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Genzler Amplification Club

#3,881
So am I the only one or...

Having the Genzler gear reminds me of when I used to be into hi-end audio. You couldn’t just add a very nice piece of equipment in or it would show (and often magnify) the limitations of your other gear or the source (ie: poorly produced music). The Genzler rig (MG800 and 12-3 cabs, now up to 3) really have helped with my technique, but made some of my basses sound pretty bad. I tried nickel strings (which I swore many years ago I hated) and that really bought out a lot of mids and detail that steel strings were lacking. All this is just me alone in my basement so far- just started working with some guys and have been cycling through gear to see what I want to go with, but next time I’m bringing the MG800 and 2x12-3’s (one str and one slt) because I am losing my mids and highs and clarity (they say I’ve sounded good, but I can’t hear anything above the middle of the E string). I should have just brought the Genzler stuff to begin with, but...

Anyways, another thing- anyone else have a bass with the Aguilar OBP-3 pre in it? I had 2, now just one, and the treble control does nothing with the BA cabs. It’s centered pretty high at 6.5khz, and sounds good through normal tweetered cabs, but I ordered a Bartolini 3 band to swap it with as it’s just not working for me. I normally like Aguilar stuff (and an amp and some cab of theirs in the roation behind the Genzler stuff), but to me this is another example of the Genzler stuff pulling back the curtain on something.
 
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Last weekend had my first outdoor test of the Genzler rig. MG800 and two 12-3 slt’s. All I can say is “wow”! Sound was pure and even throughout the frequency spectrum and deep as all get-out.
Ran a passive J, clean channel, just a touch of contour, bumped the lo/hi mids to about 1:30, rolled off bass to 11 o’clock. Gain at 11, master at noon+.
With no PA support in a fairly raucous classic rock band I had no problem being heard. ( so I was told by someone about 25 yards out in front)
I am now a complete convert to Genzler.
 
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It pains me to do this but I've come to the conclusion that I need to off load my BA410-3 and get another BA12-3 or two. :sorry:
I really like the BA410-3 but the profile is too low for me to be lifting it in and out of my SUV. I put wheels on it to help moving it around, but the handles are set so low on the cabinet and I need to not subject my back/knees to the deep bend lift required for the BA410-3.
My BA12-3 SLT is light enough and with the handle on the top doesn't present the lifting issue the BA410-3 does.
So, if there are those who are wanting to try a BA410-3 or trade a BA12-3 STR for a BA410-3 send me a PM.
 
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Nightman said:
It pains me to do this but I've come to the conclusion that I need to off load my BA410-3 and get another BA12-3 or two. :sorry:
I really like the BA410-3 but the profile is too low for me to be lifting it in and out of my SUV. I put wheels on it to help moving it around, but the handles are set so low on the cabinet and I need to not subject my back/knees to the deep bend lift required for the BA410-3.
My BA12-3 SLT is light enough and with the handle on the top doesn't present the lifting issue the BA410-3 does.
So, if there are those who are wanting to try a BA410-3 or trade a BA12-3 STR for a BA410-3 send me a PM.
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I totally get you, my man. My back and knees are good enough that I can lift it with no problems, but the handles are in a pretty bad spot. That’s my only complaint with this cab, well, that and no casters. I can live without the wheels, I have a killer cart. Them handles though...:eek:o_O
 
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Hey guys! I'm idly musing about the Bass Array 12-3's, as they look really cool. However, I'm in love with my shuttlemax 9.2, and don't think I could part with it under any circumstances. I've played through the Magellan before, and definitely prefer the Shuttlemax.

Has anybody tried running any of the bass array cabs with a Shuttlemax? What's it like, compared to the old Genz Benz cabs?
 
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Hey y'all. This is my first post in this thread after reading nearly all of it. Looking to obtain a MG head and Array cab in the near future. At first I was set on a MG800 and BA112-3 but I'm wondering now if I need that much. I've never used distortion so that feature is irrelevant at this point.
I primarily play at church in a somewhat boomy hall seating 350-400 bodies. Currently using their Ampeg BA210 V2 which I hate. (Been a GK guy for the past 20 yrs.) We do have a great FOH and the Ampeg line out sounds great out front, but like crap on stage. I've been able to tame it with a compressor and HPF.
My question is this; Will a MG350 and BA110-2, along with FOH do what I need? The band is loud drums, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, a couple of singers and sometimes keys.
Thanks for letting me ramble, but I need to relieve this GAS!
 
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Kevin Wolfe said:
Hey y'all. This is my first post in this thread after reading nearly all of it. Looking to obtain a MG head and Array cab in the near future. At first I was set on a MG800 and BA112-3 but I'm wondering now if I need that much. I've never used distortion so that feature is irrelevant at this point.
I primarily play at church in a somewhat boomy hall seating 350-400 bodies. Currently using their Ampeg BA210 V2 which I hate. (Been a GK guy for the past 20 yrs.) We do have a great FOH and the Ampeg line out sounds great out front, but like crap on stage. I've been able to tame it with a compressor and HPF.
My question is this; Will a MG350 and BA110-2, along with FOH do what I need? The band is loud drums, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, a couple of singers and sometimes keys.
Thanks for letting me ramble, but I need to relieve this GAS!
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I mean, it probably would do just fine, but going with the minimal options is rarely an effective treatment for GAS. Because, let's be honest, if you get the MG350 and BA110-2, you're just going to end up also owning the MG800 and a BA12-3 :D
 
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Discount Saint said:
I mean, it probably would do just fine, but going with the minimal options is rarely an effective treatment for GAS. Because, let's be honest, if you get the MG350 and BA110-2, you're just going to end up also owning the MG800 and a BA12-3 :D
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I know, right! I could always add another (or 2) BA110-2 and move up to the big dogs later. I'm trying to keep my office manager happy and I just bought my first new bass since 1980. She's gonna flip when she finds out I need yet another amp. I've got a small warehouse full of gear now but people like Jeff Genzler keep coming out with a better mousetrap and, well... You know!
 
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Kevin Wolfe said:
Hey y'all. This is my first post in this thread after reading nearly all of it. Looking to obtain a MG head and Array cab in the near future. At first I was set on a MG800 and BA112-3 but I'm wondering now if I need that much. I've never used distortion so that feature is irrelevant at this point.
I primarily play at church in a somewhat boomy hall seating 350-400 bodies. Currently using their Ampeg BA210 V2 which I hate. (Been a GK guy for the past 20 yrs.) We do have a great FOH and the Ampeg line out sounds great out front, but like crap on stage. I've been able to tame it with a compressor and HPF.
My question is this; Will a MG350 and BA110-2, along with FOH do what I need? The band is loud drums, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, a couple of singers and sometimes keys.
Thanks for letting me ramble, but I need to relieve this GAS!
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The "loud drummer" is the detail that makes me wonder. I would say with very, very, very little doubt that the 350 with two 10-2's would certainly be enough... and maybe the 350 with a single 12-3...

I have both cabs and both heads. The 10-2 is punchier than the 12-3 which might work better in a boomy room. I'd put the 350 and two 10-2's into consideration. Ends up about the same price or less than a single 12-3 and MG800...
 
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Kevin Wolfe said:
Thanks revroy. I had considered the 350/12-3 pairing myself. But on the other hand, I love me some punch. The drums aren’t overly loud but not soft by any means. He’s behind plexiglass with a mic’ed acoustic kit.
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The 350 with two 10-2's sounds to me like the direction... you could begin with a single cab and see whether that is adequate and if not, add a second cab. It is a pretty amazing little rig.
 
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Kevin Wolfe said:
Hey y'all. This is my first post in this thread after reading nearly all of it. Looking to obtain a MG head and Array cab in the near future. At first I was set on a MG800 and BA112-3 but I'm wondering now if I need that much. I've never used distortion so that feature is irrelevant at this point.
I primarily play at church in a somewhat boomy hall seating 350-400 bodies. Currently using their Ampeg BA210 V2 which I hate. (Been a GK guy for the past 20 yrs.) We do have a great FOH and the Ampeg line out sounds great out front, but like crap on stage. I've been able to tame it with a compressor and HPF.
My question is this; Will a MG350 and BA110-2, along with FOH do what I need? The band is loud drums, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, a couple of singers and sometimes keys.
Thanks for letting me ramble, but I need to relieve this GAS!
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I use an MG350 combo and it’s surprisngly loud. I played with no FOH for an outdoor jazz gig (vibes guitar drums) and was fine. If I did it a lot I’d add a 2nd cab but for the few gigs I use an ampmits fine, Amal and easy to carry.
 
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I’ll try to be less long winded than my last post, but it’s tough when this gear is so good! :hyper:

Sat in last night with the house band at a blues jam, brought the Genzler rig- MG800, an slt and an str 12-3 (and yes, I did remember to switxh the impedence switch back to 4/8 :D ), SLT on the bottom. This was it’s 2nd time out of the house, and I think I managed to hit every wall and doorway with the cabs (good thing they have those metal corners). Yes, I should get covers.

I wish I’d have placed it about 6-12 inches further back (it’s a tight space and I didn’t want to block the power outlet), but it sounded pretty good, especially after the first song when the drummer said “You COULD turn it up a little.” But when I went out in the audience to let the next few guys play, WOW! The other players all had passive 4’s (I had my Lull M5V, active with Nordy p/u and bart pre), but they really sounded good. One guy especially had a Fender P with the EMG GZR pickup, and man, did he cut through. He came up a few times after to tell me how great the rig was, and he was even looking at the Genzler site on his phone checking out the gear.

Had lots of compliments on the rig, from the bass players and other musicians too. And the load in/out was pretty easy too (gotta’ love this lightweight gear). I’ve read all the reviews and y’all’s raves about this stuff, but it was really just nice to experience it myself. I’ll take it to band practice next week as well and should be able to rave about it some more. Thanks @Jeff Genzler and crew for making such sweet gear that really just works (i had all the eq at noon and no contour). :bassist:
 
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