Genzler Amplification Club

[Nuage420]

I love 1st world problems. Having to be bothered to move my hand an extra 3inches to unplug the cab when I plug in my phones.

 

[RColie]

I can see the logic in this design. If the speakers are not disconnected when you plug in the headphones, you have the option of using both simultaneously. If the speakers are disconnected when headphones are used that option is removed. I don't know how useful this is to players but there it is...

Bob

 

[FeltTipPen]

Quick question that I haven't been able to find an easy answer to - when headphones are plugged into the rear of an MG350 head, does it automatically disable the the output to the speaker or does the speaker need to be manually unplugged?

Asking for a 'friend' who assumed the former when purchasing and is experiencing the latter and finding it a real pain.

Thx

I just unplug my speakers every time I practice with headphones and as others have said, it doesn't mute the speaker.

 

[Loring]

OK, so I have a question for the group, I'm really interested in 2 cabs in particular (hoping I'll be in a buying position this summer) I'll be using a Magellan 800, with more than a few effects, mostly various drives/fuzzes. I'm mostly playing rock, but I'd like something that can cover more bases if needed.

I'm currently running the Magellan on top of my GK Neo412, and I'm keeping this cab for the very rare occurrence that I land on a huge stage, this combo is SILLY loud and sounds fantastic, but....It's a LOT of rig for most of my gigs.

The Cabs I'm looking at:
Nu Classic 212T
Magellan 212T

I know some of the differences:

Neo drivers in the Magellan vs Ferrite/Ceramic drivers in the Nu Classic.
Baltic Birch in the Magellan vs Poplar in the Nu Classic
Triangular Ports in the Magellan vs more traditional? ports in the Nu Classic
33-14KHz Freq. response in the Magellan vs 45-14KHz in the Nu Classic

There are obviously many more differences, but these 4 in particular seemed like they could make the different "personalities" between these two cabs more obvious.

Thoughts on which is better suited to my particular needs?

If you are running distortion and fuzz - you may prefer the BA cabs as they have paper mid/tweeters instead of horns so you get the top end without the harshness (though Genzler Horns are pretty freakin' good).

If you have an opportunity to try or listen to them, it may be worth your while.

 

[Loring]

Yes, this exactly. I should have been more concise in my post. In an ideal world, I'd just plug in headphones and cabs would go silent automatically and I wouldn't have to remove both cab speakON connectors. My MG350 doesn't do this, trying to find out if it's supposed to or not.

What I do is daisy chain my cabs so there is only one cable at the head. When I use my headphones I just unlock the speakon and twist - no need to fully unplug (thanks @Jeff Genzler for that tip). I leave my phones plugged in at home so all I'm doing is twisting one way or the other depending on the time of day or if someone is on a zoom call...

 

[redlizard]

What I do is daisy chain my cabs so there is only one cable at the head. When I use my headphones I just unlock the speakon and twist - no need to fully unplug (thanks @Jeff Genzler for that tip). I leave my phones plugged in at home so all I'm doing is twisting one way or the other depending on the time of day or if someone is on a zoom call...

Thanks for the tip, guess I'll be doing the same with the daisy chaining. Unlike some wise-a$$ above, my head isn't situated with the easiest of access to the rear - will have to change that.

 

[Djadja]

25220768[/URL], member: 103810"]I can see the logic in this design. If the speakers are not disconnected when you plug in the headphones, you have the option of using both simultaneously. If the speakers are disconnected when headphones are used that option is removed. I don't know how useful this is to players but there it is...

Bob

As @Holdsg mentioned, I too remember Jeff having addressed this earlier.

I *think* that it had something to do with the amount signal involved and that putting a disconnect on the headphone jack with the amount of signal going to the speaker jacks is very difficult/expensive/impossible. It wasn’t a simple “let’s do it this way” decision.

I also remember that he observed that it is only only the smallest, lowest quality amps that plugging in a pair of headphones disconnects the speakers.

 

[redlizard]

As @Holdsg mentioned, I too remember Jeff having addressed this earlier.

I *think* that it had something to do with the amount signal involved and that putting a disconnect on the headphone jack with the amount of signal going to the speaker jacks is very difficult/expensive/impossible. It wasn’t a simple “let’s do it this way” decision.

I also remember that he observed that it is only only the smallest, lowest quality amps that plugging in a pair of headphones disconnects the speakers.

My only prior experience with this was with a Yamaha THR10. It's surprisingly loud and a quality build, but is a desktop modeler driving 3" speakers and not a true instrument amp which is probably why they could do it. I mistakenly assumed all recent amps worked the same.

FWIW, I would pay a little extra for a three way switch to toggle between speakers/phones/both.

Anyway, thanks to all for educating me.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Hi all, it is correct that when using headphones the speakers do not disconnect. It is because of the power level of this amp and it would require special switching, not a switching headphone jack. One issue with these smaller amps is that there is just not enough real estate for all the features you might want to include. You can just twist the speakon connection to disconnect the signal an not remove the plug.
I hope this is helpful.

 

[Redd Hatt]

I recently got the Magellan 350 10 combo and had a lot of time to play today and get intimate with the controls. My wife, still befuddled by the sound coming out of what her eyes say is a 'small' amp, comes in at one point and sees me sitting way forward and down in my chair so I could be low enough to see the controls. She said 'Hey, do they make some kind of riser for your amp so you could see it easier?'

I told her, 'Yes. Yes, as a matter of fact they do. Do you think it would be better 10 inches higher or 12?'

(Didn't work.....)

 

[UglyBuzzard]

True. Just disconnect the speakers and headphones work great. Tone is incredible...

 

[SteveC]

I recently got the Magellan 350 10 combo and had a lot of time to play today and get intimate with the controls. My wife, still befuddled by the sound coming out of what her eyes say is a 'small' amp, comes in at one point and sees me sitting way forward and down in my chair so I could be low enough to see the controls. She said 'Hey, do they make some kind of riser for your amp so you could see it easier?'

I told her, 'Yes. Yes, as a matter of fact they do. Do you think it would be better 10 inches higher or 12?'

(Didn't work.....)

I debated getting another 10 for my combo. I instead went with the 12T-V and couldn’t be happier. I think it’s actually easier to move the “larger” rig around. It sounds amazing and is still a one hand/trip carry.

 

[berman3313]

I debated getting another 10 for my combo. I instead went with the 12T-V and couldn’t be happier. I think it’s actually easier to move the “larger” rig around. It sounds amazing and is still a one hand/trip carry.

And there are those of us who think a 350 w two of the 12T-Vs, would be “oh, so sneaky!” And awesome!

 

[SteveC]

And there are those of us who think a 350 w two of the 12T-Vs, would be “oh, so sneaky!” And awesome!

I wish I used my amp more and needed more sound than the single cab as they look so cool stacked.

 

[Erik Turkman]

I recently got the Magellan 350 10 combo and had a lot of time to play today and get intimate with the controls. My wife, still befuddled by the sound coming out of what her eyes say is a 'small' amp, comes in at one point and sees me sitting way forward and down in my chair so I could be low enough to see the controls. She said 'Hey, do they make some kind of riser for your amp so you could see it easier?'

I told her, 'Yes. Yes, as a matter of fact they do. Do you think it would be better 10 inches higher or 12?'

(Didn't work.....)

Whether working with the BA10 combo or the 12T-V combo, my experience shows that a 12” riser works best.

 

[Basselink]

Does anyone who ordered one or more of the NCs have a delivery date yet? I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them.

 

[Erik Turkman]

OK, so I have a question for the group, I'm really interested in 2 cabs in particular (hoping I'll be in a buying position this summer) I'll be using a Magellan 800, with more than a few effects, mostly various drives/fuzzes. I'm mostly playing rock, but I'd like something that can cover more bases if needed.

I'm currently running the Magellan on top of my GK Neo412, and I'm keeping this cab for the very rare occurrence that I land on a huge stage, this combo is SILLY loud and sounds fantastic, but....It's a LOT of rig for most of my gigs.

The Cabs I'm looking at:
Nu Classic 212T
Magellan 212T

I know some of the differences:

Neo drivers in the Magellan vs Ferrite/Ceramic drivers in the Nu Classic.
Baltic Birch in the Magellan vs Poplar in the Nu Classic
Triangular Ports in the Magellan vs more traditional? ports in the Nu Classic
33-14KHz Freq. response in the Magellan vs 45-14KHz in the Nu Classic

There are obviously many more differences, but these 4 in particular seemed like they could make the different "personalities" between these two cabs more obvious.

Thoughts on which is better suited to my particular needs?

While this group is usually a pretty helpful bunch, the Nu Classic cabs have only recently been announced and are not yet circulating in the wild, so only those who were part of the test group will have any experience with them. It might be a little while before anyone can offer insight based on real world experience in comparing the different 212T cabs. I’m sure opinions will be posted once the Nu Classic cabs have reached end users.

 

[Joeykun]

My rig for the weekend! Magellan 800 > BA410-3 / BA210-3 SLT (as monitor) My pedalboard, midi pedals and Keyboard rack!

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Does anyone who ordered one or more of the NCs have a delivery date yet? I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them.

We're about 2 weeks out from shipping initial cabs on order.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

OK, so I have a question for the group, I'm really interested in 2 cabs in particular (hoping I'll be in a buying position this summer) I'll be using a Magellan 800, with more than a few effects, mostly various drives/fuzzes. I'm mostly playing rock, but I'd like something that can cover more bases if needed.

I'm currently running the Magellan on top of my GK Neo412, and I'm keeping this cab for the very rare occurrence that I land on a huge stage, this combo is SILLY loud and sounds fantastic, but....It's a LOT of rig for most of my gigs.

The Cabs I'm looking at:
Nu Classic 212T
Magellan 212T

I know some of the differences:

Neo drivers in the Magellan vs Ferrite/Ceramic drivers in the Nu Classic.
Baltic Birch in the Magellan vs Poplar in the Nu Classic
Triangular Ports in the Magellan vs more traditional? ports in the Nu Classic
33-14KHz Freq. response in the Magellan vs 45-14KHz in the Nu Classic

There are obviously many more differences, but these 4 in particular seemed like they could make the different "personalities" between these two cabs more obvious.

Thoughts on which is better suited to my particular needs?

Sorry I missed this. Between these 2 cabs listed the MG-212T is doing to be the more aggressive cab with the Neo drivers, especially on the mids. You may like that. The NC cabs will be smoother in the mids, with very deep, tight LF. They both use the same tweeter. MG cabs are more efficient, but the NC have a more organic, earthy tone.
Not to complicate the issue but the Bass Array cabs really reproduce effect pedals and distortion like no other cabs.
If traditional 2×12" cabs are your choice and u have a little time, there are a few TB users that have the NC cabs on order we will he shipping by mid May. More feedback to follow after then.
Hope this is a little helpful.