Genzler Amplification Club

[bebass]

Couldn’t you just turn it down? That way you’d still get the bottom extension and similar volume overall...

I think the problem (IF there actually was one) was not SPL, but possibly the acoustic arena resonant modes enforcing the coupled cabs’s bass response. Becasue the same soundman didnt have a problem when I added volume to the single cab so as to hear on stage. I am very careful with my volume and try to never play too loud.

But man, I have seen some guitar players that take the cake concerning bass volume. I played with this one guy who simply got it in his head I was “drowning him out”. All the rest of the band said it was fine. He asked me to again turn down so I did. I cut the volume totally, no sound, but acted like I was playing all out. I asked him was that better and he said yes, a bit better but still too loud hahahaha. I quit playing with this character after that session.

 

[Loring]

Yep bin dare!

 

[SadowskySteve]

Yep bin dare!

Deet toe.

 

[LetItGrowTone]

BA15-3 SLT
1) Wow, lightweight. I would rather rank tone above every other consideration, and I do, but wow, such a relief. Easy one hand carry. Nice handles and handle placement too.

2) Tone review, short answer: my 2x other-brand ported 4x10s are outta here. It's a relief to have a decisive win for the new product.

The 15-3 has more 41Hz, judging from objects in my house vibrating (which is actually a bit scientific compared to just ears), and clearer. Not too surprising but nice to confirm it. But mids/highs are where the biggest difference is. [Digression: Before buying the BA15-3, in my imagination - in the worst part - I imagined that the 3"s might sound like the kind of tweeter in a bass cab that I would always leave off, just a little nicer. But no, I find the 3"s blended perfectly with the 15". You wouldn't know that it isn't a single super driver.]

The 4x10 sounds "thick" in comparison, and it isn't good; from the lows to the highs this 4x10 is as though muffled. I know that thickening and even muffling can sometimes be part of an iconic tone, but I think very few people would prefer these 4x10s. I hadn't noticed this until I had something to compare it to. *Part* of this might be due to the acoustic coupling and comb filtering, etc, consequences of a multi-driver box. But I think it's probably more than that.

After reading so many reviews I was already primed to use the word "smooth". But, yeah, the BA15-3 is smooth and "musical" and transparent from bottom to top. This clarity is exactly what I took a chance and paid for, and I got it. Thanks.

I had been thinking that if it were too dark I would also get a 2x10. But no, it isn't dark at all.

 

[Djadja]

BA15-3 SLT
1) Wow, lightweight. I would rather rank tone above every other consideration, and I do, but wow, such a relief. Easy one hand carry. Nice handles and handle placement too.

2) Tone review, short answer: my 2x other-brand ported 4x10s are outta here. It's a relief to have a decisive win for the new product.

The 15-3 has more 41Hz, judging from objects in my house vibrating (which is actually a bit scientific compared to just ears), and clearer. Not too surprising but nice to confirm it. But mids/highs are where the biggest difference is. [Digression: Before buying the BA15-3, in my imagination - in the worst part - I imagined that the 3"s might sound like the kind of tweeter in a bass cab that I would always leave off, just a little nicer. But no, I find the 3"s blended perfectly with the 15". You wouldn't know that it isn't a single super driver.]

The 4x10 sounds "thick" in comparison, and it isn't good; from the lows to the highs this 4x10 is as though muffled. I know that thickening and even muffling can sometimes be part of an iconic tone, but I think very few people would prefer these 4x10s. I hadn't noticed this until I had something to compare it to. *Part* of this might be due to the acoustic coupling and comb filtering, etc, consequences of a multi-driver box. But I think it's probably more than that.

After reading so many reviews I was already primed to use the word "smooth". But, yeah, the BA15-3 is smooth and "musical" and transparent from bottom to top. This clarity is exactly what I took a chance and paid for, and I got it. Thanks.

I had been thinking that if it were too dark I would also get a 2x10. But no, it isn't dark at all.

The BA line is a game changer up and down the line. I was an early adopter, buying without having had the opportunity to see/hear/play one in the wild beforehand. I know there are other great speakers out there and likely a few with which I would have been satisfied (I considered the Audiokinesis, Barefaced, and Fearful lines) but I have not questioned my choice once since I purchased my BA12-3.. It simply did everything I hoped and more - rich warm bass, vocal mids, smooth highs, and great dispersion in a lightweight cab. I bought the BA10-2 sometime later for home use and small gigs and it is equally cool. The only GAS I ever have for a cab is for another BA... and I don't need one.

 

[LetItGrowTone]

I really never want to hear those other-brand 4x10s ever again!

 

[SteveC]

The BA's are awesome, but I also like the MG112T-V cab on which my MG350 is mounted.

 

[Djadja]

The BA's are awesome, but I also like the MG112T-V cab on which my MG350 is mounted.

I have no doubt Steve

 

[S-Bigbottom]

2) Tone review, short answer: my 2x other-brand ported 4x10s are outta here. It's a relief to have a decisive win for the new product.

I really never want to hear those other-brand 4x10s ever again!

We need pictures.

 

[dwellers]

BA15-3 SLT
1) Wow, lightweight. I would rather rank tone above every other consideration, and I do, but wow, such a relief. Easy one hand carry. Nice handles and handle placement too.

2) Tone review, short answer: my 2x other-brand ported 4x10s are outta here. It's a relief to have a decisive win for the new product.

The 15-3 has more 41Hz, judging from objects in my house vibrating (which is actually a bit scientific compared to just ears), and clearer. Not too surprising but nice to confirm it. But mids/highs are where the biggest difference is. [Digression: Before buying the BA15-3, in my imagination - in the worst part - I imagined that the 3"s might sound like the kind of tweeter in a bass cab that I would always leave off, just a little nicer. But no, I find the 3"s blended perfectly with the 15". You wouldn't know that it isn't a single super driver.]

The 4x10 sounds "thick" in comparison, and it isn't good; from the lows to the highs this 4x10 is as though muffled. I know that thickening and even muffling can sometimes be part of an iconic tone, but I think very few people would prefer these 4x10s. I hadn't noticed this until I had something to compare it to. *Part* of this might be due to the acoustic coupling and comb filtering, etc, consequences of a multi-driver box. But I think it's probably more than that.

After reading so many reviews I was already primed to use the word "smooth". But, yeah, the BA15-3 is smooth and "musical" and transparent from bottom to top. This clarity is exactly what I took a chance and paid for, and I got it. Thanks.

I had been thinking that if it were too dark I would also get a 2x10. But no, it isn't dark at all.

Can you share the logo on those other 410s?

 

[dwellers]

Oh, got my 800 drive channel pedal today. Really surprising heft. Nice size too. No cable (no surprise) so i assume it just uses any old T/S 1/4" cable. Mine is number 24. I don't think I will put it in my overly crowded signature unless we start a Genzler pedal club!

 

[SLPimp]

I have no doubt Steve

Definitely great cabs. If Genzler made an MG110, I'd have stuck with them for cabs. Hoping they come out with an ultralite MG210 at some point, but I know the emphasis is on the BA cabs, which are more game changing.

 

[SteveC]

Definitely great cabs. If Genzler made an MG110, I'd have stuck with them for cabs. Hoping they come out with an ultralite MG210 at some point, but I know the emphasis is on the BA cabs, which are more game changing.

I was hoping for a vertical 210 back in the day as well. I just wanted something more vertical (in a single cab) than all the BA stuff that seemed more horizontal. The 112 is what came out and it is an awesome cab. I'd still entertain an MG210T-V cab, but the 12 really is awesome.

 

[LetItGrowTone]

Can you share the logo on those other 410s?

Often regret negative posts, but as a public service: (Guitar Center) "Acoustic" B410C. Bought used, very inexpensive.

 

[dwellers]

Often regret negative posts, but as a public service: (Guitar Center) "Acoustic" B410C. Bought used, very inexpensive.

Appreciate it. I've found that the BA15 and BA210 is a magical combination with extension and fullness way beyond cab size. I'm sure there are lots of good products out there but I'm so happy with the cabs, amp and Jeff's customer service, looking elsewhere is pretty pointless.

 

[Joeykun]

I don't think I will put it in my overly crowded signature unless we start a Genzler pedal club!

Im in!

 

[LetItGrowTone]

We need pictures.

Too jealous or something to provide a picture of my favorite bass to its club.
Maybe same here.
About membership: I already paid the dues that count!

 

[SteveC]

Appreciate it. I've found that the BA15 and BA210 is a magical combination with extension and fullness way beyond cab size. I'm sure there are lots of good products out there but I'm so happy with the cabs, amp and Jeff's customer service, looking elsewhere is pretty pointless.

Right. I have flirted with other builders, but I have been using Jeff's stuff for decades (starting with Genz Benz) and between sound, value, durability and CS, I don't know why I'd change. I mean, when I was debating my rig he secretly told me about a new cab (the MG112T-V) and sent me one to try. He called me on a Saturday morning to talk about a buzz issue. I mead, that just doesn't happen. The only thing missing from the line up is maybe a pedal board friendly version of the MG350/MG800. The EQ and DI (one of the best onboard DI's out there IMHO) in a pedal form would be pretty sweet.

 

[SLPimp]

Right. I have flirted with other builders, but I have been using Jeff's stuff for decades (starting with Genz Benz) and between sound, value, durability and CS, I don't know why I'd change. I mean, when I was debating my rig he secretly told me about a new cab (the MG112T-V) and sent me one to try. He called me on a Saturday morning to talk about a buzz issue. I mead, that just doesn't happen. The only thing missing from the line up is maybe a pedal board friendly version of the MG350/MG800. The EQ and DI (one of the best onboard DI's out there IMHO) in a pedal form would be pretty sweet.

Same here. Had a rattle on a BA 10-2. Jeff called me and then sent me a whole new driver. Don't have the cab, but still use Genzler heads. Not gonna get another cab for awhile and hope for that vertical MG 210...

 

[jjk2007]

BA15-3 SLT
1) Wow, lightweight. I would rather rank tone above every other consideration, and I do, but wow, such a relief. Easy one hand carry. Nice handles and handle placement too.

2) Tone review, short answer: my 2x other-brand ported 4x10s are outta here. It's a relief to have a decisive win for the new product.

The 15-3 has more 41Hz, judging from objects in my house vibrating (which is actually a bit scientific compared to just ears), and clearer. Not too surprising but nice to confirm it. But mids/highs are where the biggest difference is. [Digression: Before buying the BA15-3, in my imagination - in the worst part - I imagined that the 3"s might sound like the kind of tweeter in a bass cab that I would always leave off, just a little nicer. But no, I find the 3"s blended perfectly with the 15". You wouldn't know that it isn't a single super driver.]

The 4x10 sounds "thick" in comparison, and it isn't good; from the lows to the highs this 4x10 is as though muffled. I know that thickening and even muffling can sometimes be part of an iconic tone, but I think very few people would prefer these 4x10s. I hadn't noticed this until I had something to compare it to. *Part* of this might be due to the acoustic coupling and comb filtering, etc, consequences of a multi-driver box. But I think it's probably more than that.

After reading so many reviews I was already primed to use the word "smooth". But, yeah, the BA15-3 is smooth and "musical" and transparent from bottom to top. This clarity is exactly what I took a chance and paid for, and I got it. Thanks.

I had been thinking that if it were too dark I would also get a 2x10. But no, it isn't dark at all.

Just wait until you get out on a gig with that cab. You’ll be amazed when you start wondering around the stage and can still hear your bass......