Genzler Amplification Club

[S-Bigbottom]

At first I was set on a MG800 and BA112-3 but I'm wondering now if I need that much. I've never used distortion so that feature is irrelevant at this point.
I primarily play at church in a somewhat boomy hall seating 350-400 bodies.

Since it is mostly for the Church the 350 will do fine, BUT...

The 800 has a bit more features and power that can come in handy in other situations as well as the Church gig.
The great thing about the 800 if you get one is that the Volume is usable at low volume, it does not jump from ok quite to blaring loud as other amps do. This makes it fantastic for practicing in the house or using it at a small gig as it will sound great at the low volumes, then when you need to put fear into the Band Leader you can.

Do not be swayed off the 800 because of the Drive you may never use because you do not like distortion and will never use it, as that was also my attitude about the Drive Channel. This Drive is different, set at 10-11:00 it gives just a little something that makes the notes cut through but it is still clean. I use it always no matter what now.

Ether one the DI is fantastic for the front of house on both. So good in fact that at Church now we are inears only so what do I use for my DI? The Magellan 800. Sent post with the Drive at 10:00 to get some yummy, a little Contour B all else flat.

 

[Kevin Wolfe]

Some very good points of advice Mr. Bottom. I'm also thinking of the feel of the 12-3 with my 5er's B string. I realize the 10-2 can hack it and I'm HPF'n at probably 40-50hz anyway. I also play the occasional Bluegrass gig on the UB too!

 

[Cazman]

out of curiosity, can you stack multiple slant 12-3's on top of eachother with them remaining stable? how about putting a mag 800 on top of that? I'm worried about stuff sliding off.

My rig... two 12-3 SLT’s stacked. MG 800 head. Stabliity not an issue

 

[symbolic_acts]

the drive is really not a distortion. Even at max gain, it doesn't go that crazy.

As stated before, just setting it to like 10 oclock basically just makes it sound like a more oldschool amp. I really dig it. For most rock/oldschool funk and stuff i keep it on the whole time. Jazz and other dainty stuff i turn it off

 

[BadExample]

Dainty bass, I dig it

 

[SteveBassJr]

I need to join this club.
I tried a bunch of different amps and the Genzler Magellan 350 won me over.
I would of got its big brother but I have another 700 watt amp and didnt want two.
I needed a good clean strong 350 amp for smaller gigs that didn't need that much headroom.
Im using an 4 ohm cab with it.
Anyone know if the BA cabs come in 4?
I would really like a small 10/2 .

 

[mrm56]

410-3 is 4 ohm the others are 8

 

[bebass]

I need to join this club.
I tried a bunch of different amps and the Genzler Magellan 350 won me over.
I would of got its big brother but I have another 700 watt amp and didnt want two.
I needed a good clean strong 350 amp for smaller gigs that didn't need that much headroom.
Im using an 4 ohm cab with it.
Anyone know if the BA cabs come in 4?
I would really like a small 10/2 .

The 10-2 bass array cabs are 8 ohms. So it is easy to add another cab. However, in general, don't think the the SPL change is drastic going from an 8 ohm cab to a 4ohm cab. Lots of factors including cab/driver efficiency that make a difference. Many people are reporting that the MG350 with the 10-2 speaker is quite loud for its size.

 

[SteveBassJr]

The 10-2 bass array cabs are 8 ohms. So it is easy to add another cab. However, in general, don't think the an 8 ohm cab to a 4ohm cab. Lots of factors including cab/driver efficiency that make a difference. Many people are reporting that the MG350 with the 10-2 speaker is

Right now im using am Eden 110 4 ohm cab. For those small room gigs. I like to get the full 350 watts out of the MG. Speaker is rated 300. Sounds good but im sure the 10-2 would sound way better.
I already have three 112 cabs and two 210'S so no way I could justify a 12-3. But I could always sell some away....

 

[Kevin Wolfe]

the drive is really not a distortion. Even at max gain, it doesn't go that crazy.

As stated before, just setting it to like 10 oclock basically just makes it sound like a more oldschool amp. I really dig it. For most rock/oldschool funk and stuff i keep it on the whole time. Jazz and other dainty stuff i turn it off

That's good information and I have been hearing that. Rock/oldschool funk and stuff is exactly my style!

 

[5StringPocket]

Right now im using am Eden 110 4 ohm cab. For those small room gigs. I like to get the full 350 watts out of the MG. Speaker is rated 300. Sounds good but im sure the 10-2 would sound way better.
I already have three 112 cabs and two 210'S so no way I could justify a 12-3. But I could always sell some away....View attachment 3151394

What’s nice about the 800 is not being concerned about headroom. 4 or 8 ohm cab makes no difference. Most small cabs are 8 ohm. The MG800 can drive them to their limit and still have enough to add a 2nd (or 3rd) cab if needed. Sensible use of the gain gives the same great tone at coffee house or large club volumes.

 

[Nightman]

Well, I got a solution to my BA410-3 lift problem, which was to install a strap handle (thanks Jeff!!) above one of the bar handles to aid me in the lift. Works great and it looks just fine, too!!

 

[davel66]

Slightly off topic but maybe not...

Needed a new storage solution for my amps and cabs. Having two Genzler rigs in active rotation was what drove the project. Made this shelf out of maple butcher block and cast iron pipe. I Custom cut to my desired dimensions and finished the maple with Waterlox. Nice finish, first time I had used it. Came out pretty good. Soon you wont see all that nice maple. It will be moved and loaded up with gear, the Genzler stuff first, front and center!

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• Sep 18, 2018
• diy genzler 350 genzler amplification shelf

Butcher block and cast iron pipe shelf I made for my jam room to hold a wall of bass & guitar...

 

[SteveBassJr]

Quick question: How do you fellows adjust your gain?
Turn it up (volume off) until it clips, back down a little bit, just so it barely clips At your hardest note?
Then adjust the volume to taste.
Any cool settings to share?
I have the MG350. I might flip my Ag700 for the MG 800.

 

[Wicked G]

Quick question: How do you fellows adjust your gain?
Turn it up (volume off) until it clips, back down a little bit, just so it barely clips At your hardest note?
Then adjust the volume to taste.
Any cool settings to share?
I have the MG350. I might flip my Ag700 for the MG 800.

I think you are talking about the Clean Volume knob as the Gain is actually part of the Drive on the Magellan 800. Yes, I raise the volume until it clips and then I back it down and use the Master to taste. Then I use the Drive channel for subtle grit or all out distortion.

 

[pbass6811]

Quick question: How do you fellows adjust your gain?
Turn it up (volume off) until it clips, back down a little bit, just so it barely clips At your hardest note?
Then adjust the volume to taste.
Any cool settings to share?
I have the MG350. I might flip my Ag700 for the MG 800.

I actually do it the opposite way. I have the master dimed, and I use the Clean volume to taste. Then I set the Drive channel to be at unity with the Clean. My basses can get pretty H/O, even for a 9v, so, I keep an eye on the clip light, but I've never seen it, I should probably make sure it works...LOL!

edit: I actually heard a crowd recorded cellphone video from last weekend, this rig just keeps on amazing me...

I can't embed the video, but we're playing at a new joint this weekend, so I'm gonna try to get some video of the gig.

 

[Cazman]

I actually do it the opposite way. I have the master dimed, and I use the Clean volume to taste. Then I set the Drive channel to be at unity with the Clean. My basses can get pretty H/O, even for a 9v, so, I keep an eye on the clip light, but I've never seen it, I should probably make sure it works...LOL!

edit: I actually heard a crowd recorded cellphone video from last weekend, this rig just keeps on amazing me...

I can't embed the video, but we're playing at a new joint this weekend, so I'm gonna try to get some video of the gig.

The sound we look for is all quite subjective, and I’m certain there is no definitive right or wrong, but I’d be curious how the engineers/developers approached the controls when designing their preferred sound. Any insight, Mr. Genzler?

 

[Holdsg]

I don't overthink it.
I turn up both until I get a tone and volume I like, and then leave it there.

 

[Loring]

The sound we look for is all quite subjective, and I’m certain there is no definitive right or wrong, but I’d be curious how the engineers/developers approached the controls when designing their preferred sound. Any insight, Mr. Genzler?

If you look at gain structure ...

You should pre amp up first then use master to get to volume. You don't necessarily have to hit clipping but preamp should be doing it's work first.
This is doubly true if you send post preamp to FOH. You don't want to be fiddling with pre levels to adjust stage volume.

 

[Cazman]

If you look at gain structure ...

You should pre amp up first then use master to get to volume. You don't necessarily have to hit clipping but preamp should be doing it's work first.
This is doubly true if you send post preamp to FOH. You don't want to be fiddling with pre levels to adjust stage volume.

Agree. That’s what I do currently. Just curious how “engineering” thinks.