran both basses through my Acoustic Image dual channel so next I'm going to try my Troll mic and David Gage Realist with my Luciano Golia bass and run my Sadowsy thru my Bugerra.


I tried to find a flaw in this cabinet and was unsuccessful.
In the past the Genz Benz single 12" seemed a little vacat sounding with nasally mids but the array seems to have a much smoother, pleasant response that you'd expect from small diaphragm speakers.

Well done Jeff!
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Hey, did you want a club number?
 
#245
jazzenfunk said:
So I have the Magellan 800. I would like to get a bass array cab but can only afford one. At 8 ohms, 400 watts into the single cab, how loud can it get before being pushed too hard? I don't play stupid loud but don't want to get lost in a live situation. I'm using the mg now through a Tecamp s212 4 ohm cab.
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Hi there - can I interest you in a Club Number?
 
#247
Muzz64 said:
I'd been after some serious modularity in my rig for a wee while, and the prospect of another, louder band to supplement the shortfall in function gigs this year meant I'd been looking at the Magellan and its 2.67 ohm potential for a while.

Sooo...a third Berg AE112 and a Magellan means I can take up to three cabs to gigs and really cover any eventuality.

I've gigged the rig in both 2 cab and 3 cab incarnations, and man, it works. I haven't needed PA support anywhere yet, though I'd take it if needed.

The Magellan is a fantastic amp, the chaps at Genzler have got it absolutely right on the money, and it has an awful lot going for it. The two channels mean I can have real flexibility of tone at a button push (or stomp, if I add a pedal) to switch between them, and the volumes can compensate for bass changes - for example if I wanted, I could run an active bass into the Clean channel, say one of my Shukers, and have a really modern tone, and run a P into the drive channel without having to adjust volumes when switching. It's been described as a combination of the Shuttle and Streamliner, but it's better than that - IME it takes the best of both and does away with the downsides of either (I found the Shuttles a little too clinical and possibly 'brittle', and the biiiig bloom of the Streamliner always need reigning in).

Those Contour options are very 'musical', for want of a better word - they are really interesting if used in combinations with the channels - one's a modern scoop, which you'd think would be best with the Clean channel, the other's a mid-bump and top-end rolloff which you'd think was Drive channel-tastic, but they also work really well with the opposite channels, too, so there's some really interesting things to play with. The Drive channel's drive (dur) is the first non-actual-valve tone which has made me forget there aren't valves in there - it's warm and organic and then some.

The EQ is also very real-world practical and useable - a single parametric mid is plenty for me, but I'm using it sparingly at the moment. A little goes a long way. Again, the word I'd use is 'musical' - it's the word that sums up the East preamps for me, too, and it was what struck me first.

The amp also works very well with playing dynamics (especially the Drive channel), and responds to your input better than anything I've used before. Very satisfying.

And now to the controversial bit - it's no secret where I stand on the 'heft' debate - I've played Class Ds that have had plenty of it, and Class A/Bs that haven't, and the Streamliner I had outlasted all sorts of other amps (11, by my count), but this amp brings a weight to notes that I haven't heard before. Whether it's the new power module, or the Genzler implementation of it, or both (I haven't played any other of the new Class D stuff) I don't know, but it's there. It's not just volume (and with the three cabs there's a play-any-gig amount of that), it's an authority. It's a very long time since I've played through a big all-valve head and an 810 fridge, so I might have rose-tinted specs on here, but if I'm remembering right, that's the impression.

It's immaculately made, reeks quality and is very quiet. On both the three-cab gigs I've played it hasn't even warmed up. Given the longevity with me of the Streamliner, this is gonna be a keeper.

Do I sound happy with it? Yep, I am.
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Club number? :)
 
#251
Regarding Contour B. Along with a slight boost at approx. 200 HZ it also tapers the ultra low freq and has a gentle roll off of the top end starting in the 5K Hz range. Beyond what it does technically it can provide the vibe of a more vintage tone, sealed cab feel.

Thanks for your purchase!
 
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#255
Bassworship1 said:
So does the Clean knob serve as a gain feature? I know the drive is sort of a dirty feature. Just trying to get used to all the features. Was easily able to dial in many diffrent sounds just playing around for 10 or so minutes.
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The CLEAN knob is a Volume control for this channel. It is pristine clean and does not add gain or "grit". The DRIVE channel is designed to add that type of harmonic content if that is what you desire.
If you're looking for simple, quick, clean settings, we have a new Demo video on our Facebook page as well as the Magellan 800 Product Page on our website.

As you've mentioned, "word on the street" is that you can get several very usable setting, quickly and easily with the MG-800.
 
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Did a gig yesterday with my Magellan 800 and two fEarful 12/6's. Sonic nirvana.
I provided the bass backline for myself and a few other players. Everyone was pleased as punch with the power, clarity, and depth.
 
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I recently purchased my Magellan 800 without trying it or even seeing one in the wild.
I have heard nothing but positive opinions on the amp.
I was pretty sure I would like the innovative Contour B control and the drive channel.
With just two full band jams using the amp, I'm loving it.
I quickly arrived at a lush creamy old school sound that works great for blues rock.
Recordings through the DI out sound awesome. Rich full bass tones from the drive and clean channels.

edit: It's important for me to add that the HPF in the drive channel very nicely reduces
the extreme low frequencies that RIC pickups produce.
That helps out big time with smoothing out my sound in our recordings.

I'm not a club number guy, (not unless I can have #4003) I just wanted to share my initial impressions.
edit, I'll take #31 if it's available. I built engines for the 31, a PA Modified dirt track car.

and... the obligatory photo



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jobbermania said:
I recently purchased my Magellan 800 without trying it or even seeing one in the wild.
I have heard nothing but positive opinions on the amp.
I was pretty sure I would like the innovative Contour B control and the drive channel.
With just two full band jams using the amp, I'm loving it.
I quickly arrived at a lush creamy old school sound that works great for blues rock.
Recordings through the DI out sound awesome. Rich full bass tones from the drive and clean channels.
I'm not a club number guy, (not unless I can have #4003) I just wanted to share my initial impressions.
edit, I'll take #31 if it's available. I built engines for the 31, a PA Modified dirt track car.

and... the obligatory photo



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Nice rig!
I must admit that I have not personally played a Ric through the Magellan yet. I hope to soon.
Looks like a pretty heavy duty stand for everything.
 
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Thanks, Jeff, for noticing my DIY stand. Made from all repurposed materials.
The uprights were the kickers from loads of sheetrock.
I wrote a thread two years ago or so about the stand.
I made it to elevate a Peavey 215D so that the upper driver would be near ear level.
The 215D actually sat on the top edges of the two side panels.
My GK 700RB-iv snuggled into the shelf on which the lower Berg is now seen.
With the stand inverted, the 215D sits 4 inches lower.
So, yeah, it looks like the overkill that it is for its current task.
No less than eight 1/4 inch lag screws per upright are appropriate for that weight,
with a 4X safety factor and anticipating a certain amount of twisting and wrestling of the cab on the stand.
Unfortunately, the elevated 215D caused a lot of my bass sound to project into the vocal mics in our jam room.
Now, it's just a cool place for those Bergies to chill.
And a great way to keep the gear off the damp grass for outdoor gigs.

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